Bibio's AR11 route

[Bibio]

The route i have planned for travelling down to the AR is outlined below.

the riding pace will be a moderately sedate one (however if the group decide that they want the pace a bit more spirited after the fist stop then say so) with a stop around every 30-40 miles.
if you want to go faster than the leader then by all means do so. faster riders can either pull over and wait at the next stop or just go it alone.
THE RUN IS NOT A RACE its a day out and i would rather people got to the AR in one piece.
individuals are responsible for making sure that their bike is in full working order if you breakdown on the day your on your own, we are not there to fix your bike.

if there are people wanting to join on route then please choose one of the stop points and put it beside your name could you also PM me and i'll give you my mobile number.

Complete Route:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=High+St%2FA701&daddr=55.280807,-3.4286532+to:55.1443164,-3.3748334+to:55.089868,-3.3206212+to:55.0544102,-3.2194627+to:55.008534,-3.076288+to:Bensmoor+Rd+to:54.98105,-2.88965+to:54.9311332,-2.7452268+to:54.868723,-2.5034787+to:A686+to:Kirkstone+Pass%2FA592+to:54.3 048077,-2.8527602+to:A65+to:Unknown+road&hl=en&ll=54.607074,-2.807007&spn=2.395772,7.13562&sll=54.106012,-2.372746&sspn=0.009473,0.027874&geocode=FW5STAMd42_L_w%3BFaeESwMd067L_ymH3yF99FF9S DGh7x7hGWgMEw%3BFXxvSQMdD4HM_ynbMWF_A0l9SDGgXSXhGW gMEw%3BFcyaSAMd01TN_ymLUjBS4jd9SDHjVrpDl78uog%3BFU oQSAMd-t_O_yn9Af1y4Th9SDFxcx_hGWgMEw%3BFRZdRwMdQA_R_yn9Un zR_T19SDHB57Hv38lofA%3BFQNRRwMdbkfR_w%3BFbrxRgMdTu jT_ylJAst9qBF9SDGgWyDNnvkMEw%3BFb0uRgMddhzW_ynTqxm aWA99SDGQpiHNnvkMEw%3BFfM6RQMdyszZ_yk9tSDvNql9SDFh al7XnvkMEw%3BFaq5QwMdeBPZ_w%3BFXEQPwMdGl3T_w%3BFSe gPAMdaHjU_ylZ1wRVXJF8SDFwwPtQN9EPEw%3BFduhOwMd-aTW_w%3BFW2TOQMdI-vb_w&mra=mi&mrsp=14&sz=16&via=1,2,3,4,5,7,8,9,12&z=8

Fuel Stop has been decided that it will be M6 services just of Junction 36 128 miles from Moffat point E on the map below:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=High+St%2FA701&daddr=55.280807,-3.4286532+to:55.1443164,-3.3748334+to:55.089868,-3.3206212+to:55.0544102,-3.2194627+to:55.008534,-3.076288+to:Bensmoor+Rd+to:54.98105,-2.88965+to:54.9311332,-2.7452268+to:54.868723,-2.5034787+to:A686+to:Kirkstone+Pass%2FA592+to:54.3 048077,-2.8527602+to:A65&hl=en&ll=54.294088,-3.136597&spn=2.414152,7.13562&sll=54.330139,-2.682037&sspn=0.602988,1.783905&geocode=FW5STAMd42_L_w%3BFaeESwMd067L_ymH3yF99FF9S DGh7x7hGWgMEw%3BFXxvSQMdD4HM_ynbMWF_A0l9SDGgXSXhGW gMEw%3BFcyaSAMd01TN_ymLUjBS4jd9SDHjVrpDl78uog%3BFU oQSAMd-t_O_yn9Af1y4Th9SDFxcx_hGWgMEw%3BFRZdRwMdQA_R_yn9Un zR_T19SDHB57Hv38lofA%3BFQNRRwMdbkfR_w%3BFbrxRgMdTu jT_ylJAst9qBF9SDGgWyDNnvkMEw%3BFb0uRgMddhzW_ynTqxm aWA99SDGQpiHNnvkMEw%3BFfM6RQMdyszZ_yk9tSDvNql9SDFh al7XnvkMEw%3BFaq5QwMdeBPZ_w%3BFXEQPwMdGl3T_w%3BFSe gPAMdaHjU_ylZ1wRVXJF8SDFwwPtQN9EPEw%3BFduhOwMd-aTW_w&mra=mr&via=1,2,3,4,5,7,8,9,12&z=8



Start: Moffat (High Street) leaving at 12:00 midday

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=55.333386,-3.444698&sll=55.333243,-3.444096&sspn=0.002386,0.006968&num=1&z=17 (http://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=55.333243,-3.444096&spn=0.002386,0.006968&z=18)

please fill your tank up in Moffat BEFORE we leave.
total miles of Journey will be around 153 miles if everyone can manage that in one go then there will be no stops for petrol so please tell me beside your name in the attendees list.

