GM Route advice

[hongman]

Well, the GM will be one of the (if not the) longest distances I would have done, and being not very well travelled except locally, I am after some advice.

I know its mostly Mway's, and as much as I'd like scratch round some twisties, I'd like to get there before Xmas next year and not get lost, so its a tradeoff I'm going to have to make.

Planning on an leaving Thursday afternoon, overnight stay at Scotch Corner, rest of the way on Friday.

GoogleMaps:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=harlow&daddr=Richmond+DL10+5EQ+to:FK21+8TY&hl=en&geocode=Fc8LFgMd1bIBACnFlZzqmJDYRzGQFr-OusXrvg%3BFWF9PgMdfI3m_ylx3lZIi59-SDEWn0gqAQdkSQ%3BFe0GXgMdUiS__ynffrjHKMCISDHA6torX SBA6Q&mra=ls&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=14.149238,39.506836&ie=UTF8&z=6

Just wondering if any part of the route should be avoided at all costs, barring incidents on the day (massive roadworks, traffic jam hot spot, speed camera hot spots, etc)

Any advice welcome.

Prolly be same on the way back.

[grh1904]

Made a change to your route, instead of going over the really boring A66 from Scotch Corner, follow the A1(m) north for a couple of miles and come off onto the A68, follow the A68 until the roundabout with the A689 and follow this to Alston, following the A689 onto Brampton - if this route doesn't put a smile 9feet wide acros your face then you have my permission to shoot me............................


http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=harlow&daddr=Richmond+DL10+5EQ+to:FK21+8TY&hl=en&geocode=Fc8LFgMd1bIBACnFlZzqmJDYRzGQFr-OusXrvg%3BFWF9PgMdfI3m_ylx3lZIi59-SDEWn0gqAQdkSQ%3BFe0GXgMdUiS__ynffrjHKMCISDHA6torX SBA6Q&mra=ls&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=14.149238,39.506836&ie=UTF8&z=6

[grh1904]

Damn, my change to the route in your linky still only comes up with your route, I'll have another go, but the A66 is usually busy & a bit boring........................

[Quedos]

I'm sad I like the A66 on the bike proll because I normally go over it in the car

Make sure you wave to me as you approach Old Inns Services on the A80 - or stop off for tea - I'm only up the hill!!

[hongman]

Cheers grh, look forward to a revised route :)

Q - Unless I program it into the GPS I'll only realised I've missed you when I arrive at the destination :D

[Bibio]

this would be my preferred route:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=harlow&daddr=Richmond+DL10+5EQ+to:54.79589,-1.85584+to:55.16682,-2.15851+to:55.51454,-2.846+to:56.22758,-3.69386+to:FK21+8TY&geocode=Fc8LFgMd1bIBACnFlZzqmJDYRzGQFr-OusXrvg%3BFWF9PgMdfI3m_ylx3lZIi59-SDEWn0gqAQdkSQ%3BFXIeRAMdoK7j_ymFvnKuONN9SDGQay_Nn vkMEw%3BFWTHSQMdUhDf_yktIjKrH-t9SDExpRFRN9EPEw%3BFawVTwMd0JLU_ym5utLZVoaHSDGxCSD iGWgMEw%3BFfz2WQMd3KLH_ylxHbg__YGISDGR8IHcGWgMEw%3 BFe0GXgMdUiS__ynffrjHKMCISDHA6torXSBA6Q&hl=en&mra=dvme&mrsp=5&sz=9&via=2,3,4,5&sll=56.154729,-2.8125&sspn=1.118221,3.56781&ie=UTF8&ll=55.587659,-2.91687&spn=2.269418,7.13562&z=8

what ever you do don't take the A68 or the A1 after the border. if i know what sorta time you are planning on arriving in kilt land and where i could be tempted to come and get you and give you some company.

take lots of breaks on the way up the motorway from down south. you are in no hurry so make a day of it, don't go up with the attitude that 'i just have to get there'. even take time out from the MW to go see some sights, this will relieve some of the tediousness of the journey. you have all day so use it.

[hongman]

Thanks bib.

