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kiggles
01-11-11, 06:21 PM
really want me to stop riding a bike. and other car drivers clearly want me dead. but other car drivers like bikers and pay attention at their steering wheels and use their indicators.

unfortunately all these drivers are no kept separate and are mixed all together so you have to assume they all bad.

last time i take the weekend bike out at rush hour.

kiggles
01-11-11, 06:26 PM
its like them chocolate reavels. you dont know which one is the coffee, but you eat each one carefully, just incase it is the coffee one so you can put it back in the packet

DJ123
01-11-11, 06:45 PM
leets face it, thats half of the fun & challenge of having a motorcycle. The 'us v them' scenarios we face every time we ride. TBF i rarely have trouble when and where i go out. I doubt it's luck of the draw as i go many different places at different times of the day. Prehaps your riding style maybe in need of attention, whether it be extra attention or an assesment of your riding.
And your main problem is already the assumptions your having about the car in front. With any vehicle in front, behind, next to you, at the junction ahead, you need to have a plan of action in your head of how it is going to go. Then a back up plan incase your first plan is not happening.

-Ralph-
01-11-11, 07:39 PM
Got shouted at out of a window when filtering perfectly legally today, one subtle attempt to block me, and two balls out desperate attempts to make sure I wasn't getting past under any circumstances. In a queue to get OUT of the Tesco's car park FFS. I got through anyway.

Why because a car is stuck in traffic and can't get through, does that mean a motorbike shouldn't be permitted to get through either? Never understood that one. What difference does it make to the car driver? He's still stuck in the traffic whether you get through or not. It makes no difference to them.

kiggles
01-11-11, 08:18 PM
i had some woman do the same same to me just before i got home. i was going to rub it in once i managed to get pasted her by riding really slowly. but being on my weekend bike i didn't want any scratches on it.

i been doing IAM test stuff for ages. done think bike etc. They only enforce the law, and add hints on how to ride safer.

but nothing will tell you how to ride in traffic and in london only experience does that. I know this as my dad been riding in london for long time and never done these IAM/think bike courses, yet he makes great progress through london. yet i get left behind in traffic yelling "wait for me"!

myfirstsv
01-11-11, 08:25 PM
I have an app on my phone called Igunz. Which allows you the satisfaction of giving someone a virtual full AK47 mag when they do something stupid.

Haven't figured out how to use it safely on the bike or in the car, but it's brill in the Supermarket when the coffin dodgers ram you with their trolleys. Does wonders for my blood pressure.

DJ123
01-11-11, 08:35 PM
then there in is the answer to your own question-expierence. it cannot be taught, only learnt. You'll only learn it by riding, so carry on doing so!!!!!

BBadger
01-11-11, 09:14 PM
everyones out to get you, every gap already has a car pulling into it and every gap that is just right isnt as some plonker will try and stop you.

If you think like that and ride defensively round london then i have never had any problems.

And to the dad thing its worse when you cant keep up with a gs1200 with a top box through traffic grrrr.

orose
02-11-11, 08:02 AM
London is just a different ball game when you're used to civilisation... every time I've been there on the bike has required far more aggression to make progress than elsewhere in the country.

missyburd
02-11-11, 08:17 AM
Tis rush hour, it's called it for a reason, nobody thinks straight cos they want to get home. And now its dark before 5, everyone's probably having to adjust their driving a little.

My bugbear is car headlights, is it me or are they just getting brighter and brighter, or are folks just using fullbeams all the time lol. A queue of cars going in the other direction and I'm flippin' squinting like crazy.

Stenno
02-11-11, 11:10 AM
Tis rush hour, it's called it for a reason, nobody thinks straight cos they want to get home. And now its dark before 5, everyone's probably having to adjust their driving a little.

My bugbear is car headlights, is it me or are they just getting brighter and brighter, or are folks just using fullbeams all the time lol. A queue of cars going in the other direction and I'm flippin' squinting like crazy.

Ditto about the headlights. My mate left me for dust last night on the ride home from work as I was struggling with some of the dazzle. I couldn't quite work out the distance of the vehicles coming towards me so didn't risk overtaking.

I think progressing also requires a lot of patience. Sometimes I make progress through traffic, othertimes I make the wrong decision and get stuck in it. Swings and roundabouts. If I was in a car I would ALWAYS be stuck in it. Take the good with the bad :)

missyburd
02-11-11, 06:15 PM
Glad it's not just me then, I feel like a dazzled rabbit sometimes.

yorkie_chris
02-11-11, 08:06 PM
really want me to stop riding a bike. and other car drivers clearly want me dead. but other car drivers like bikers and pay attention at their steering wheels and use their indicators.

unfortunately all these drivers are no kept separate and are mixed all together so you have to assume they all bad.

last time i take the weekend bike out at rush hour.

Would you rather be in a car sat still? Or on a bus next to some crackhead who's just sh*t himself?

Didn't think so... carry on!

Stuuk1
02-11-11, 08:38 PM
Rush hour is the fun bit! Commuting in London is great fun to!

I almost went face first in to the back of a transit van at elephant and castle once... This wasn't fun.


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DJFridge
02-11-11, 10:47 PM
Having grown up and learned to drive there, I can assure you it's no fun as a cage-monkey either. I'm glad to be down on the coast. Although the proportion on pensioners who can't see the end of their own bonnet is obviously higher down here!