EDIT:
the only stop for petrol will be at junction 36 on the M6 services so please make sure that you brim your tank before we set off. those meeting us on route please make sure that you have enough petrol to get you to the above petrol station.

if you have to stop elsewhere for petrol, then your on your own to find a petrol station.
we should get to Dalesbridge between 5:00 and 6:00pm

Stop 1: Gretna = Moffat to Gretna 31 miles

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=High+St%2FA701&daddr=55.280807,-3.4286532+to:55.1443168,-3.3748342+to:55.089868,-3.3206212+to:55.0544105,-3.2194634+to:55.008534,-3.076288+to:Bensmoor+Rd&hl=en&ll=55.090158,-3.181915&spn=0.591792,1.783905&sll=55.005572,-3.061527&sspn=0.001158,0.003484&geocode=FW5STAMd42_L_w%3BFaeESwMd067L_ymH3yF99FF9S DGh7x7hGWgMEw%3BFXxvSQMdDoHM_ynbMWF_A0l9SDGgXSXhGW gMEw%3BFcyaSAMd01TN_ymLUjBS4jd9SDHjVrpDl78uog%3BFU oQSAMd-d_O_yn9Af1y4Th9SDFxcx_hGWgMEw%3BFRZdRwMdQA_R_yn9Un zR_T19SDHB57Hv38lofA%3BFQNRRwMdbkfR_w&mra=dme&mrsp=6&sz=19&via=1,2,3,4,5&z=10

Stop 2 (lunch): Hartside Top Cafe = Gretna to Hartside Top Cafe 40 miles

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=Bensmoor+Rd&daddr=54.96881,-2.83164+to:54.93715,-2.70149+to:54.90662,-2.5100226+to:A686&hl=en&ll=54.89438,-2.770615&spn=0.308796,0.891953&sll=54.915895,-2.769585&sspn=0.154316,0.445976&geocode=FYBQRwMdH0bR_w%3BFerBRgMd6MrU_ynbOTtk1A99S DFw8iDNnvkMEw%3BFT5GRgMdTsfW_yndNAP5owh9SDHgWh3Ynv kMEw%3BFfzORQMdOrPZ_ynB9Qq_yKh9SDEIVxkZp_m_gA%3BFY e5QwMdGRTZ_w&mra=dpe&mrsp=2&sz=12&via=1,2,3&z=11

Stop 3: Kirkstone Pass Inn = Hartside Top Cafe to Kirkstone Pass Inn 33 miles

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=A686&daddr=Kirkstone+Pass%2FA592&hl=en&ll=54.597528,-2.552948&spn=0.62611,1.783905&sll=54.463466,-2.923125&sspn=0.004696,0.013937&geocode=FYe5QwMdGRTZ_w%3BFcwPPwMd41zT_w&mra=me&mrsp=1&sz=17&z=10

Finnish: Dalesbridge = Kirkstone Pass Inn to Dalesbridge 48 miles

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=Kirkstone+Pass%2FA592&daddr=54.24008,-2.9263+to:Unknown+road&hl=en&ll=54.294889,-2.510376&spn=0.626754,1.783905&sll=54.031973,-1.790771&sspn=1.261514,3.56781&geocode=FcwPPwMd41zT_w%3BFVCjOwMdJFnT_ylTVCmln5d8S DHAzFFcN9EPEw%3BFUOTOQMd3Orb_w&mra=dpe&mrsp=1&sz=9&via=1&z=10


i know this seems a bit overkill planning just for 150 odd miles but if more than just me turn up then i would rather people knew what was happening than left in the dark.

Can we keep the chit chat to the other thread http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=162503 please people. Thanks Lance

[peterco]

These are the location petrol stations on route to AR.
Alston
Penrith
Ambleside
Windermere
Kirby lonsdale
A65 Ingleton

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=petrol+stations&hl=en&ll=54.552952,-2.584534&spn=0.544767,1.277161&sll=54.382957,-2.769928&sspn=0.547035,1.277161&radius=30.87&z=10

I hope this helps.

