Help me with a Christmas Pressie

[Owenski]

Brother in Law is just getting into tinkering with his Land Rover.
I've been asked by the in laws to find him a decent bit of tool related kit for £30....
I laughed at decent and £30 as well.

Once you've stopped laughing can you type any suggestions/links etc.

It HAS to be tool related - Thats my only instruction.

FTR:
HE HAS NOTHING! He currently borrows all his dads old rusty stuff, he literally goes round there to the borrow a screwdriver!!!
Ive said he should start with a tool box but in honesty for £30 he'd be better off with a sandwitch box.

Most useful £30 item I can think of is this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DRAPER-30357-RATCHET-TORQUE-WRENCH-40-210NM-1-2-/190340239675?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item2c5129913b

Can you think of anything betteR?

[missyburd]

Or a Haynes Manual and take him on a trip to Rufforth?

[andrewsmith]

Set of 1/2" sockets as you can get drapers and a few more for £30.

I'd say the Haynes is the best start and a snap-on or teng catalogue

[Owenski]

Or a Haynes Manual and take him on a trip to Rufforth?

I suggested they get a manual, but apperantly its all online and he gets it all from there.
I find that understandable with the menial stuff he's undertaken so far but if he's going to get serious then a proper manual would be essential.
Good shout, I'll put it forward again.

Rufforth has been suggested but he runs his pub in Derbyshire, finishing there at 1am to be at mine for 7.30am seem a little harsh.

I've said to him previously if he needs anything then to give me until the first Saturday of the month, if I cant find it there then he can source one (of what ever it is) online.

[Tim in Belgium]

Multi meter!

[Owenski]

Thats actually a good one!

[JamesMio]

Set of half decent screwdrivers would come in much less than that - I've got these:

http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en&safe=off&q=elora+screwdrivers&gs_upl=43027l46972l1l47056l18l16l0l0l0l0l287l3439l 0.4.11l15l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&biw=926&bih=757&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=9307683986988720181&sa=X&ei=K03rTvTICcjj8AOxm_33CQ&ved=0CG8Q8wIwAA

And they're actually really good - just as good as the Stanley ones I bought years ago. As a general rule, standard Draper stuff is crap - utter rubbish. Draper Expert tends to be Ok, and the Elora stuff is actually German and of a good quality.

Has he got a garage? If so, what about some wall mounted peg boards, again I've got these:

http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp?PID=150591&Referrer=froogle

and they're fine - was a bit concerned about the strength of the plastic but in all honesty, they're absolutely fine.

[TamSV]

Brother in Law is just getting into tinkering with his Land Rover.


This (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_53 0655_langId_-1_categoryId_165469) and this (http://www.diy.com/nav/fix/handtools-storage-workwear/handtools/hammers/B-and-Q-4Lb-Club-Hammer-Hickory-Handle-11247835).

[_Stretchie_]

What land Rover?

The reason I ask is that is may be a good idea to get him some 'special' tools, they may hardly ever come out but pay for themselves in that first use just because they make things easier, especially if he can easily borrow a socket set.

Things like a viscous fan spanner, a hub box spanner or a prop removal tool may all come in for £30 together and they are much harder to borrow than a socket set but by god they make a given job MUCH easier

[BigBaddad]

Halfords pro range http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SearchCmd?langId=-1&storeId=10001&catalogId=10151&categoryId=165572&action=listrefine&constraints=teq%7c%7cRange%7c%7cHalfords+Professio nal%7c%7csor%7c%7cPrice%7c%7c1

Ratchet spanners £30
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_72 4259_langId_-1_categoryId_165572

[ian505050]

Halfords pro range

[_Stretchie_]

Those ratchet spanners are great, mine have had PLENTY of use

[gruntygiggles]

May I point out that it matters not if he can get all manual information online...there is nothing as useful as having the book with you resting on the engine or floor where you work. Yes, you can print out what you find online, but then you have paper all over the place and trust me when I say, if, during any of the many many hours of work Stretchie has done on our landy he had been using paper instead of a book that won't fly away...I'd have listened to A LOT more rants...lol.

So, I would advise he get a Haynes.

I would also agree that if he can easily borrow the "normal" tools, it would be more useful for him to have the specialist tools that Stretchie mentioned....because I have had to witness the spanner throwing tantrums from when he didn't have those tools and then seeing how easy his life was when he got them!

Good luck to him, doing the work yourself saves you lots of money...but he's going to spend what he saves on labour charges on building a tool set! :-)

[myfirstsv]

Look out for a Car repair van with the logo

"No tools are kept in this vehicle overnight"

Oh yes they are.

You could make his Christmas with all the goodies, though it would spoil someone else' and you could end up in the Big House. But it shows thought and consideration about his prezzie as opposed to a Halfords gift voucher

[BigBaddad]

One thought, Landrovers..........AF or metric.

[squirrel_hunter]

One thought, Landrovers..........AF or metric.

Both.

[andrewsmith]

One thought, Landrovers..........AF or metric.

Both.

Are up to Tata wielding the common sense stick (bets on they'd still be doing it)

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[_Stretchie_]

One thought, Landrovers..........AF or metric.
Both.

This is why I asked about WHICH Land Rover. Mainly metric but for example on my Disco the body mounting bolts are imperial and if he wants to fit some tree and/or rock slider he'll need to undo these.

Yes, you can print out what you find online, but then you have paper all over the place and trust me when I say, if, during any of the many many hours of work Stretchie has done on our landy he had been using paper instead of a book that won't fly away...I'd have listened to A LOT more rants...lol.

So, I would advise he get a Haynes.