Where in kiltland officially constitutes me arriving in kiltland? :) I'll do my best to let you know the day before or on the day depending on what time I leave.

I tend to ride and drive with a "I just need to get there" attitude, I find if I stop off for no other reason than to take a break I get bored within 5 mins and just go again.

Having said that, in the car its comfy...I'm sure my **** will be screaming at me to have a rest after a few hundred :D

[Bibio]

well you see there is an invisible line roughly around the area of the river tweed marked with signage of welcome. from there on you will find that everything gets much more relaxed and nice pretty scenery. from this point onwards you must show your passport and bribe the control officer with some sort of alcoholic beverage to gain access to this splendid domain. the said officer would of course be myself :-)

[hongman]

I expect you waiting for me at the border if I do come solo :D

Alcoholic beverage would depend on how much space I have left :D

[Bibio]

wasonly pulling yer leg about the bevvy m8. i don't really drink.

but yes i will meet you at the border if you wish :-)

[hongman]

Oh crap. Was hoping for an easy way to repay you for some other help you've given me. I guess I'll have to find something else!

[hongman]

PM me your number so I can send you dirty pics. thx

[Bibio]

now that's an offer i cant refuse lol

now whats my number again lol.

[Quedos]

Bibio not drinking!! Hmmm

programme into your Sat nav then!!! No excuses

Bib the last time I saw it the sign was only half and the bottom half at that!!

[markc123]

Quite possibly be starting off on the Friday Morning from Harrogate doing close tot he same route, so might see you on the way :-)

[hongman]

Q - PM me details :D Get the kettle on!
Marc - I'm just going to wave frantically at every SV I see on the way there, so if you see such a thing you knows its probably me!

[Bibio]

Bibio not drinking!! Hmmm



don't worry sweet cheeks i'll be drinking but i wont be getting completely sloshed. i'll be driving the next day and i like my licence toooo much to even take any sort of risk.

[Bri w]

Hate you all!

I'm missing this year's... in Portugal on hols. Had a great time last year and well p!$$ed I'm missing this.

[Bibio]

simples don't go to Portugal you know you hate the place and the food and the sunshine. tell you what since it will be such a crap holiday i'll swap.

[-Ralph-]

I tend to ride and drive with a "I just need to get there" attitude, I find if I stop off for no other reason than to take a break I get bored within 5 mins and just go again

Don't! I'm in f***ing agony 'cos I took that attitude on a 320 mile trip home from Belfast two weeks ago. There's no improvement and I've decided tomorrow I'm going to have to see a doctor about it (it's not often you get me in front of a doctor).

I thought my helmet was to blame, but the people in this thread are probably right, it's my stubborness, not my helmet.

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=166894

I have the GM in a few weeks, and a trip to Portugal by bike in August, I'm now worried that this shoulder problem is going to affect them both! I've certainly not been fit to ride a bike in the last two weeks.

[-Ralph-]

PS: I have ridden Birmingham to Scotland twice, both staying off the motorways and taking the scenic route. It takes about 12 hours. Doing it from London and having an overnight stop at Scotch corner, you could take the scenic route easily if that's what took your fancy.

[hongman]

Read your thread, point taken...don't wanna be in pain for the rideout in particular after travelling all that way!

[hongman]

12 hours is insane! Longest iv been on a bike non stop
Was the AR (although I was real fresh then, and sporting a wrist injury).

Well see how I feel on the day. I'll try my best not to rush!

[-Ralph-]

12 hours is insane! Longest iv been on a bike non stop
Was the AR (although I was real fresh then, and sporting a wrist injury).

Well see how I feel on the day. I'll try my best not to rush!

That included stops mind you. Probably 9 hours actual riding time.

I actually find 12 hours of A roads, less tiring (and less painful) than 6 hours on a motorway.

Motorways are an endurance slog, sitting on my bike riding A roads is what I do for pleasure, and I can do it all day long.

[MisterTommyH]

Ralph, what route did you take?

I just did the M74/6 all the way from Abington to here and don't fancy it again so soon.

[-Ralph-]

Ralph, what route did you take?

