New winter project

[christian1000]

This weeks trip back home to visit the folks has yielded a new winter project

I was helping to clear out the garage/ loft and came across this box of bits:
http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/christian101986/a41d651f.jpg

Further investigation of surrounding boxes yielded more and more parts. Turns out its my dads first ever motorbike from 1967. He sold it a few years later, but as chance would have it it was traded into my uncles shop about 10 years later in a very sorry state. My dad got it from my uncle with the intention of restoring it, but it's sat in storage ever since :rolleyes:

So it's now my project :grin:

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/christian101986/392ead84.jpg

Need another trip to collect engine/ tank and other stuff as there wasn't enough room in my car. suprisingly the frame and swing arm were in good condition so I cleaned them up and dropped them at a mates bodyshop for painting. They have come up really well :)

Other bits need more work, like the rear mudguard where some idiot welder has bodged repairing a crack really badly

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/christian101986/2d2596e4.jpg

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/christian101986/397913cc.jpg

Hopefully it can be salvaged.

Question is can anybody guess what it is?

[squirrel_hunter]

I've seen frames like that before but can't tell what it is, I'm thinking a Honda, but its really before my time.

Whatever it is I like the project already so keep us updated, and good luck with the build.

[BanannaMan]

It's a Honda CD 90 or CD125.

Looks like great fun.
They are fairly simple to work on. You have a good looking frame and engine parts off later models of the same displacement will work so you should have no trouble getting the bits you need to get her going again.

[christian1000]

It's a Honda CD 90 or CD125.

Looks like great fun.
They are fairly simple to work on. You have a good looking frame and engine parts off later models of the same displacement will work so you should have no trouble getting the bits you need to get her going again.

Not quite, to make things easier its from the same maker as the fabled SV :)

Had a look over the engine, looks like it should be ok all internals don't seem to have any damage. Could do with a new cylinder though as a few of the cooling fins are missing :(

[Owenski]

single coil pack in that box so im guessing its a small single cylinder engine.
AC100?

[Owenski]

or 80cc as the frame is open like this one.
http://www.apnibike.com/bikepics/201004/SUZUKI/80cc/1979//SUZUKI_80cc_B_5947.jpg

[christian1000]

single coil pack in that box so im guessing its a small single cylinder engine.
AC100?

I'm liking the investigating skills spotting the single coil pack....close but not quite.

[Mighty Boosh]

M 12 Cavalier?

[andrewsmith]

M 12 Cavalier?

Thinking same lines

M30 Mokick

edit: thats a scooter

[christian1000]

Haha no its not a scooter.

Ok one last chance, managed to find a picture from back in the day with what condition it used to be...

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/christian101986/dd599dd7.jpg

[BanannaMan]

The bare frame looked so Honda. LOL

Appears to be a 1964 (first year) Suzuki K-11 Sports 80 in the last pic.
(if not I give up)

[Jayneflakes]

Wifey thinks it is a B120. She said something about the pressed steel frame and it being a cheap and reliable way of doing it.

Bless her, full of useful information. :smurfin:

[christian1000]

The bare frame looked so Honda. LOL

Appears to be a 1964 (first year) Suzuki K-11 Sports 80 in the last pic.
(if not I give up)

Ding ding We have a winner :winner:

Hopefully when I've finished it will once again look like that...only shiney and not broken. Just need to work out where everything goes as my dad didnt box/ label anything when it came apart :confused:

Need to draw up a list of bits that need replacing aswell.

[Kenzie]

Was going to have a guess, but it's been guessed now. However the DVLA doesn't give out much info!

The vehicle details for CTC 66E are: Date of Liability 18 05 2012 Date of First Registration 01 04 1967 Year of Manufacture Not Available Cylinder Capacity (cc) 80cc CO2 Emissions Not Available Fuel Type PETROL Export Marker N Vehicle Status Licence Not Due Vehicle Colour RED Vehicle Type Approval Not Available

[christian1000]

Was going to have a guess, but it's been guessed now. However the DVLA doesn't give out much info!

The vehicle details for CTC 66E are: Date of Liability 18 05 2012 Date of First Registration 01 04 1967 Year of Manufacture Not Available Cylinder Capacity (cc) 80cc CO2 Emissions Not Available Fuel Type PETROL Export Marker N Vehicle Status Licence Not Due Vehicle Colour RED Vehicle Type Approval Not Available

Quite suprised there was basic information on there in the first place.