[Kilted Ginger]

For anyone interested I am going to try to avoid motorway en-route to the moffat meet.
Probably down via Biggar as thats a nice road. From mine its about 2 - 2.1/2 hrs so leaving here 9:15 - 30.
Anybody that wants to join me is welcome and i may even be persuaded to have a coffee and roll ready at mine before we leave.
Not that fussed about the specific route but THIS (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Kilsyth+Rd%2FA803&daddr=55.6431754,-3.6863126+to:55.5468575,-3.4137581+to:High+St%2FA701&hl=en&geocode=FVBbVgMdhuPD_w%3BFScMUQMdWMDH_ymh_AmmwgiIS DEQlz3hGWgMEw%3BFemTTwMdAunL_ymPENAdN_qHSDGPs3Xojl ZJOA%3BFXpRTAMdw3DL_w&mra=dvme&mrsp=2&sz=10&via=1,2&dirflg=h&sll=55.537957,-3.35495&sspn=0.471691,1.234589&ie=UTF8&ll=55.717829,-3.523865&spn=0.939062,2.469177&z=9) would be an option

[Blue Flame]

i would be up for that. don't know about the rest of them but if we made your gaff the meeting/start point then we could by-pass Moffat completely and head straight for Gretna where we could fill up at the services and then meet up with the rest of them.

having a stop at Abington for a pee then hugging the old A74 all the way down to Gretna.

its only adding about 25 miles overall to my journey.

think the only one out the bunch that doesn't know where you stay is Terah but he could meet me at Dunfermline.

if we are not stopping at Moffat then we could leave yours at 10 and still be in Gretna for 12:30-1:00.

Hmm. Not so sure bout that. If the weather is not very clever I wouldn't be heading over to KG's Moffat is a better meet point IMHO. Happy to meet there whatever the weather is like. Besides, I am not sure that KG was anticipating that many people.

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[Kilted Ginger]

One other slight point, as some of you know i've badly sprained my wrist and have concerns about being able to make the AR. Made a decision this morning that if i'm still unable to ride i'll be taking the car. In this scenario i'm happy to take anybodys luggage to free up your respective bikes for the ride. Hopefully not but....

[dizzyblonde]

:smt006Hello peeps, please watch out for a custom Red Raptor 1000 and (I think) a trumpet(if the Raptor 650 was sold).

Crap Tartan and his wife are coming down from over the border, look after them if you find them:thumright:

[Milky Bar Kid]

If it makes any difference, I'm not going to be in any mad rush to get down there on the Friday. Could quite easily set off in the afternoon if you're planning on getting your head down for a bit first?

If you didn't mind James that would be appreciated. I can't guarentee I will be home at 8 so I would be hoping for at least 4 hours kip. You know that if I went on y own without a sat nav I'd get lost....

[JamesMio]

Makes no odds to me dude - if truth be told it'd mean I could maybe get some work done in the morning in that case, so it's all good.

You'll have to pass by here en route anyway, so you can just give me a yell when you're at Dumfer's and we can head down from there?

[Milky Bar Kid]

Yeh, sounds good...means I can get a Maccyd's for my breakfast/lunch! lol!

[JamesMio]

Even better - feel free to stick a Sausage n Egg McMuffin up yer juke for me too then!

[andrewsmith]

Well I shall be leaving mine at 1230 Bib!!!

[Bibio]

i'm leaving moffat at 12 ish so gretna should be 12:45 and hartside should be between 1:45-2 depending on group pace.

[SIII]

Bibio...............Moffat......................15 0 miles = yes...............(2)
Terah..............Moffat......................TBC .............................No pref
Peterco............Moffat......................180 miles.......................(2)
Andrewsmith.....Alston.......................130 miles (optimistic).......No pref
Blue Flame........Moffat......................depends on wrist.............No pref
Kilted Ginger.....Moffat.......................150....... .......................No pref
Fenjer..............Moffat.......................1 50................................No Pref
SIII..................Moffat...................... .150..............................No pref

See ya's @ Moffat

[Terah]

As tempting as a bit of brekkie might be it'd add about an hour to my trip so I'll meet you all in Moffat.

Out of interest Bibio do you know the route down or are we going by your SatNav? Just wondering how many days to pack for :)

[Blue Flame]

i have no bloody idea of the route so its a magical mystery tour via my spaznav :mrgreen:

i know some of it but englandshire is not my strong point. so it might get interesting :-D

I know a few of those roads and been at the campsite the last time the AR was held there so we should be relatively OK :)

Might just keep following you when you take a wrong turn just for the fun of it though !!!

[The Guru]

YAY!! Sydney passed his MOT with flying colours.... YAY!

*happy dance*

:thumleft:

Where did you take it?