I just did the M74/6 all the way from Abington to here and don't fancy it again so soon.

Where in Staffs are you?

[MisterTommyH]

Where in Staffs are you?

Cannock

[Milky Bar Kid]

Yeh, I have done A74/M6/M4/M5 from Gretna allllllll the way to Chippenham and then back....it's a slog and a half. GG had to lift my leg over the panniers on the bike because all my muscles had seized then I had fallen asleep within about ten minutes of sitting down!

[Lozzo]

Jeez, you people need to buy a Kawasaki Versys - 500 miles in a day, quick shower then walk into town to find a restaurant and bar, get food and a couple of local bevvies then walk back to hotel, sleep then do the same the next day and the next day. No numb bum, no tiredness.

[MisterTommyH]

Jeez, you people need to buy a Kawasaki Versys - 500 miles in a day, quick shower then walk into town to find a restaurant and bar, get food and a couple of local bevvies then walk back to hotel, sleep then do the same the next day and the next day. No numb bum, no tiredness.

Depends on the kind of roads for me. Had no problem doing 250-300, 3 or 4 days on the run (bevvies included), but 200 on m-way bored me and made me ache.

[Quedos]

That included stops mind you. Probably 9 hours actual riding time.

I actually find 12 hours of A roads, less tiring (and less painful) than 6 hours on a motorway.

.


Totally agree with you I was motorway all the way back from Hovis's funeral. One stop for fuel then pee stop at Tebay. Its endurance all right

[carelesschucca]

Jeez, you people need to buy a Kawasaki Versys - 500 miles in a day, quick shower then walk into town to find a restaurant and bar, get food and a couple of local bevvies then walk back to hotel, sleep then do the same the next day and the next day. No numb bum, no tiredness.
just the boredom of riding a boring ugly bike ;)

go the A road route its way more fun..

[-Ralph-]

Cannock

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=killin&daddr=55.87139,-3.68505+to:55.6468278,-3.4295616+to:55.0455,-3.48408+to:54.98204,-2.89545+to:54.82845,-2.46316+to:54.46606,-2.92481+to:54.306781,-2.2072919+to:54.08382,-2.2763+to:53.41078,-1.95132+to:52.91393,-1.7606+to:cannock&hl=en&geocode=FRGhXQMdlRy-_ynJcMdUYJWISDGGRyvLOhCjZg%3BFZ6HVAMdRsXH_ym3nNKQ0 XWISDFg7EjhGWgMEw%3BFWsaUQMdR6vL_ylR17EO4uSHSDEA0U LhGWgMEw%3BFXztRwMdUNbK_ymDNJWtHTV9SDGQ9R3hGWgMEw% 3BFZj1RgMdptHT_ymZCKOTCBF9SDEwbiDNnvkMEw%3BFaKdRAM dSGra_yk16wyeFax9SDHwSSfNnvkMEw%3BFQwWPwMd9l7T_ylp Cd7u5-t8SDFRiA1cN9EPEw%3BFd2nPAMdxVHe_yktjRbiGWx8SDGBTfu 2IuOFww%3BFexAOQMdNETd_ynLHx_vx3d8SDGA3RPSnvkMEw%3 BFdz7LgMdqDni_ym31F_Xgct7SDEhDJK9qBwOEw%3BFQpnJwMd qCLl_ykrFEmDTRp6SDGwxA64qBwOEw%3BFfr0IwMdHwrh_ykJb SH6AZ5wSDF-LY5YvaKihQ&mra=dpe&mrsp=10&sz=9&via=1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10&sll=53.077528,-1.83197&sspn=1.275419,2.469177&ie=UTF8&ll=54.406143,-2.48291&spn=4.943969,9.876709&z=7

[Quedos]

