View Full Version : Could you pass the 11 plus?
This was on the BBC website the other day:-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7773974.stm
a) What did you score?
b) Is the 11 plus REALLY this difficult? I can't imagine a 10/11 year old doing this?
Owenski
20-09-11, 08:00 AM
I did an entrance exam (never knew it as an 11 plus) to get into Heckmondwike, bloody horrible it was - I cried after the first of the 3 exams we had to take.
I did pass though and went into one of the best non private schools in the country... I know, would you know it, it turns out Im actually a bit of a brain not that you'd ever know it if you met me. HEWWWLLLOOO :D
I've just taken your little test and got 12 out of 15 in 3min06 though.... so maybe first time round it was a fluke lol.
Seemed pretty easy to me, but I would be impressed if a 10yr old could solve those problems.
minimorecambe
20-09-11, 08:00 AM
a) 11 out of 15
b) The way the questions are wordered is in my opinion far too complicated for a 10/11 year old. Plus the questions are quite difficult :p
(I got 9, 10, 11 and 15 wrong)
Sid Squid
20-09-11, 08:12 AM
Could you pass the 11 plus?
Turns out yes - I still can.
SoulKiss
20-09-11, 08:16 AM
12 out of 15 :)
10, 11 and 15 wrong (actually didnt answer 10 and 11)
Owenski
20-09-11, 08:23 AM
Feck!
I just noticed I never answered 7 or 8!
I should loose further points for not checking my answers before hitting the finish button.
apparently I can, 14 out of 15.
I got 13/15, skipped the two I got 'wrong' because my brain had melted. Not a bad score, but I can see why I failed it back as a kid!
dizzyblonde
20-09-11, 08:45 AM
Pete got 11, and me....well lets just say I am more than qualified to teach any child under the age of four, how to be a brain box in their school life, I am fluent in goo, gaaa, and 1,2,3!
If I'd have had a go before my brain had been 'mummified' and mangled with mind altering drugs, I'd have passed, as I was the class swot through my entire school life.
I think Dylan would sail through, and I am undecided wether to put him through the 11 plus, as he is an extremely bright lad, and excels in Maths and Science, well actually anything.
The schools round here are crap, and the Grammer schools, although fantastic, I feel are rather bullyish, and hes a sensitive lad.
I don't want to hinder his progress in education with a rubbish school, but neither do I want to progress him in a school full of toffs, and bullies.
missyburd
20-09-11, 08:47 AM
I did take it when I was younger but don't actually remember finding out if I passed or not! No idea why, maybe I'd decided that school wasn't for me.
I got 12/15 and that was answering all the questions Owenski ;-)
Geodude
20-09-11, 08:53 AM
Oh dear 9 out of 15 :(
8,9,10,11,13,14 wrong
I do have dyscalculia though, i feel so thick now :(
I did take it when I was younger but don't actually remember finding out if I passed or not! No idea why, maybe I'd decided that school wasn't for me....
hehe well same here. I think it was a case of 'don't call us, we'll call you'.
Specialone
20-09-11, 08:59 AM
13 / 15 the confusing thing for me the ones I expected to get wrong I didn't and got 2 easier ones wrong from just plain rushing cos I'd struggled on the two I didn't get straight away, my brain don't work as quick as it used to I know that :(
dizzyblonde
20-09-11, 09:04 AM
I did take it when I was younger but don't actually remember finding out if I passed or not!
So did I, but my mother decided she wanted us all to carry on life in a church school:smt019
Just one thing - you don't 'pass' or 'fail' the 11+
The grammar schools in the area get together to decide how many places they have (number intended to admit), then all the kids who want to or have pushy parents, sit the test on one given day.
Then the schools take from the top of the outcome list to fill up the places available.
If you want to get into grammar school, make sure everyone else in the area is thick!
kellyjo
20-09-11, 09:51 AM
15 out of 15 in 3 minutes, good to know ive still got it :p
Just one thing - you don't 'pass' or 'fail' the 11+
The grammar schools in the area get together to decide how many places they have (number intended to admit), then all the kids who want to or have pushy parents, sit the test on one given day.