[Blue Flame]

YAY!! Sydney passed his MOT with flying colours.... YAY!

*happy dance*

Congratulations. Its a stressful time putting the bairn through an exam. ;-)

[Kilted Ginger]

OK folks, tidied this thread up, if i've deleted anything you really want back let me know, it was just for the sake of making it easy to read for folks wanting info.

James Mio........Leaving later in Day Could possibly catch group at Hartside?????
MBK................Leaving later in Day Could possibly catch group at Hartside?????

Combatfred & MrsCF..Traveling down Thursday (lucky buggers)

Bibio......................KG's 8:45 - Moffat 11:45 - Hartside 13:45 - 15:30- Campsite 17:30ish
Peterco..................KG's 8:45 - Moffat 11:45 - Hartside 13:45 - 15:30- Campsite 17:30ish
Blue Flame..............KG's 8:45 - Moffat 11:45 - Hartside 13:45 - 15:30- Campsite 17:30ish
Kilted Ginger............KG's 8:45 - Moffat 11:45 - Hartside 13:45 - 15:30- Campsite 17:30ish


Terah....................Moffat 11:45 - Hartside 13:45 - 15:30- Campsite 17:30ish
Andrewsmith...........Alston 13:30 - Hartside 13:45 - 15:30- Campsite 17:30ish
Fenjer....................Moffat 11:45 - Hartside 13:45 - 15:30- Campsite 17:30ish
SIII........................Moffat 11:45 - Hartside 13:45 - 15:30- Campsite 17:30ish

WeegieBlue.............????????.........

There were some others who intimated going in the earlier thread, are you still or not???
1..The Guru .................
2..TamSV.....................
3..Munkygunn182...........Doubtfull as opening uprising club thingy i think
4.Theshadow................


For those wanting breakfast at mine, I'll have Rolls and coffee ready 8:30-8:45. looking to leave mine 9:15 - 9:30 at the latest, to allow a leisurely scenic run to moffat. (so far just Bibio, Peterco & Blue Flame)

[andrewsmith]

I think Craig's (Munky) very tied up with a club night launch this week.
So is probably out

[fenjer]

:thumleft:

Where did you take it?

Pheonix Honda at Grangemouth, £15 for an MOT.


Congratulations. Its a stressful time putting the bairn through an exam. ;-)

haha! Thanks!

Also tonight I did some *ahem* spirited riding *ahem* and fuel consumption fell to under 130miles to the tank... :shock: But I'm guessing the ride down won't be a ridiculous pace.

[Bibio]

KG tidied up this thread off his own back as it was getting full of chit chat..

so let me make it clear again:

'''Can we keep the chit chat to the other thread http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=162503 please people. Thanks Lance'''

i'm not trying to be a hitler about it but....

Thank again Lance :-)

[peterco]

KG, will meet at yours.
pete

[Milky Bar Kid]

OK folks, tidied this thread up, if i've deleted anything you really want back let me know, it was just for the sake of making it easy to read for folks wanting info.

James Mio........Leaving later in Day Could possibly catch group at Hartside?????
MBK................Leaving later in Day Could possibly catch group at Hartside?????


Bibio......................KG's 8:45 - Moffat 11:45 - Hartside 13:45 - 15:30- Campsite 17:30ish
Peterco..................KG's 8:45 - Moffat 11:45 - Hartside 13:45 - 15:30- Campsite 17:30ish
Blue Flame..............KG's 8:45 - Moffat 11:45 - Hartside 13:45 - 15:30- Campsite 17:30ish
Kilted Ginger............KG's 8:45 - Moffat 11:45 - Hartside 13:45 - 15:30- Campsite 17:30ish


Terah....................Moffat 11:45 - Hartside 13:45 - 15:30- Campsite 17:30ish
Andrewsmith...........Alston 13:30 - Hartside 13:45 - 15:30- Campsite 17:30ish
Fenjer....................Moffat 11:45 - Hartside 13:45 - 15:30- Campsite 17:30ish
SIII........................Moffat 11:45 - Hartside 13:45 - 15:30- Campsite 17:30ish
Combatfred & MrsCF.?????.........
WeegieBlue.............????????.........

There were some others who intimated going in the earlier thread, are you still or not???
1..The Guru .................
2..TamSV.....................
3..Munkygunn182...........Doubtfull as opening uprising club thingy i think
4.Theshadow................


For those wanting breakfast at mine, I'll have Rolls and coffee ready 8:30-8:45. looking to leave mine 9:15 - 9:30 at the latest, to allow a leisurely scenic run to moffat. (so far just Bibio, Peterco & Blue Flame)

Depending on what time I rise from my pit, we could possibly catch up at that....Mr Ugly aka James what do you think?

