Quick question, white or black lid?

[Specialone]

Wife is buying me an enduro lid for xmas but ive gotta order it myself, ive decided on the Airoh S4 as it seems a good lid for the money (dont wanna spend loads as it will get abused while green laning)

I was set on white tbh but having sencond thoughts now, whats peoples thoughts?

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/specialone0055/Airoh-S4-Colour-White-Gloss_390_3NR4N.jpg


http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/specialone0055/Airoh-S4-Colour-Matt-Black_390_3NR4O.jpg

Cheers

[Whyte25]

I like the black one (but that`s just me) :-)

[MJC-DEV]

There is a higher accident rate for those wearing black helmets (due to lower visibility). Office Gov reports on the web if you want to search for yourself.
PS. I have a white helmet, every little helps :)

[NTECUK]

I like the black one.
But being Captain sensible I have a white Lid.

[Dave20046]

There is a higher accident rate for those wearing black helmets (due to lower visibility). Office Gov reports on the web if you want to search for yourself.
PS. I have a white helmet, every little helps :)

I usually go for light lids too, but this is just for green laning and getting to and from on a crosser (so 10foot tall anyway) I'm guessing. Whatever you prefer, I'd go for black personally.

[Mr Speirs]

There is a higher accident rate for those wearing black helmets (due to lower visibility). Office Gov reports on the web if you want to search for yourself.
PS. I have a white helmet, every little helps :)

Did a google search can't find anything. Can you post a link.

[Specialone]

I actually prefer the look of the white lid tbh, but i know from my partial arai road lid, it does get dirty quick.

Looks like peeps are saying white :cool:

[NTECUK]

Black shows the dirt more.Ask anyone with a black bike or car.Bazzar ant it:confused:

[Specialone]

Black shows the dirt more.Ask anyone with a black bike or car.Bazzar ant it:confused:


Ive have / had two black bikes, i think they look ace, no other colour looks as good when polished up.

This is a matt black lid btw so will never look shiny.

[Teejayexc]

Looks like neither come with breathing apparatus for underwater excursions :rolleyes:, perhaps look for one with a snorkel attachment ?

:)

[Dicky Ticker]

White lid and black and white chequer tape=====might avoid the odd car jack;););)

[Sid Squid]

Is there a difference in the price?

[Specialone]

Is there a difference in the price?

Nope

[Reeder]

Black. That white looks tacky

[Sid Squid]

Nope
Well definately the white one then 'cos Reeder says black and it must therefore be the wrong option.

[Dave20046]

White one

[NTECUK]

Black. That white looks tacky

How do you qualify that statement.
:confused:

[Specialone]

Well definately the white one then 'cos Reeder says black and it must therefore be the wrong option.

Good call, I've ordered white :)

[Reeder]

How do you qualify that statement.
:confused:

Because I don't like it. It makes it look cheap and that's my opinion...

[Sid Squid]

that's my opinion...
And make no mistake - your opinion was an important part of the decision making process.

[Reeder]

Glad I could be of service.

[maviczap]

Glad I could be of service.

Glad to see you've been of some use today, tucked up in the warm & dry

Unlike the hardcore EAR riders ;)

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=172218&page=17

[MJC-DEV]

Originally Posted by MJC-DEV http://forums.sv650.org/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?p=2636699#post2636699)
There is a higher accident rate for those wearing black helmets (due to lower visibility). Office Gov reports on the web if you want to search for yourself.
PS. I have a white helmet, every little helps :smile:
Did a google search can't find anything. Can you post a link.

British Medical journal or Direct.Gov and others

http://www.bmj.com/content/328/7444/857.full?sid=56823197-4b00-48fb-8592-c1a8d225a479

Quote:
Compared with wearing a black helmet, use of a white helmet was associated with a 24% lower risk (multivariate odds ratio 0.76, 0.57 to 0.99). Self reported light coloured helmet versus dark coloured helmet was associated with a 19% lower risk.