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=killin&daddr=55.87139,-3.68505+to:55.6468278,-3.4295616+to:55.0455,-3.48408+to:54.98204,-2.89545+to:54.82845,-2.46316+to:54.46606,-2.92481+to:54.306781,-2.2072919+to:54.08382,-2.2763+to:53.41078,-1.95132+to:52.91393,-1.7606+to:cannock&hl=en&geocode=FRGhXQMdlRy-_ynJcMdUYJWISDGGRyvLOhCjZg%3BFZ6HVAMdRsXH_ym3nNKQ0 XWISDFg7EjhGWgMEw%3BFWsaUQMdR6vL_ylR17EO4uSHSDEA0U LhGWgMEw%3BFXztRwMdUNbK_ymDNJWtHTV9SDGQ9R3hGWgMEw% 3BFZj1RgMdptHT_ymZCKOTCBF9SDEwbiDNnvkMEw%3BFaKdRAM dSGra_yk16wyeFax9SDHwSSfNnvkMEw%3BFQwWPwMd9l7T_ylp Cd7u5-t8SDFRiA1cN9EPEw%3BFd2nPAMdxVHe_yktjRbiGWx8SDGBTfu 2IuOFww%3BFexAOQMdNETd_ynLHx_vx3d8SDGA3RPSnvkMEw%3 BFdz7LgMdqDni_ym31F_Xgct7SDEhDJK9qBwOEw%3BFQpnJwMd qCLl_ykrFEmDTRp6SDGwxA64qBwOEw%3BFfr0IwMdHwrh_ykJb SH6AZ5wSDF-LY5YvaKihQ&mra=dpe&mrsp=10&sz=9&via=1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10&sll=53.077528,-1.83197&sspn=1.275419,2.469177&ie=UTF8&ll=54.406143,-2.48291&spn=4.943969,9.876709&z=7


Your are a wee

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ypalM7eSBEQ/SwE9Y0sV4zI/AAAAAAAABSY/cL7rXKFggoo/s1600/smiley-star-clipart.gif

[MisterTommyH]

Even included the road over Blithfield! Cheeers.

[yorkie_chris]

Jeez, you people need to buy a Kawasaki Versys - 500 miles in a day, quick shower then walk into town to find a restaurant and bar, get food and a couple of local bevvies then walk back to hotel, sleep then do the same the next day and the next day. No numb bum, no tiredness.

I don't think they've all quite lost the will to live yet :-P
They need to MTFU and open throttle.

[markc123]

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=killin&daddr=55.4808919,-2.8218461+to:55.16854,-2.16216+to:55.01751,-2.14882+to:54.77841,-2.26118+to:54.30943,-1.82875+to:54.14369,-1.51402+to:Harrogate&geocode=FRGhXQMdlRy-_ynJcMdUYJWISDGGRyvLOhCjZg%3BFTuSTgMdKvHU_ym3N8_CD IeHSDEwQkPhGWgMEw%3BFRzOSQMdEALf_ymxw0mfI-t9SDGAPWfXnvkMEw%3BFSaARwMdLDbf_ykZYJ_VR8d9SDFxGUH NnvkMEw%3BFSraQwMdRH_d_ynfKx86X7N9SDFQ4eXXnvkMEw%3 BFTayPAMdchjk_ymxtKrLuBt8SDGw3PPXnvkMEw%3BFcoqOgMd 3OXo_ynloYGuy61-SDHwS2fXnvkMEw%3BFdfUNwMd2IPo_ykBvXVxI055SDH_pN6q-4TAAw&hl=en&mra=dpe&mrsp=3&sz=9&via=1,2,3,4,5,6&sll=54.965002,-1.870422&sspn=1.534194,4.22699&ie=UTF8&ll=55.297884,-1.104126&spn=3.043143,8.453979&z=8

Is what I have planned so far, helps to start a bit further north ;-)

[yorkie_chris]