Then the schools take from the top of the outcome list to fill up the places available.
If you want to get into grammar school, make sure everyone else in the area is thick!
thats not entirely accurate for our area. There is a published pass mark in Wirral. If you pass you become elligable for entry to selective schools, the decision on allocation is then based on distance away from the school up to an agreed number, regardless of your individual score. Looks like the rules and entry criteria differ across the country.
We also found out that in our local authority, they only test verbal reasoning. The other 11 plus subjects of English, Maths and non-verbal reasoning are not tested.
This was on the BBC website the other day:-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7773974.stm
a) What did you score?
b) Is the 11 plus REALLY this difficult? I can't imagine a 10/11 year old doing this?
I got 14, probably because I've been tutoring my daughter through these questions for a few months. :-)
Sid Squid
20-09-11, 11:05 AM
If you want to get into grammar school, make sure everyone else in the area is thick!
Worked for me!
EssexDave
20-09-11, 11:39 AM
15/15.
:)
I passed my 11+ so...
slark01
20-09-11, 11:41 AM
Surprised myself got 11/15 :-)
Ste.
phi-dan
20-09-11, 11:55 AM
13 out of 15
Back when I took (and passed) mine your result determined which schools you got to apply to. The results came back with colour coded lists of schools - green for the grammar schools, yellow for high schools, red for comprehensive. We later found out (after my brother "failed" his) that the choice of school was actually influenced by the 10+ exam
Different regions did it differently - when my family moved out of London we were surprised not to have to sit a selection exam, we were just sent to the school nearest home.
Turns out yes - I still can.
Indeed.
missyburd
20-09-11, 01:13 PM
hehe well same here. I think it was a case of 'don't call us, we'll call you'.
Ah, in that case obviously I couldn't be bothered :mrgreen:
So did I, but my mother decided she wanted us all to carry on life in a church school:smt019
Aye same for me, blimmin' mothers eh? Always trying to do right by you ;)
Just one thing - you don't 'pass' or 'fail' the 11+
The grammar schools in the area get together to decide how many places they have (number intended to admit), then all the kids who want to or have pushy parents, sit the test on one given day.
Then the schools take from the top of the outcome list to fill up the places available.
If you want to get into grammar school, make sure everyone else in the area is thick!
Hmm not so the case in our area, if you didn't "achieve the required mark" you didn't get in. Equates to a pass or fail all the same in my book.
Balky001
20-09-11, 01:47 PM
I got 14, used wrong sequence in Q.12, annoying!
Balky001
20-09-11, 01:53 PM
Hmm not so the case in our area, if you didn't "achieve the required mark" you didn't get in. Equates to a pass or fail all the same in my book.
The result is the same but you can't fail the 11+, it's like 'failing' a sperm count, you might not meet the required standard for fertility but you'd still get a score even if 0 (I hope!), not a F ;)
missyburd
20-09-11, 01:58 PM
The result is the same but you can't fail the 11+, it's like 'failing' a sperm count, you might not meet the required standard for fertility but you'd still get a score even if 0 (I hope!), not a F ;)
Sorry, should have put "equates to a pass or a crap mark making one feel inadequate and having to lump it with the thickie schools":rolleyes::mrgreen:
keith_d
20-09-11, 02:12 PM
Fifteen right for me, though I did waste almost a minute on the last sequence looking for something complicated when it was really trivial.
I passed the entry exam for a local private school but failed the interview. Looking back on it, I suspect it was more of a social grading and having divorced parents definitely wasn't trendy at the time.
So I enjoyed the 'pleasures' of a Comprehensive education in what had been the local secondary modern. It had retained much of it's character and original staff. Political dogma really should be kept away from education.
Balky001
20-09-11, 02:16 PM
Sorry, should have put "equates to a pass or a crap mark making one feel inadequate and having to lump it with the thickie schools":rolleyes::mrgreen:
:( don''t feel inadequate over a test you can't fail (joke :)!!!!)
