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hongman
15-06-11, 01:32 PM
Boo hoo.
Was having a right old blast down some proper twisties.
Then I went to change gear and I couldn't find the gear lever.
Lost a footrest bolt and so the whole assembly is just hanging there.
1hr wait for my RAC man to show up.
timwilky
15-06-11, 01:33 PM
You are not the first. It was such a well known fault that people were encouraged to check their bolts on a regular basis.
hongman
15-06-11, 01:36 PM
Yeah. Glad it happened now And now on the way up to GM.
Iv had 3 bikers and 2 cars stop to Ask me if I'm ok so far.
Happened to one of ours a while ago, but he only lost one bolt, so we've borrowed one from the pillion peg:
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/2867/img2194f.jpg
dizzyblonde
15-06-11, 01:38 PM
As Tim says common issue.
First time it happened to me was on my 125, went to change gear, foot couldn't find it. Pulled upto a stop, and saw a bike parked in a garden, knocked on door, and the nice man with the blue Bandit came and fixed it, away I went\\:D/
Second time was two up on the ex's raptor, when we were picking up Dave the SV. Came off motorway for services, in Grantham, had to coast round the roundabout into the services as the assembly was flapping about. Matt went in to have a pee and a scratch of his head, by the time he'd come out, I'd got a man with a van to look in his tool box, and its was practically back together\\:D/
andrewsmith
15-06-11, 01:41 PM
It happens and could be worse.
I lost a side stand bolt and almost the rearset the same day
Funny that, never had an issue on the SV in around 20k miles I owned it.
Happens with the sidestand on the Falco, despite using Locktite on the bolts.
hongman
15-06-11, 01:44 PM
And to think I was worried they may have been too tight!
Sucks
Wish I had cable ties with me :(
Specialone
15-06-11, 02:09 PM
And to think I was worried they may have been too tight!
Sucks
Wish I had cable ties with me :(
I always carry cable ties :cool:
hongman
15-06-11, 02:21 PM
I'm hone!
RAC man turned up, took a bolt from the rear brake side, and popped it in. Job jobbed.
Littlepeahead
15-06-11, 02:46 PM
Same thing happened to me on the Essex rideout last year. Kept dropping off every 25 miles or so until Furry Ginger One remebered he had cable ties and we fixed it with that. I kept having to make everyone stop but as I had the burgers in my top box for the BBQ they weren't going to abandon me.
DJFridge
15-06-11, 02:47 PM
You are not the first. It was such a well known fault that people were encouraged to check their bolts on a regular basis.
I was lucky. Mine sheared off at the dealers when they were looking to see if they could adjust the position before I bought it! New bolt, sorted, but I'm very glad it didn't happen out on the road.
hongman
15-06-11, 03:15 PM
Well I just went out and tightened everything up. Nothing else was very loose, 2 or 3 got nipped back up - although saying that, I guess vibrations can have a profound effect.
Will nip out and get some threadlock for peace of mind on the bits that I think require.
Also found my hugger cracked around all the places that it is secured to the bike...damn it. New one of those too I guess.
Littlepeahead
15-06-11, 03:18 PM
The threadlock we put on mine then gummed up and meant I had to ride to my MOT with a choice of 1st or 2nd gear only. Though apparently gears aren't essential for an MOT pass the chap at Newcombes still sorted it out for me.
hongman
15-06-11, 03:23 PM
How did threadlock gum up the gears?
As Dizzy (not the blonde one) said, just take out you're toolkit, take off the pillion pegs, re-use one of the bolts from there to get you home!
Job jobbed
hongman
15-06-11, 03:38 PM
Yar...few problems with that one.
No pillion pegs aaaand no toolkit (lost it in my off)
yorkie_chris
15-06-11, 06:56 PM
How is that broken down? Just pick a gear and stick with it.
hongman
15-06-11, 07:10 PM
It was stuck in 1st! I'm not ragging my way 20 miles in first gear lol. I was banging down he gears towards a roundabout when I lost it
yorkie_chris
15-06-11, 07:13 PM
So push the selector by hand to get 3rd
hongman
15-06-11, 07:24 PM
Didnt think of that. And the 2nd bolt holding the entire
Footrest assembly was also loose - didn't want to lose that also!
andrewsmith
15-06-11, 08:09 PM
Hong
http://thereifixedit.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/white-trash-repairs-repair-flowchart.jpg
If you stick it in first gear....... When the revs - speed get high,
pull the clutch in and coast till u need to speed up again.
At leist youll get home.
hongman
15-06-11, 08:12 PM
Hahahaha
Dicky Ticker
15-06-11, 08:41 PM
Anybody fancy running a book on whether Hongman actually makes it/does it and gets back without "Incident"------------unbelievably unlucky:)
Sorry it just tickled my WKD side;)
hongman
15-06-11, 09:12 PM
I got back without incident not long after the original post!
So anyway this is what happened...I dont know if you can see but the top bolt is also partially out, which meant I didnt want to ride it at all for fear of losing that one too!