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=killin&daddr=55.4808919,-2.8218461+to:55.16854,-2.16216+to:55.01751,-2.14882+to:54.77841,-2.26118+to:54.30943,-1.82875+to:54.14369,-1.51402+to:Harrogate&geocode=FRGhXQMdlRy-_ynJcMdUYJWISDGGRyvLOhCjZg%3BFTuSTgMdKvHU_ym3N8_CD IeHSDEwQkPhGWgMEw%3BFRzOSQMdEALf_ymxw0mfI-t9SDGAPWfXnvkMEw%3BFSaARwMdLDbf_ykZYJ_VR8d9SDFxGUH NnvkMEw%3BFSraQwMdRH_d_ynfKx86X7N9SDFQ4eXXnvkMEw%3 BFTayPAMdchjk_ymxtKrLuBt8SDGw3PPXnvkMEw%3BFcoqOgMd 3OXo_ynloYGuy61-SDHwS2fXnvkMEw%3BFdfUNwMd2IPo_ykBvXVxI055SDH_pN6q-4TAAw&hl=en&mra=dpe&mrsp=3&sz=9&via=1,2,3,4,5,6&sll=54.965002,-1.870422&sspn=1.534194,4.22699&ie=UTF8&ll=55.297884,-1.104126&spn=3.043143,8.453979&z=8

Is what I have planned so far, helps to start a bit further north ;-)


#shamelessly stolen# YOINK

[hongman]

That route looks interesting :D

Shame my GPS doesnt import googlemaps, will need to have a fiddle about the satnav to see if it does waypoints or something similar.

[yorkie_chris]

Most let you add "via" points, but I just use a bit of paper with directions on. No battery to go flat.

[hongman]

Also, just did 120 miles this morning of intentional Mway to get a taster, and the most discomfort I was in was numb wrist (vibes) and hip (found sitting upright and forwward, with feet flat on pegs helped)

Need cruise control for the SV ;)

Rear looks a bit sqaurer than I anticipated. poop.

[hongman]

Most let you add "via" points, but I just use a bit of paper with directions on. No battery to go flat.

I'm worse than a woman trying to read a map, upside down

*runs*

[Quedos]

I'm worse than a woman trying to read a map, upside down

*runs*

Hey If it works don't knock it! Least if we get lost we admit it and ask directions??

[yorkie_chris]

7 P's.

Just google map all the junctions you need to look for on a stretch, then for each instruction find something to tell you you've gone too far.

[markc123]

Simply head northish, via as many twisty bits as you can find. When you hit the edge of Edinburgh or Glasgow, have a glance at the map :-)

You going up on the Friday YC?

[markc123]

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=killin&daddr=55.4808916,-2.8218452+to:55.16854,-2.16216+to:55.02101,-2.15137+to:54.8547991,-2.4033901+to:54.74857,-2.21928+to:54.30943,-1.82875+to:54.14369,-1.51402+to:Harrogate&geocode=FRGhXQMdlRy-_ynJcMdUYJWISDGGRyvLOhCjZg%3BFTuSTgMdK_HU_ym3N8_CD IeHSDEwQkPhGWgMEw%3BFRzOSQMdEALf_ymxw0mfI-t9SDGAPWfXnvkMEw%3BFdKNRwMdNizf_ykZYJ_VR8d9SDFxGUH NnvkMEw%3BFY8ERQMdwlPb_yk_Wzi-Dq59SDFQfw1cN9EPEw%3BFZplQwMd8CLe_ylfEDOfJEt8SDEAw jjNnvkMEw%3BFTayPAMdchjk_ymxtKrLuBt8SDGw3PPXnvkMEw %3BFcoqOgMd3OXo_ynloYGuy61-SDHwS2fXnvkMEw%3BFdfUNwMd2IPo_ykBvXVxI055SDH_pN6q-4TAAw&hl=en&mra=dvme&mrsp=5&sz=11&via=1,2,3,4,5,6,7&sll=54.810183,-2.103195&sspn=0.38502,1.056747&ie=UTF8&ll=55.089372,-1.694641&spn=1.529441,4.22699&z=9

Route tweaked a bit

[-Ralph-]

