Bsb go's dutch!!!

[carelesschucca]

Bikesportnews have just released next years schedule for BSB and it includes a round in the Netherlands??? Hope no one wanted to watch the racing at Croft.

Didn't think MSV would let one of their own rounds go.

Suppose I should actually read the article for explanations (haven't actually bothered yet)

http://www.bikesportnews.com/news-detail.cfm?newstitle=Assen-round-included-in-2012-British-Superbike-schedule&newsid=6095

[Mr Speirs]

mmm. Bit weird aint it?
BSB...clues in the name.

And 3 rounds a Brands Hatch? Don't see the point in doing the same circuit twice.

[andrewsmith]

Was only a matter of time before Croft was dropped as its a dying circuit.
3 at Brands is a bit daft as the Friday at the Brands GP's is on the Indy Circuit.

It'll be good to see how close the BSB bikes are to WSB spec times wise at Assen

[carelesschucca]

And 3 rounds a Brands Hatch? Don't see the point in doing the same circuit twice.

Was only a matter of time before Croft was dropped as its a dying circuit.
3 at Brands is a bit daft as the Friday at the Brands GP's is on the Indy Circuit.

As for the 3 round thing there appears to be a lack of top quality tracks in the country. Then again if you owned the series and half of the tracks you'd be putting most of the races on your own tarmac wouldn't ya.

Its sad that Croft is dying, sums up this country though, I wonder how many of the people that complained about the noise moved into the area knowing the track was there. What I've heard it was the owners ex-wife that was one of the more vocal about the noise issue.

Sorry rant over please correct me if my information is wrong!!!

[andrewsmith]

As for the 3 round thing there appears to be a lack of top quality tracks in the country. Then again if you owned the series and half of the tracks you'd be putting most of the races on your own tarmac wouldn't ya.

Its sad that Croft is dying, sums up this country though, I wonder how many of the people that complained about the noise moved into the area knowing the track was there. What I've heard it was the owners ex-wife that was one of the more vocal about the noise issue.

Sorry rant over please correct me if my information is wrong!!!

Touche

MSV own the tracks and run the series.
It was the an ex owner that caused most of it as he didn't get planning permission for a hotel near the circuit

[Mr Speirs]

As for the 3 round thing there appears to be a lack of top quality tracks in the country. Then again if you owned the series and half of the tracks you'd be putting most of the races on your own tarmac wouldn't ya.

By that logic they wouldn't have let one go to Assen at all.
Even so there is only 1 Snetterton yet they could've done a 200 and then the 300.

Mallory has been left out again.

Rockingham is always an option.

Anglesey.

There are plenty of options in the UK to not have to go abroad and would actually benefit the individual circuits and ultimately the UK racing scene and the businesses involved.

What possible reason is there to go to Assen? Unless MSV are planning something?

[littleoldman2]

Croft out is a real shame.
What possible reason is there to go to Assen? Unless MSV are planning something?
Money, bet they have had to pay JP or come up with some sponsorship.

[Berlin]

Money taking the place of patriotism. Damn shame. BSB should be supporting British tracks and the British Bike industry. They should be using all of the tracks instead of several rounds at the ones they own.

But then that's the short sighted outcome when bean counters are in charge. Just wait until the precedent set at Croft affects Brands and their other tracks. Every track in the Uk (and the entire Motorsport industry) should have come out in support against the BS that happened at Croft.(and is presently happening at Elvington) Insidious creep will get them all without complete support.

[andrewsmith]

Also East Fortune has suffered the same with noise restrictions.
Elvingtons are comical as it is

[Daveog]

Croft out is a real shame.

Money, bet they have had to pay JP or come up with some sponsorship.

Who is JP?

Was only a matter of time before Croft was dropped as its a dying circuit.
3 at Brands is a bit daft as the Friday at the Brands GP's is on the Indy Circuit.