[SV Mad]

Originally Posted by MJC-DEV http://forums.sv650.org/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?p=2636699#post2636699)
There is a higher accident rate for those wearing black helmets (due to lower visibility). Office Gov reports on the web if you want to search for yourself.
PS. I have a white helmet, every little helps :smile:
Did a google search can't find anything. Can you post a link.

British Medical journal or Direct.Gov and others

http://www.bmj.com/content/328/7444/857.full?sid=56823197-4b00-48fb-8592-c1a8d225a479

Quote:
Compared with wearing a black helmet, use of a white helmet was associated with a 24% lower risk (multivariate odds ratio 0.76, 0.57 to 0.99). Self reported light coloured helmet versus dark coloured helmet was associated with a 19% lower risk.

There's also a higher risk if you ride a bike to a car, or a car to a bus, or a bus to a plane. You could go on trying to risk reduce forever. IMHO go with what you like best.

I think if you check, something along the lines of 76% of statistics are made up.....

[MJC-DEV]

Your point being?
If you like black wear black, it was just information not a recommendation.

[Amplimator]

I have a black one of those with both tinted and clear visor. Off-road defo better with goggles (to prevent misting) and remove peak for road use (to avoid vibrations caused by peak catching wind over 50mph). They are an OK lid, but I wouldnt buy another as they dont do any one thing well (road or enduro)

I would buy one of these (http://www.denniswinter.com/off-road-c1/riding-gear-c27/helmets-c42/acerbis-2012-active-dual-sport-helmet-p617) instead.

[Specialone]

I have a black one of those with both tinted and clear visor. Off-road defo better with goggles (to prevent misting) and remove peak for road use (to avoid vibrations caused by peak catching wind over 50mph). They are an OK lid, but I wouldnt buy another as they dont do any one thing well (road or enduro)

I would buy one of these (http://www.denniswinter.com/off-road-c1/riding-gear-c27/helmets-c42/acerbis-2012-active-dual-sport-helmet-p617) instead.

Hadnt seen that one before.
This is purely for green laning for me, im gonna try and get a pinlock for the misting and hopefully it will be good.

Im using my first cheap lid atm so it cant be worse than that (i hope)

[Amplimator]

Dont get me wrong they are not a bad lid at all I use mine for green lanes with goggles, but they are not great either.

[Mr Speirs]

Originally Posted by MJC-DEV http://forums.sv650.org/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?p=2636699#post2636699)
There is a higher accident rate for those wearing black helmets (due to lower visibility). Office Gov reports on the web if you want to search for yourself.
PS. I have a white helmet, every little helps :smile:
Did a google search can't find anything. Can you post a link.

British Medical journal or Direct.Gov and others

http://www.bmj.com/content/328/7444/857.full?sid=56823197-4b00-48fb-8592-c1a8d225a479

Quote:
Compared with wearing a black helmet, use of a white helmet was associated with a 24% lower risk (multivariate odds ratio 0.76, 0.57 to 0.99). Self reported light coloured helmet versus dark coloured helmet was associated with a 19% lower risk.

Jolly good, but circumstantial rather than absolute. Forgetting that it's a study dating from 1993-1996 conducted in Auckland NZ.

It's doesn't say black helmets it says darker coloured helmets.

Is it not more likely that there are far more Dark Coloured helmets in use than White helmets?

[Ed]

Black. That white looks tacky

+1

[Lozzo]

Originally Posted by MJC-DEV http://forums.sv650.org/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?p=2636699#post2636699)
There is a higher accident rate for those wearing black helmets (due to lower visibility). Office Gov reports on the web if you want to search for yourself.
PS. I have a white helmet, every little helps :smile:
Did a google search can't find anything. Can you post a link.

British Medical journal or Direct.Gov and others

http://www.bmj.com/content/328/7444/857.full?sid=56823197-4b00-48fb-8592-c1a8d225a479

Quote:
Compared with wearing a black helmet, use of a white helmet was associated with a 24% lower risk (multivariate odds ratio 0.76, 0.57 to 0.99). Self reported light coloured helmet versus dark coloured helmet was associated with a 19% lower risk.

Utter cobblers.

My last five bikes and my last four helmets have been black... Hovis (RIP) was wearing a yellow helmet and rode a bright yellow bike - I'm not dead, therefore a black helmet and bike are safer.