I have to agree with this. I'm guessing he has downloaded the RAVE manual which is awesome, but you can't beat having the book. But he has specifically said he doesn't want one so let him buy his own when he gets around to it ; )

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This might be the best option

; )

[tactcom7]

If its an oldy then may i suggest a decent wire brush for getting rid of all the rust?

A decent lump hammer and a chisel and a punch plus a nylon faced one for the more delicate bits...

Or simply a jack and set of axle stands...

A big breaker bar??

[Owenski]

Its a defender, TD5 IIRC I couldnt tell you the year or much more than that other than its a mutts nuts one.
Formally run by landrover on their experiance days its wanted for nothing, its fully tricked up.
We visited a place near Doncaster for the day shortly after he picked it up and it proved to be a real crowd gatherer, plenty of entusiasts coming and asking "where did you get x from" even questions coming in over the CB Radio. The winch though was the biggest croud pleaser rescuing someone from a massive bog.

Thats enough smoke blown up its ass, Im taking Stretchies advice and leaving the manual for now he said he didnt want one so let him learn for himself that a manual is a must. In the mean time on the tools front the ratchet spanners from Halfords seem a good shout, especially as its a great first stepping stone towards a full tool set.

[_Stretchie_]

Or simply a jack and set of axle stands...

A big breaker bar??

Jack and axle stands for £30? Big breaker bar would come in useful though.

TD5 eh? You could buy him an injector wiring harness or he may end up with oil in the ECU, but that's about £40.

I've got to say though I LOVE my ratchet spanners, an impact driver would also be a good shout and they are about £15

[Owenski]

It doesnt need axle stands or a jack. Its got a wierd sort of tube bolted to the side with mulitple holes for connecting this device which is bolted down in the back some sort of rathchet operated lifting bar. Pop one end in one of the holes and the other end of the floor, then go nuts with the ratchet and it lifts the whole thing over. Gives plenty of room to swap a wheel etc.
Its been jacked right up to have silly ground clearence so few conventional jacks are suitable.

[gruntygiggles]

He has one of these then...a high lift Jack. I LOVE them...hmmm...I want one!

http://jeepin.com/features/revolvers/revolver5.jpg

[gruntygiggles]

It doesnt need axle stands or a jack. Its got a wierd sort of tube bolted to the side with mulitple holes for connecting this device which is bolted down in the back some sort of rathchet operated lifting bar. Pop one end in one of the holes and the other end of the floor, then go nuts with the ratchet and it lifts the whole thing over. Gives plenty of room to swap a wheel etc.
Its been jacked right up to have silly ground clearence so few conventional jacks are suitable.

From the way you describe it, the vehicle has everything, so yes, I would go with the ratchet set as they have helped Stretchie out many a time.

I didn't read very well about the manual, so yeah...prob best he figures that one out himself ;-)

Just another thought of a few cheap bits you can add to a gift if he is going to be taking it off road at all...

A spray bottle to put water in and spray the windows...and numberplates
A window cleaner thingy to then remove water and mud from windows, like this...
http://www.philipmorrisdirect.co.uk/images/db/leifheit-powerslide-window-cleaner-squeegee-i4c8224935812d.jpg

Reason I mention these is that you can easily wash the mud off your front and rear windscreens with the washers...but if you've been splashing about, you also need to be able to see through your windows, use your wing mirrors and have clean numberplates before getting off the byways and back onto the roads, so a spray bottle and squeegy thing are ace!

[Paul the 6th]

3 of these for a tenner: http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_26 3987_langId_-1_categoryId_165547

I've always had one under my pillion seat with a fixerpeg.. Great for odd jobs around the house as well.. Not exactly a big heavy duty mofo but it's small and cheap enough to stay in the glovebox, and the tools aren't made of cheesium either :thumbsup: get them at halfords :)

[Owenski]

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/9/3/4e382e74-a719-4cad-9d27-4496cccfa345.jpg

[_Stretchie_]

Going to need something a little bit bigger than that

; )

Your normal jack (of a fitting weight rating before anyone gets clever) will be fine for lifting the corner to get a wheel off but if he needs to jack it up from the chassis it's a different storey.. : ) Sounds, like Grunty said, like he's got a Hi lift jack, I want one but currently only got two holes at the front that can accomodate one.

[Paul the 6th]

I appreciate it's a dinky little toolcase but it'll be great for dinky little electrical jobs? And cheap... and as said, great for house jobs :D

[Paul the 6th]

Oh and if he ever needs help freeing a stuck starter motor bending a panel back into shape, there's this hammer which is part of a gift set - complete with toffee. What more could you want!

http://www.britishdelights.com/images/tf07.jpg

Or failing that get him a years paid membership to LandyZone (http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/) forums (bit like the org but for landrovers and with members who've got more sense than money - buy a landcruiser! If it's good enough for the taliban...)

[BernardBikerchick]

early learning centre \??

[Owenski]

sORTed!
Picked up the ratchet set last night.
Had to ask about them though, they're no longer display items (iphone to the rescue). I looked and saw nothing on the shelves so reverted back to my iphone to check stock at another store before setting off and it told me the store I was in had them in stock.. so I asked and TA-DA they appeared from a tray hidden under the shelves.

Loving the lifetime guarantee on thier gear, may have to start buying all my stuff from there too.

They also had a set of flexi head ones on offer reduced from £80 down to £40... may well be popping back for those for meeeeee.

[Paul the 6th]

This halfords?

[_Stretchie_]

Or failing that get him a years paid membership to LandyZone (http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/) forums (bit like the org but for landrovers and with members who've got more sense than money - buy a landcruiser! If it's good enough for the taliban...)

I'd say that a Land Crusier would probably be the cheaper option, would require less fixing

; )

sORTed!
Picked up the ratchet set last night.


Cool, let us know if he likes them

[Paul the 6th]

Fackin hell. Mongy brain time. Fug off christmas..