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=killin&daddr=55.4808919,-2.8218461+to:55.16854,-2.16216+to:55.01751,-2.14882+to:54.77841,-2.26118+to:54.30943,-1.82875+to:54.14369,-1.51402+to:Harrogate&geocode=FRGhXQMdlRy-_ynJcMdUYJWISDGGRyvLOhCjZg%3BFTuSTgMdKvHU_ym3N8_CD IeHSDEwQkPhGWgMEw%3BFRzOSQMdEALf_ymxw0mfI-t9SDGAPWfXnvkMEw%3BFSaARwMdLDbf_ykZYJ_VR8d9SDFxGUH NnvkMEw%3BFSraQwMdRH_d_ynfKx86X7N9SDFQ4eXXnvkMEw%3 BFTayPAMdchjk_ymxtKrLuBt8SDGw3PPXnvkMEw%3BFcoqOgMd 3OXo_ynloYGuy61-SDHwS2fXnvkMEw%3BFdfUNwMd2IPo_ykBvXVxI055SDH_pN6q-4TAAw&hl=en&mra=dpe&mrsp=3&sz=9&via=1,2,3,4,5,6&sll=54.965002,-1.870422&sspn=1.534194,4.22699&ie=UTF8&ll=55.297884,-1.104126&spn=3.043143,8.453979&z=8

Is what I have planned so far, helps to start a bit further north ;-)

That's a good route too, could do that from Cannock by following my route until Hawes, then heading to Leyburn

I now live between Northampton and Kettering, so I'm far enough East to justify a more Eastern route, that route is probably what I'll do next time.

For this year though, I'll have the wife in tow, and you'd be lucky to get her on pillion for 150 miles, never mind 400, so this year I'll be driving up in the car and borrowing a bike once in Scotland.

[Dicky Ticker]

Hongman,Myself and several other have just come back from Stirling to Chelmsford in less than 9 hours and part of that was with gales and torrential rain,4 or 5 stops for fuel and a break.Yes it is nice to go a scenic route when the weather is fine but remember it is also a lot more tiring especially if you don't know your route or the roads
I do this a couple of times a year by bike / car and use M11--A14--A1--A68--A720,extremely simple and easy to follow by the road numbers,on to Stirling 463miles

As I take it you have not done this before the A720 leads you on to and over the Forth Road Bridge,just follow the signs for the bridge and M90 Perth
The direct route from the A720 is A8--M9 Stirling to junction No10 and then A84--A85 Killin wich is 500miles approx but do able in a day by this route

[-Ralph-]

Yes it is nice to go a scenic route when the weather is fine but remember it is also a lot more tiring especially if you don't know your route or the roads

Think that's down to the individual and the bike they are on. On both the SV and the Daytona, I find the scenic miles less tiring and less painful on the body. On the XT600 at 70mph I could sit on the motorway all day. Of course, 12 hours on the bike, I collapse and sleep like a baby afterwards, but whilst sitting on the bike I don't find it's the test of endurance that I find on the motorway. 6 hours on a motorway, I struggle to sleep afterwards because I can't find a body position to lie in that doesn't ache.

I rode your Sprint a few hours before facing a 3 hour motorway slog back from Blackpool on my SV, and remember wishing I could keep it for the journey home, so if I had that riding position and that screen for wind protection, I might not feel the same way, but for as long as I choose to buy sporty bikes, it'll be the scenic route for me unless timescales or weather dictate otherwise. I find the corners keep your body moving around and keep your muscles warm and supple, the variation in road conditions and the navigation (which I find easy) keep your brain alert, and less speed and wind resistance/noise helps prevent fatigue.

[MisterTommyH]

Rear looks a bit sqaurer than I anticipated. poop.

Yeah that p1ssed me off. Did 1000 miles of twisties and had the tyres nicely rounded, then did 200 miles on the M-way and squared them off again>! :(

[hongman]

Ok, I'm using Bibio's route from Scotch Corner to the campsite.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=harlow&daddr=Richmond+DL10+5EQ+to:54.79589,-1.85584+to:55.16682,-2.15851+to:55.51454,-2.846+to:56.22758,-3.69386+to:FK21+8TY&geocode=Fc8LFgMd1bIBACnFlZzqmJDYRzGQFr-OusXrvg%3BFWF9PgMdfI3m_ylx3lZIi59-SDEWn0gqAQdkSQ%3BFXIeRAMdoK7j_ymFvnKuONN9SDGQay_Nn vkMEw%3BFWTHSQMdUhDf_yktIjKrH-t9SDExpRFRN9EPEw%3BFawVTwMd0JLU_ym5utLZVoaHSDGxCSD iGWgMEw%3BFfz2WQMd3KLH_ylxHbg__YGISDGR8IHcGWgMEw%3 BFe0GXgMdUiS__ynffrjHKMCISDHA6torXSBA6Q&hl=en&mra=dvme&mrsp=5&sz=9&via=2,3,4,5&sll=56.154729,-2.8125&sspn=1.118221,3.56781&ie=UTF8&ll=55.587659,-2.91687&spn=2.269418,7.13562&z=8