[NTECUK]

Most bods ride with a headlamp on .if they cant spot that your lid isn't going to help I fear.

[Specialone]

Jolly good, but circumstantial rather than absolute. Forgetting that it's a study dating from 1993-1996 conducted in Auckland NZ.

It's doesn't say black helmets it says darker coloured helmets.

Is it not more likely that there are far more Dark Coloured helmets in use than White helmets?

Could it also be influenced by fashion changes?
Bikes used to be more colourful, things have toned down a bit, black lids, bikes and clothing are popular lately so this will fudge figures imo.

Ive ordered white anyway :rolleyes:

[Lozzo]

Most bods ride with a headlamp on .if they cant spot that your lid isn't going to help I fear.

They only see you if they actually look your way.

In all seriousness, I've found that wearing all black and riding an all black bike to be safer. I'm told I'm silhouetted against everything else out there. Look down a typical street at any time of day and its a sea of different colours with reds, greens, blues, dayglos and all sorts in there. Now imagine a black blob moving across that wall of colour... that's me on my bike.

[missyburd]

They only see you if they actually look your way.

In all seriousness, I've found that wearing all black and riding an all black bike to be safer. I'm told I'm silhouetted against everything else out there.

YC firmly sticks to this theory too. I used to have a black lid, I've now made a compromise and got a silver, black and white one. I ride more at night at the moment, if I was stupid enough to ride without my headlight on then clearly wearing a black lid would be of no benefit whatsoever ;) but it makes not difference what colour it is at night with the light on. And as for riding in the day, a black helmet and clothing make for a far more obvious recognizable shape than white, particularly in bright sunny conditions. In my opinion anywho.

Just out of interest, why don't they add reflective strips to helmets? It could be done in an attractive manner I'm sure. Is it just a given that the clothing a biker wears should have reflective bits?

[NTECUK]

I guess you can put a sticker on fiber lids if you want too.

[-Ralph-]

I would buy one of these (http://www.denniswinter.com/off-road-c1/riding-gear-c27/helmets-c42/acerbis-2012-active-dual-sport-helmet-p617) instead.

Hmmm, I'll have to look at those. Tried the new one from Spada, but it doesn't fit. At the end of the day though, the helmet I use for green laning does the job, it just doesn't look the part.

Looks like neither come with breathing apparatus for underwater excursions :rolleyes:, perhaps look for one with a snorkel attachment ?

:)

That would be me that needs those features. Specialone just needs a built in swear filter, and perhaps a pair of waders.

[paiste]

Wise choice Phil. I would've give for white too!

[Specialone]

That would be me that needs those features. Specialone just needs a built in swear filter, and perhaps a pair of waders.


B******* you ******* cheeky b****** !!! :)

I don't swear, against my religion.

[-Ralph-]

I don't swear, against my religion.

hahahaha

Wanna watch this again with the volume up?? I've heard of plausible deniability, but this ain't the occasion :smt046

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnXiGDRF8lM

[Dave20046]

hahaahhaa!

[Specialone]

That was clearly somebody off camera, you don't actually see me curse do you ?

[Dave20046]

Is that you on the bike Phil?
reminded me of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq2DNu66AD8

[Specialone]

No, that's ralph riding, I'm the mug who had to get wet to help him out.

[Dave20046]

:lol:

[-Ralph-]

They were goading me on to do it, I fancied my chances, and Phil just wanted to see if I could, so I made Phil promise he'd wade in and help pull me out if I got stuck. :lol:

Wasn't expecting an 18 inch hole in the river bed though, I have to admit. I've still got a headlight full of water, and it's sealed unit so it can only get in the back where the bulb screws in. That shows how deep it was at the front of the bike, and the XT has a 21 inch front wheel and long front forks!

[Ed]

I ride more at night at the moment, if I was stupid enough to ride without my headlight on...

...you'd crash cos you couldn't see where you're going;)

Reeder and I have fine taste:thumbsup: The rest of you, well you disappoint:D

[Reeder]

High fiveeeeeeee