What Car?

[Bluefish]

Audi A4 1.8t sport cabriolet or Saab 2.0ltr vector cabriolet, looking at an 04-05 plate Audi or an 04-55 plate Saab, the Audi is about 300 quid more a year insurance, your thoughts please ladies and gentlemen.

[Electro]

Saab.

[maviczap]

SAAB

Audi's are for reps anf knobheads

Loved my Saab

[andrewsmith]

SAAB

Move along nothing to discuss here!

[ravingdavis]

I wouldn't buy that year of Saab, General Motors had let their accountants get too close to Saab at that point at their build quality was nothing short of utter crap. My Aunty had a Hirsch performance Saab 9-3 and that pretty much reduced itself to its component parts in front of her house.

[fizzwheel]

Audi's are for reps anf knobheads

:(

Actually out of those two neither, Cab's should not be driven by blokes...

Whats actually underneath that SAAB though, its not a Vectra with a different body on is it ?

[DJFridge]

SAAB. Except for the small matter of them being likely to go the way of Rover. If you know a good mechanic, the Saab is a nicer car. If you like main dealers to do your servicing, you might be safer with the Audi. Although, obviously, you will then look like a c0ck.

[sv4me]

Audi's are for reps anf knobheads

We've just got one, and yep i'm a knobhead :smt098

[andrewsmith]

:(

Actually out of those two neither, Cab's should not be driven by blokes...

Whats actually underneath that SAAB though, its not a Vectra with a different body on is it ?

Yep tis a vectra!
The only acceptable one for a bloke is a elise

[fizzwheel]

Yep tis a vectra!

*vomits* so its not a proper SAAB then IMHO.

[Specialone]

The saab is a vectra, the company i used to work for supplied the seat control mechanisms for the convertable seats, they were very poor designs, had quite a few failures as well.

I think the audi will be made better tbh, especially as my company supplied VAG also and all their test requirements / specs were at least 50 % higher than everybody else's.

[Bluefish]

I see a bit of a pattern developing but too early to call yet, my thoughts, we have yet too see a saab up close and personel so to speak, don't seem to be that many for sale round here, but was of the impression that Audi's were maybe of better build quality, not bothered about the sterotype they have company car drivers etc, but want the eventual car to be reliable, cos otherwise both these marques will no doubt cost a fortune to repair, will be going to look at a Saab this weekend, if it's still there.

[Bluefish]

:(

Actually out of those two neither, Cab's should not be driven by blokes...

It's ok Fizz the mrs will be mainly posing in the car, btw what's a proper Saab then? i knew about the vectra chassis.

[andrewsmith]

Andy

Buy an Alfa!

[DJFridge]

*vomits* so its not a proper SAAB then IMHO.

There has been no such thing as a "proper" Saab since the old 900. GM ruined them IMHO.

[Bluefish]

There has been no such thing as a "proper" Saab since the old 900. GM ruined them IMHO.
I get you, they stopped them about 98 yeah?

[fizzwheel]

There has been no such thing as a "proper" Saab since the old 900. GM ruined them IMHO.

Agreed 900 2.0 DOHC 16v Turbo = Proper.

[Bluefish]

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so it's also a cadillac :D

[maxinc]

There has been no such thing as a "proper" Saab since the old 900. GM ruined them IMHO.

A friend of mine is a huge fan of SAAB but after changing 3 models in 4 years, all with premature failures of some sort he has given up on them and got a VW.

Out of the 2 choices I would get the Audi for built quality hands down. I don't really care what other people drive. There's always going to be a **** somewhere driving the same care as you.

[Bluefish]

Andy

Buy an Alfa!
Lend us a few grand mate, and did you miss the reliable bit, they do look good though.

[andrewsmith]

I wish i could afford one!
Wish I could afford a car!!

[BernardBikerchick]

get it get it !!!!! german cars rock !

[punyXpress]

:(

Whats actually underneath that SAAB though, its not a Vectra with a different body on is it ?

Just like the Audi is a Skoda with knickers? ;)

[Reeder]

Mother dearest has owned a 2004 Saab 9-3 aero 2.0T since new and the only thing that's gone wrong is that the rear suspension springs cracked (which is apparently quite common). Otherwise it's been completely reliable and it's quite a nice looking car too :) I'd probably opt for the Saab over the audi tbh.

[-Ralph-]

Neither, quality on both is suspect, but contrary to popular belief the Saab is actually more reliable (less warranty claims) than the Audi. The Saab just feels flimsy.

The Audi A4 conv scored 212 out of 250 cars in the What Car reliability survey, the Saab came 91st

http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/reliability-survey-2011/258307

Overall Saab comes out worse, but Audi is a poor showing too.

If you want reliability, buy Japanese, VAG stuff is good in my experience, but in the main the Germans have the wool pulled over everybody's eyes.

[-Ralph-]

http://www.whatcar.com/NonCar/AC/26711112946.jpg

[Bluefish]

Thanks for that Ralph, makes interesting reading.