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9950/photoxku.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/135/photoxku.jpg/)
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-Ralph-
16-06-11, 08:07 AM
Do yourself a favour and go buy some cheap tools from a Tesco or Asda hypermarket, and make yourself up a new toolkit before you ride up to the GM. If you post up a new thread you'll get plenty of help as to which tools are the most useful to put in it for your bike. You'll probably spend less than 10 or 15 quid and the toolkit will still be better quality than the original Suzuki one.
-Ralph-
16-06-11, 08:15 AM
Or just go to halfords and buy one of these
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_26 3987_categoryId_165695_langId_-1?cm_sp=Intelligent_Offer-_-Product_List_Zone_1-_-Blank&iozone=PLPz1
Then supplement it with a cheap set of ring spanners from the supermarket from 8 to 17mm. You won't need for instance the 11, 15 or 16mm, so take those out and save yourself the space and weight (not sure if you even need the 13mm on an SV?)
Also get a spark plug removal tool of the right size for your bike.
One of these http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_22 0357_langId_-1_categoryId_165695 or a puncture repair kit if you know how to use it, is a good idea too.
Include a selection of cable ties, a roll of electrical tape, a length of electrical flex, and a roll of duct tape somewhere in your kit.
One of the tiny bottles of WD40 wouldn't go amiss too.
Oh, and a swiss army knife if you have one.
Even if you wouldn't know how to fix certain problems, there may be someone else around with the knowledge, if you already have the tools.
Fruity-ya-ya
16-06-11, 09:00 AM
Or just go to halfords and buy one of these
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_26 3987_categoryId_165695_langId_-1?cm_sp=Intelligent_Offer-_-Product_List_Zone_1-_-Blank&iozone=PLPz1
Then supplement it with a cheap set of ring spanners from the supermarket from 8 to 17mm. You won't need for instance the 11, 15 or 16mm, so take those out and save yourself the space and weight (not sure if you even need the 13mm on an SV?)
Also get a spark plug removal tool of the right size for your bike.
One of these http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_22 0357_langId_-1_categoryId_165695 or a puncture repair kit if you know how to use it, is a good idea too.
Include a selection of cable ties, a roll of electrical tape, a length of electrical flex, and a roll of duct tape somewhere in your kit.
One of the tiny bottles of WD40 wouldn't go amiss too.
Oh, and a swiss army knife if you have one.
Even if you wouldn't know how to fix certain problems, there may be someone else around with the knowledge, if you already have the tools.
I think a visit to my local Halfords might be in order.
Thanks Ralph.
andrewsmith
16-06-11, 09:06 AM
Or just go to halfords and buy one of these
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_26 3987_categoryId_165695_langId_-1?cm_sp=Intelligent_Offer-_-Product_List_Zone_1-_-Blank&iozone=PLPz1
Then supplement it with a cheap set of ring spanners from the supermarket from 8 to 17mm. You won't need for instance the 11, 15 or 16mm, so take those out and save yourself the space and weight (not sure if you even need the 13mm on an SV?)
Also get a spark plug removal tool of the right size for your bike.
One of these http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_22 0357_langId_-1_categoryId_165695 or a puncture repair kit if you know how to use it, is a good idea too.
Include a selection of cable ties, a roll of electrical tape, a length of electrical flex, and a roll of duct tape somewhere in your kit.
One of the tiny bottles of WD40 wouldn't go amiss too.
Oh, and a swiss army knife if you have one.
Even if you wouldn't know how to fix certain problems, there may be someone else around with the knowledge, if you already have the tools.
As above
I've added the following to mine
- Cable ties
- Electricians tape
- Duct tape
- Cheap bottle of thread lock
- Decent flat head screwdriver (well it was free out of a ceiling void)
Maplins are also doing cheap Roslon tools for £5 a kit if your wanting a few cheap extras. I'm getting the 1/4 drive socket kit
I got back without incident not long after the original post!
So anyway this is what happened...I dont know if you can see but the top bolt is also partially out, which meant I didnt want to ride it at all for fear of losing that one too!
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9950/photoxku.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/135/photoxku.jpg/)
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I hate to say it but i think the reason it fell out is because it is not fitted properly in the first place.
The triangle part on my bike snapped accorss your top and lower left bolts however the triangle should be mounted directly to the frame and not to a seperate bit of metal.***
***goes out to double check mine are all fitted nicely after using aircraft grade locktight
That looks like a raiser plate mate.
yorkie_chris
16-06-11, 11:57 AM
My solution would probably have been to nip that bolt up with it in right position and then feed a cable tie in through bottom hole a couple of times.
hongman
16-06-11, 04:16 PM
Will be going shopping at the weekend (or certainly before GM) to pick up some tools (I actually have most of it anyway, just wasn't on me at the time).
Collis, that is a riser plate as dyzio mentions. It is on properly. I had in fact thought I overtightened them, seems something happened for them to work loose. The other side is solid as a rock.
YC, yep, hunted around my bag for a zip tie, but alas, none there. I was looking around for anything suitable to ram in there...but nothing worth the risk vs just waiting for RAC!
yorkie_chris
16-06-11, 04:27 PM
How can you not have cable ties and a roll of gaffer? How do you survive?
hongman
16-06-11, 05:16 PM
No comment :D
Bluefish
16-06-11, 07:01 PM
How can you not have cable ties and a roll of gaffer? How do you survive?
By not having a curvy that breaks down all the time :rolleyes:
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