Anyone fancy having a go at making an interesting route from Harlow to Scotch Corner? The South/East part of the UK distinctly lacks as many twisty roads as up Norf!

I'm not being lazy btw - i can (and have) done this myself, but it looks crap and boring if I try to maintain a somewhat directish route. Plus I've probably chosen all the worst roads.

[yorkie_chris]

Simply head northish, via as many twisty bits as you can find. When you hit the edge of Edinburgh or Glasgow, have a glance at the map :-)

You going up on the Friday YC?

Yea

Don't fancy a group ride though TBH. Done one before the other year and spent more time *rsing with satnavs and slow people than riding.

[Bibio]

how does this look:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=harlow&daddr=52.03962,-0.22151+to:52.42987,-0.5779+to:52.8051943,-0.8183496+to:53.37737,-0.76245+to:53.6751,-0.78101+to:53.79082,-1.02402+to:54.06021,-1.53748+to:54.18695,-1.56279+to:54.39969,-1.82391+to:Richmond+DL10+5EQ+to:54.79589,-1.85584+to:55.16682,-2.15851+to:55.51454,-2.846+to:56.22758,-3.69386+to:FK21+8TY&geocode=Fc8LFgMd1bIBACnFlZzqmJDYRzGQFr-OusXrvg%3BFcQPGgMdup78_ylvdWU0Oc13SDEgRR69qBwOEw%3 BFS4EIAMdlC73_ynpahdgW5d3SDHxxzW4qBwOEw%3BFUq-JQMdU4Pz_ynnZI4gatN5SDEBuS64qBwOEw%3BFVp5LgMdrl30_ ylZOpWdd1V4SDGBxKW9qBwOEw%3BFVwEMwMdLhX0_ynZ39Seo-F4SDHREQDSnvkMEw%3BFWTINAMd7F_w_ykv90qiMSN5SDEAGZR bN9EPEw%3BFbLkOAMdOIro_ylVu7vSOFN5SDFRABvSnvkMEw%3 BFcbTOgMdWifo_ymdqSb3yK5-SDHRUBrSnvkMEw%3BFcoSPgMdWivk_ykzP2p_vxh8SDHQmSFcN 9EPEw%3BFWF9PgMdfI3m_ylx3lZIi59-SDEWn0gqAQdkSQ%3BFXIeRAMdoK7j_ymFvnKuONN9SDGQay_Nn vkMEw%3BFWTHSQMdUhDf_yktIjKrH-t9SDExpRFRN9EPEw%3BFawVTwMd0JLU_ym5utLZVoaHSDGxCSD iGWgMEw%3BFfz2WQMd3KLH_ylxHbg__YGISDGR8IHcGWgMEw%3 BFe0GXgMdUiS__ynffrjHKMCISDHA6torXSBA6Q&hl=en&mra=dpe&mrsp=7&sz=10&via=1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,11,12,13,14&sll=53.935071,-1.131592&sspn=0.59098,1.783905&ie=UTF8&ll=53.478239,-1.422729&spn=2.389789,7.13562&z=8

[hongman]

Damn site better than mine.

Looks like I'll have to leave in the morning though, which is fine.

:D

[Bibio]

tiz a pity i don't have more time to accompany you back down as i'm well overdue a visit to my sister in Bassingbourn.

[hongman]

Yeah, that would've been awesome!

[hongman]

Just booked myself into Scotch Corner for 23rd and 26th.

£29 per night at first....

Then I noticed another Travelodge 1.5miles up the road, £10!!

