Selling a vehicle to EU

[Mr Speirs]

When someone sells their vehicle to an overseas buyer what do you have to do in terms of DVLA?

I know there's the export section but is says 'if you are personally exporting the vehicle' so not sure if that is revelvant.

Is there anyone who has sold their bikes to an EU buyer and can just clarify?

[-Ralph-]

I haven't done it, but looked at it in detail for selling a bike to a friend in Portugal. Most of the work there was the importing bit, not the exporting. All I would have had to do in the UK is fill in the V5 ‘Notification of Permanent Export’.

Phone the DVLA, you'll get much better advice there than on here.

[Mr Speirs]

Phone the DVLA, you'll get much better advice there than on here.

Will do. Closed today though.

[TamSV]

I sold my black SV to a bloke from Ireland. He got the whole V5 and I wrote to DVLA telling them I'd sold the bike to someone outwith the UK, giving them his name and address. They wrote back to confirm within a couple of weeks.

[Mr Speirs]

What? You gave them the entire V5? Not sure that's right is it?

[TamSV]

Yep. :)

Fill in his name and address and then you both sign and date the V5. He gets the whole V5 which he needs to re-register the vehicle in his own country and you send a letter to DVLA.

That's according to their leaflet INS160 "Your Registration Certificate and You" that comes with your V5. I've thrown countless copies in the bin but you can get it online.

[embee]

Don't know on this one, but I'd suggest it's one of those technicality issues.

Are YOU exporting it from the UK? No (unless you are going to do the exporting for them).

Are you selling it within the UK (albeit to someone who isn't a UK resident)? Yes.

Talk to the DVLA, but my guess is technically it's not your problem. Make sure you're not doing someone else's work for them when it's not your problem.

[Mr Speirs]

TamSV thank you!!
The INS160 thing explained everything.

Ta muchly.
Although I'm not sure it's going to be required. I have a sneaky suspicion that my bike is going to be broken for spares.

[Specialone]

You getting rid of FG Chris?

[Mr Speirs]

Nope, Hyper

[Lozzo]

The V5C is just the main part with the details on it, the other part is for notifying DVLA of export, sale to a trader etc. I've sold a few Mitsubishi Evos to a guy in Austria and all they require to register the vehicle there is the front/left inside bit, the tear off sections aren't needed by any licencing authority anywhere because they aren't actually the V5C. It's your responsibility to inform DVLA that the vehicle has been permanently exported and you do that by filling out the third section down (Used to be purple, now blue) on the tear off section and sending it off to DVLA once the vehicle is abroad.

[Specialone]

Nope, Hyper

You suspect they are gonna break the hyper? Are they fecking nuts?

[Lozzo]

Good money in breaking bikes, I do it every day at work.

Currently breaking a 2007 ZZR1400 and a 1991 VFR750, both immaculate. Waiting to be broken is a nice XT600 Tenere, scruffy Bandit 600, nice CB400 Big One, engine damaged ER6F and a few scooters in varying states of disrepair.

[Specialone]

Cant believe they make more money breaking a mint 08 bike.

[Mr Speirs]

Nope, Hyper

You suspect they are gonna break the hyper? Are they fecking nuts?

Just looking through his listings is full of hyper parts.
Termi exhaust £1200
Wheels £1000
Subframes £100
Fuel tank £125
Standard exhaust £200
Swingarm £250
Not to mention brake discs, calipers, engine, fairings, ohlins shock, front forks.
I suspect he'll make a fair bit of money on it.

[Specialone]

Shouldn't be allowed.

If he breaks too many there won't be enough hyper owners to buy the parts he's selling ;)

I'd be gutted if my mint bike got broke up like this.

[Lozzo]

Cant believe they make more money breaking a mint 08 bike.

You make money breaking brand new bikes if you are prepared to take the risk. Breaking a 3 year old one presents less risk as the bike costs less to start with, yet the parts sell for almost as much as ones taken from a new bike.

[Lozzo]

I'd be gutted if my mint bike got broke up like this.

Wouldn't bother me in the slightest - a bike is simply a collection of metal, plastic and rubber.

When I am done with the Versys I'll probably break it myself because it will be worth about 3 times its retail value in parts. It has a lot of miles, but is immaculate when washed and polished. A used engine with 25K sells for about 100 quid less than a used engine with 3K, the rest of the parts sell for exactly the same as those taken from a bike with almost no mileage. It's not the mileage on the rest of the bike, it's the condition, which is why I'm making sure mine stays good.