I know what you mean, my daughter goes to grammar school and there is so much pressure to get in and even more to go on to 6th form (equiv to 8 As otherwise booted out, no loyalty!).
Red Herring
20-09-11, 02:28 PM
I scored 14 out of 15 (guessed the last one wrong when I was about to run out of time) and I left school before I was even old enough to take the thing......
However, we invested in getting both our kids tuition specifically to pass the 11 plus so I remembered what's involved. Getting through the 11 plus is like most exams, you just need to understand what they are asking and looking for.
missyburd
20-09-11, 02:29 PM
:( don''t feel inadequate over a test you can't fail (joke :)!!!!)
Nah, not talking about me personally, I wasn't too fussed where I went then. Think my mum just wanted another option :)
On the note of what is needed to "get in" schools, how many folks had to fill out the old "Yes, I attend church regularly" to be accepted into a church school? My ma's a devout CofE'er so we went anyway but I knew so many folk that went for three weeks just to get the vicar to approve the form :rolleyes:
Owenski
20-09-11, 03:21 PM
Parents sent me off for 2hrs every Saturday morning for private tuition in order for me to do well enough to get into Hecky, I hated it at the time but looking back now I realise they defo did the best they could for me. By comparrison my sister who didnt get the same education is now at 30yrs old still working in a Chiquitos, Im an experianced civil engineer less than a year away from been degree qualified... IMO that says a lot about education standards and the enviroment of study. We grew up in the same house with the same parents etc so what else could be credited for that difference.
Those schools such as mine which put pressure on the pupils to get the required grades in order to progress through A levels and uni, often made it sound like that was the only option - anything else was failure.
I have vivid memories of telling my form tutor I wanted to be a pilot in the RAF, before the end of that day I was infront of the head been told I should concentrate on a levels and going to uni. Shows what they know as an officer in the RAF is required to have a degree to enter but thats besides the point, this was the moment I realised that their encouragment to do well in school was more to do with the figures they could boast as opposed to actually having the individuals best interests at heart.
Still the figures dont lie, there was literally a dozen students in my year group who didnt go to onto uni. I was one (attending part time whilst in full time employment instead). With the exception of that dozen literally everybody else did go (most stayed too ;))
EDIT: Add note, Im smart enough to know most folk went to a comp and they've done well out of it too. Im not insisting that a grammar education is the elite, nor that a comp education is below par Im just stating the facts of what I know, im unable to comment on the sucess rate of a comp school as I never attended one - although the wife does work in one and her perception of good grades differs largely from mine.
took this again today after a 4 day break or so, I didnt remember any answers but was just in a better frame of mind. 15 out of 15 with 4 minutes to spare!
*cough* I scored er not many... but I did have 4 mins left.
Passed it in 1970, and went on to be a fully qualified thick person.
Oh dear 9 out of 15 :(
8,9,10,11,13,14 wrong
I do have dyscalculia though, i feel so thick now :(
Not bad considering. I somehow managed to get 12/15 even though I suffer with the same condition. I found the word ones a doddle, but then again I used to love those kind of puzzles when I was a kid
Geodude
21-09-11, 06:48 PM
^ Yay to a fellow numberwanger :D +1 to the word puzzles.
beabert
21-09-11, 07:08 PM
I was going to post this last week, however i am so scared of hiltlering, i hesitate to start a thread these days lol
I got 15 and thought it was easy, but im good at spotting patterns. Im pretty sure id of passed it aged 11 too. I Have always enjoyed this type of stuff.
I completely fail at normal things though, like socialising lol
Geodude
21-09-11, 07:14 PM
Beabert hitlering is a good way for those of us who missed something first time round to catch up and it entertains those who need to shout hitler so post away fella :D
Specialone
21-09-11, 07:23 PM
The hitler thing is only light hearted, if its not on the first page then most people arent gonna scroll through especially if they are newbies.
But if its on the first page then shame on you, you lazy ass for not taking 30 secs to look first :rolleyes:
tigersaw
21-09-11, 07:44 PM
13 - got them all right up to #13, then didnt realise I had used up my time
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