A quick update...


Whilst waiting to go and collect the rest of it this weekend I thought I would give my new Dremel jobby a test drive and had a go at polishing up some of the aluminium parts that I had.

Before

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/christian101986/IMG_0670.jpg


After

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/christian101986/IMG_0680.jpg

They have come up pretty well :D just a fair few more to do...

Collected the engine (along with lots of other grubby looking parts), new cylinder and new cylinder head as the old ones are missing cooling fins. Whipped the old cylinder off before I brought it here as im trying to save space in the man room :rolleyes:.

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/christian101986/IMG_0685.jpg

The new cylinder needs a bit of attention as there is very light corrosion in the bottom of the bore and the outside needs re painting.

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/christian101986/IMG_0687.jpg

Looks like there is similar light corrosion on areas of crank aswell so going to split the cases when my uncle has found the service manual and special tools (flywheel puller) in the depths of his shops storage room, he knew they would come in useful one day ;)

So at the moment everything looks like this....

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/christian101986/IMG_0688.jpg

So so many jobs to do, think a title of winter project was a bit ambitious, probably going to take significantly longer haha

[christian1000]

Also the new exhaust downpipe I have sourced is wrong dispite it being listed as a K11 one. boo :smt022.

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/christian101986/IMG_0683.jpg

Might be adaptable though....maybe?

[christian1000]

Having finished work for Christmas I have been using some of my time wisely getting the chrome parts ready to be sent away to be sorted. When I stripped the exhaust down I discovered the source of the really rubbish running all those moons ago before it was taken apart.

With a bit (read a lot) of persuasion I managed to get the baffle out.

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/christian101986/017fe345.jpg
hmm there's quite a lot of crap coming out of this exhaust....

Get it all the way out to be greeted by this

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/christian101986/361cc436.jpg
The baffle is packed solid with carbon/oily deposits.

No wonder it wouldnt run right there's nowhere for the exhaust gases to go!
Got it soaking in some wd40 to loosen it up the I can try clean it out.

Anybody with 2 stroke experience, is this just a sign of a neglected exhaust/ something that two strokes do, or is it a sign of other problems?

Now I've got the special tools the next job is splitting the engine

[TamSV]

Two stroke exhausts do need regular de-coking. Soaking in caustic soda is the usual recommendation.

You can burn it out but it creates a fair old bit of smoke.

[Sir Trev]

My H100 coked up like that and I have fond memories of my dad coming home to find me burning the carbon out with a blowtorch in the back garden! He was not happy about the mess and smoke! My RXS100 however did not clog up, but then I was doing slightly longer journeys on that at higher speeds.

Think of them like modern diseasal cars - short journeys kill them but longer/flat out blasts let it all get hot and it naturally burns the rubbish off without needing a strip down to manually decoke them.

Good luck with the project.

[Bri w]

Wifey thinks it is a B120. She said something about the pressed steel frame and it being a cheap and reliable way of doing it.

Bless her, full of useful information. :smurfin:

I thought B120 too but wasn't sure they were made that long ago... turns out they were... I'm old

[christian1000]

Two stroke exhausts do need regular de-coking. Soaking in caustic soda is the usual recommendation.

You can burn it out but it creates a fair old bit of smoke.

Horray, I suspected as much...though not so much horray for the caustic soda, dealing with that stuff isnt fun.

Think I may have started the burning process when heating it up to free the baffle, lets just say the Girlfriend wasnt too impressed with the clouds of smoke drifting into the lounge from the back room....

Cheers for the advice, hopefully I will be able to post back with a sucessfully clean exhaust...so long as I havent melted my fingers off with caustic soda.

My H100 coked up like that and I have fond memories of my dad coming home to find me burning the carbon out with a blowtorch in the back garden! He was not happy about the mess and smoke! My RXS100 however did not clog up, but then I was doing slightly longer journeys on that at higher speeds.

Think of them like modern diseasal cars - short journeys kill them but longer/flat out blasts let it all get hot and it naturally burns the rubbish off without needing a strip down to manually decoke them.

Good luck with the project.

Yeah from what I remember my uncle said it had been being used as a daily short commuter when he took it in so all the short trips could be a reason why, also considering the state of the rest of the bike I doubt it has ever been looked at.