[JamesMio]

Certainly do'able, aye - I'm ordering up a new tyre for my bike next week, 'hopefully' it'll get fitted and through it's MOT all in time for next weekend.

Kinda leaving it tight, but I'm pretty confident it'll all be fine.

[JamesMio]

Ok, I'm now at a meeting on Friday morning but it's with a client literaly around the corner from my house so it shouldn't cause too many problems.

I 'should' be done for 11ish but I won't know until I'm actually there how long it'll take.

Either way, should give MBK a chance to rise and shine though.

[Bibio]

just to add.. the meeting point at Gretna will be at the foodhall at Gretna carpark:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=High+St%2FA701&daddr=55.280807,-3.4286532+to:55.1443164,-3.3748334+to:55.089868,-3.3206212+to:55.0544102,-3.2194627+to:55.008534,-3.076288+to:Bensmoor+Rd&hl=en&ll=55.005645,-3.06186&spn=0.001158,0.003484&sll=55.005572,-3.061527&sspn=0.001158,0.003484&geocode=FW5STAMd42_L_w%3BFaeESwMd067L_ymH3yF99FF9S DGh7x7hGWgMEw%3BFXxvSQMdD4HM_ynbMWF_A0l9SDGgXSXhGW gMEw%3BFcyaSAMd01TN_ymLUjBS4jd9SDHjVrpDl78uog%3BFU oQSAMd-t_O_yn9Af1y4Th9SDFxcx_hGWgMEw%3BFRZdRwMdQA_R_yn9Un zR_T19SDHB57Hv38lofA%3BFQNRRwMdbkfR_w&mra=dme&mrsp=6&sz=19&via=1,2,3,4,5&t=h&z=19

[SIII]

Still on for meeting you guy's on Friday but won't be going to the AR:(

Just got too much on this week, Newton Stewart Bike show on Sunday and away next week.

Plan to ride from Moffat to Hartside & then down to Windermere, then return back up to Keswick and then home.

250 miles round trip, looking forward to it.:cool:

[Kilted Ginger]

James Mio........Leaving later in Day Aiming to catch group at gretna or Hartside

Combatfred & MrsCF..Traveling down Thursday (lucky buggers)

Bibio......................KG's 8:45 - Moffat 11:45 - Hartside 13:45 - 15:30- Campsite 17:30ish
Peterco..................KG's 8:45 - Moffat 11:45 - Hartside 13:45 - 15:30- Campsite 17:30ish
Blue Flame..............KG's 8:45 - Moffat 11:45 - Hartside 13:45 - 15:30- Campsite 17:30ish
Kilted Ginger............KG's 8:45 - Moffat 11:45 - Hartside 13:45 - 15:30- Campsite 17:30ish


Terah....................Moffat 11:45 - Hartside 13:45 - 15:30- Campsite 17:30ish
Andrewsmith...........Alston 13:30 - Hartside 13:45 - 15:30- Campsite 17:30ish
Fenjer....................Moffat 11:45 - Hartside 13:45 - 15:30- Campsite 17:30ish
SIII........................Moffat 11:45 - Hartside 13:45 - 15:30- Homeward

WeegieBlue.............????????.........



For those wanting breakfast at mine, I'll have Rolls and coffee ready 8:30-8:45. looking to leave mine 9:15 - 9:30 at the latest, to allow a leisurely scenic run to moffat. (so far just Bibio, Peterco & Blue Flame)[/QUOTE]

[andrewsmith]

KG

You followed a local to the Cafe? 15 minutes is v leisurely in bone dry conditions.

Lance, PM me you mobile mate. As i should get to the cafe at the same time as you leaving Moffat

[Bibio]

Tam is out due to his wife being due any day now.

munky is to buisy

the guru removed his name from the main AR list and i seem to recall the shadow removing his name at the same time.

havent a clue about blue.

[SIII]

Last heard of Weegie - sold his rizla gixxer and working in Englandshire

See ya's @ Moffat. Will be by the earless ram!

[-Ralph-]

Ride safe boys & girls!

[littleoldman2]

Andrew what time are you setting off for Alston. I may ride to the ar then home as camping etc is out for me this weekend.

[andrewsmith]

about 1230 mate.
Wheres best 4 u 2 meet if ur fancing it?

[littleoldman2]

How about A69 turn off for Heddon then up the military Road or A1/A69

[andrewsmith]

aye the shell station as i need a splash