It'll be good to see how close the BSB bikes are to WSB spec times wise at Assen

I like the idea of going to Assen, but also feel its a shame that circuits are being dropped off the calendar and losing out. I love having three rounds at Brands as it's only 20 minutes away but I think it's ridiculous when there are so many other tracks round the country. Even two at Brands and two at Cadwell like a few years ago would make more sense.

[Daveog]

Ah, Jonathan Palmer perhaps?

[littleoldman2]

That's right

[Sid Squid]

mmm. Bit weird aint it?
BSB...clues in the name.
True, but there's been a round at Mondello in Ireland more than once.

[Geordie Mick]

This is all very disappointing but sadly predictable. The search for more gimiks (see night racing in F1 and MotoGP) always seems to triumph over supporting fans and lower-level series. I thought they wanted to keep costs down for teams - I know, let's make them get on a ferry and go all the way to Holland for 5 days or whatever.

Mallory's no worse than Cadwell for safety or any of those usual accusations levelled at it but, oh yeah, MSV own Cadwell...

The Croft round has been excellent for many years now. Well run - even the local plod put on some top traffic management to get folk in and out quick and safe - I've been escorted in more than once down the outside of queuing cars. Decidedly better than many an experience at Donington (which I actually quite like, though). Nice track to ride, Croft - if you can ignore the bumps.

As ever, if you don't live near Brands (etc.) then there's not much on. Knockhill's the only feasible option for many fans oop north now, and that's sadly at the mercy of the weather. Even Oulton's a bit of a trek.

Berlin's right, the British series should support bike racing right across GB. The Mondello round was an attempt to give the Northern Ireland fans something (yeah, I know it's not in NI) but it didn't quite work out. We need the tracks to get used, including high profile meetings, to make them more important than the annoyance to the locals many of them are being treated as.:mad:

[andrewsmith]

BSB Circus to East Fortune? :lol:

[Geordie Mick]

Brilliant. 7,000 folk in the tattie field!

[andrewsmith]

:lol:

£50K Bike in piles at railway

[Geordie Mick]

there'd be 5 Melville members out from behind the tyres to rip useful bits off it before Mr. Kiyonari or whoever even knew which way he was pointing. At least he could nip over to the massive car boot sale/market thing for a look round.

[andrewsmith]

there'd be 5 Melville members out from behind the tyres to rip useful bits off it before Mr. Kiyonari or whoever even knew which way he was pointing. At least he could nip over to the massive car boot sale/market thing for a look round.

:winner:

I do apologise to anyone that doesn't know what we're on about!
Anything that falls off a bike in the fields is fair game as its that or the broken combine harvester

[davegixer1300r]

May be it is name change, BHSB with eventually all rounds at brands to make us Northern monkeys travel south.

[Biker Biggles]

We are getting too much vested interest concentrated in too few areas of the sport.Same happened in WSB and look how that went downhill as a spectator event.BSB should be spread about around all the major UK venues and would probably be best served by being run by the sporting body like the ACU or something similar,not the person who owns several tracks.

On the issue of tracks suffering through noise problems I think this is something that wont go away.The political tide is running against noise in general and we will ultimately have to deal with it.That will mean running much more heavily silenced bikes(and cars)at all motor racing events in future.We may not want to hear this message:Dbut we cant avoid it

[andrewsmith]

you mean like Canada and USA's noise limits on race tracks...

89DB :lol:

It means a European Spec Road going 1000 (and most road bikes) would immediately fail a noise test at the circuits.

[Geordie Mick]

that's probably going a bit far, but I think Biggles is right.

If everyone has more silenced bikes, the competition's still the same. Yeah, they won't sound so good, but we'll have to get over that one way or the other. They're heavier ad probably cost a few quid more but if it's that or no racing/trackdays, well... I've packed in using a race can for trackdays now - it's too risky and there's no point if we're honest.

Obviously, once we're all racing silent electric bikes the whingers can shove it up their bums. Until they find something else to moan about (unsightly bikers lurking behind tyre walls devaluing their houses, probably).