2 nights for £20, well chuffed!

[Bibio]

yes but what they fail to mention is that in the travelodge they jump out the wardrobe when you are sleeping tie you up and have their wicked way with your poop shoot :-)

[hongman]

I call that premium service :D

[grh1904]

how does this look:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=harlow&daddr=52.03962,-0.22151+to:52.42987,-0.5779+to:52.8051943,-0.8183496+to:53.37737,-0.76245+to:53.6751,-0.78101+to:53.79082,-1.02402+to:54.06021,-1.53748+to:54.18695,-1.56279+to:54.39969,-1.82391+to:Richmond+DL10+5EQ+to:54.79589,-1.85584+to:55.16682,-2.15851+to:55.51454,-2.846+to:56.22758,-3.69386+to:FK21+8TY&geocode=Fc8LFgMd1bIBACnFlZzqmJDYRzGQFr-OusXrvg%3BFcQPGgMdup78_ylvdWU0Oc13SDEgRR69qBwOEw%3 BFS4EIAMdlC73_ynpahdgW5d3SDHxxzW4qBwOEw%3BFUq-JQMdU4Pz_ynnZI4gatN5SDEBuS64qBwOEw%3BFVp5LgMdrl30_ ylZOpWdd1V4SDGBxKW9qBwOEw%3BFVwEMwMdLhX0_ynZ39Seo-F4SDHREQDSnvkMEw%3BFWTINAMd7F_w_ykv90qiMSN5SDEAGZR bN9EPEw%3BFbLkOAMdOIro_ylVu7vSOFN5SDFRABvSnvkMEw%3 BFcbTOgMdWifo_ymdqSb3yK5-SDHRUBrSnvkMEw%3BFcoSPgMdWivk_ykzP2p_vxh8SDHQmSFcN 9EPEw%3BFWF9PgMdfI3m_ylx3lZIi59-SDEWn0gqAQdkSQ%3BFXIeRAMdoK7j_ymFvnKuONN9SDGQay_Nn vkMEw%3BFWTHSQMdUhDf_yktIjKrH-t9SDExpRFRN9EPEw%3BFawVTwMd0JLU_ym5utLZVoaHSDGxCSD iGWgMEw%3BFfz2WQMd3KLH_ylxHbg__YGISDGR8IHcGWgMEw%3 BFe0GXgMdUiS__ynffrjHKMCISDHA6torXSBA6Q&hl=en&mra=dpe&mrsp=7&sz=10&via=1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,11,12,13,14&sll=53.935071,-1.131592&sspn=0.59098,1.783905&ie=UTF8&ll=53.478239,-1.422729&spn=2.389789,7.13562&z=8

That is a brill route that will put a HUGE smile on yer face, it's whagt I was trying to amend on the OP's route but for some reason it wouldn't save when I tried to put linky thingy on here!!!!,,,,,,,,

I believe the computer may have said "NO".

[hongman]

Thanks for the confirmation.

Just need to try and pack lightly, which should be easy enough as I wont be tenting it.

[-Ralph-]

That is an excellent route, but if you have the time, put this into it to break up the boring first bit of A1 & A14

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=A6&daddr=B645&hl=en&geocode=FQItHgMdThD3_w%3BFYAUHQMdqqX7_w&gl=uk&mra=mift&mrsp=1&sz=12&sll=52.295882,-0.415764&sspn=0.136271,0.41851&ie=UTF8&z=12

[hongman]

I'll re-do the route to include that bit, thanks.

Getting real excisted now, longest road trip I'll have ever done! And on fun roads!

If my tyres aren't rounded nicely by the time I get there I'm obviously doing something wrong ;)

[Bibio]

and if they aren't they soon will be :-)

[hongman]

Knowing my luck the best roads will either be choca with traffic or road closed, accident, or something.

[Bibio]

if that's the case then we will just go and do something else on some well fun roads :-)

Disclaimer: i will get us lost. rofl

[hongman]

lol, TomTom for the rescue!

I'd be lying if I said I ddnt buy the new TomTom with the GM specifically in mind.....