protect what you've got

[kwak zzr]

I must say over the years my security has gone sloppy tbh i never bothered, a week ago my neighbour was woke in the night to find my garage door up and my mountain bike gone :-( little dude i know the scum were eyeing up my gixer :-( last Tuesday 9:15am i had a phone call at work and the gits had tried again :-( my house and garage now are well protected!! Protect what you have, lock it or loose it! The scum are watching.

Kwak zzr

[AZZ3R]

Our garage is like the lock on Die Hard 1.

CCTV in the local area ? Might be worth buying a dummy & sticking a couple on the house & garage?

[ogden]

Lock it? Is that all? My new toy's getting a tracker.

[kwak zzr]

They waited for all the neighbours to go to work before they had a go! 9:15 in the
morning

[Specialone]

The rozzas were knocking everyones doors on my road today and the road behind us, there had been a spate of thefts from sheds and garages the last few weeks apparently and they have caught 3 lads doing it.

He asked us to check the sheds etc for signs of break in, were safe i think.

Message to anyone breaking into my garage, i will find you.

[Mrs DJ Fridge]

Happening all over at the moment, in our area they are breaking into the houses just to steal the car and bike keys and then driving them off, it is a pain having to hide the keys every night, but worth it coz who wants to look out of their window in the morning and see no vehicles there.

[Geodude]

Thieving scum, bring back lashes or the stocks :mad:

[kiggles]

last week people two doors down were robbed as well. and to the person who bought a tracker. police wont chase that up even if you know where it is. there has been another thread on that reguarding that issue. unless you plan to trespass to get you bike back and probably have a fight or two.

[kwak zzr]

I dare them to try now! The community support officer said i should remove the spik
es lol

[AZZ3R]

It's actually concerning how many people's proppertys are being broken into. Thing is, it will always happen unless you live completly out of the way, but then thats impractical.

[tom-k6]

in fairness, i think living out the way gives you a higher chance of people breaking in due to no witnesses etc.
im glad all the bikes are in sheds in back yard and only way out is through a narrow alley between houses and i can barely get the angle right to get out myself haha. got alarms in the shed anyway, and motion lights

[AZZ3R]

Thats true but there is some benefits & disadvantages. Got a friend who has just moved up to Lancaster, Insurance has gone up but, theft rate is lower & a nicer area.

[ogden]

last week people two doors down were robbed as well. and to the person who bought a tracker. police wont chase that up even if you know where it is. there has been another thread on that reguarding that issue. unless you plan to trespass to get you bike back and probably have a fight or two.

I'm not convinced.

For one, it won't be one of those shonky track-it-yourself GPS-based units, it'll be a Tracker one which police vehicles are equipped to locate.

For another, one of my bikes was nicked a month or so ago and when I called up to report it gone, one of the first questions I was asked was "does it have a tracker?" Do you think they asked that straight away because it'd mean they might stand a realistic chance of finding it quickly, or just to tick a box on the report form?

Personally, I think it's at least worth trying. Not just to protect my possession, but if theres a chance it'll lead the dibbles to catching thieves
red-handed, that's the kind of pleasure you can't put a price on.

[tom-k6]

but the police track it, recover it (£100) store it (£12 per day).....

[ogden]

but the police track it, recover it (£100) store it (£12 per day).....

You clearly don't have the *faintest* idea what you're on about.

The police track it and locate it. Tracker send a uniformed guard to stay with it until the recovery guys turn up, collect it, and deliver it to a location of my choosing.

It costs me nothing beyond the installation and annual subscription.

[tom-k6]

so if the tracker/tracking company send a uniformed guard out, what are the police there for?
can you access the tracker signal yourself with the use of say a google maps app or gps device?

[Specialone]

Actually i didnt realise tracker did that either, i thought they just found it, well you learn something every day :)

[Bluefish]

What's the cost's for the tracker?

[AZZ3R]

You'd rather pay for it to be tracked & a possibilty to be recoverd, than to have lost it ?

If it mean getting my bike back i'd pay the fee's.

[ogden]

so if the tracker/tracking company send a uniformed guard out, what are the police there for?

The uniformed guard is there to make sure that once the police have located it, it doesn't get nicked before it's recovered.

can you access the tracker signal yourself with the use of say a google maps app or gps device?

No. It's not a GPS receiver. If I notice it's gone, I call Tracker. If the bike moves without my knowledge, Tracker call me and I confirm it's not me. They then activate the tracking device which starts to emit a signal that can be picked up by any receiver within about five miles - plod car, helicopter, that kind of thing. It works underground, it works inside a building, it works inside a container. I call the dibbles, tell them it has a tracker, they get to work.

That's the pitch, anyway. Whether the reality matches remains to be seen (and obviously I hope not to have to find out) but the last I heard of their audited recovery rates was something like 95% recovered, including bikes. That's significantly better than the overall average.

[ogden]

What's the cost's for the tracker?

300-odd quid for the device, 150 a year for the service..

[kiggles]

i try find thread on here that there was a discussion about trackers on bikes. even if you can locate the bike to its position the police still need a warrant, and need to go through the courts, for a bike worth around £5000 the police would rather probably use their resources on something else. And they probably have thousands of thefts to deal with why would they put your bike to top of the list.

i am only remembering what someone else has said on forum. I only remember it because i was annoyed as if i knew where my bike is but not being able to do anything about it. despite paying tax's etc. Its not different to people selling alarms on your house which are supposedly connected to the police so if alarm goes off police are there in an instant.

[Specialone]

300-odd quid for the device, 150 a year for the service..


Have you seen a difference in insurance premiums?
Be interested to see if it does make a real difference.

[ogden]

You'd rather pay for it to be tracked & a possibilty to be recoverd, than to have lost it ?

If it mean getting my bike back i'd pay the fee's.

Quite. I've had two bikes nicked. The second one was nicked twice - first time I got it back when two dibbles out for a walk found it purely by chance at 3am and took it back to the nick for me.

I'd rather get the bike back than take the hit on the insurance. Once you've taken the excess, inconvenience, additional expenses and the sheer bloody annoyance into consideration, there's more to losing a bike than just putting in a claim and getting a cheque to buy a new one, as anyone who's been in the situation will almost certainly testify.

[ogden]

Have you seen a difference in insurance premiums?
Be interested to see if it does make a real difference.

From having a tracker fitted, no. Cat1 alarms and immobilisers still seem to be the only things that really make much of a difference, and that ranges from being enough of a discount to cover the cost of the unit in a couple of years, to being the difference beween getting a quote and not getting one at all.

From having a bike nicked, yes. I had two bikes on separate policies. I now have two bikes on one policy, because I no longer have the NCD from the other one, and the hassle and cost of arranging a multi-bike policy significantly outweighs the simplicity and cost of getting two separate policies.

[ogden]

i try find thread on here that there was a discussion about trackers on bikes.

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=173029

Note that was a GPS-based tracker, not quite the same thing. I've picked the product carefully - it may or may not result in the service expected, and obviously it depends on available resources, but I'd prefer to try than not.

This is a dry but relevant read:

http://www.securedbydesign.com/pdfs/stolen_vehicle_book.pdf

[Urbanfireblade]

I bought 2 small Yale rape alarms that will be attached to the bike so when the cover is removed it'll pull the pin out and set them puppies off. Its a good idea because in their idle state they use no power so batteries last forever, and they are stand-alone so won't drain the bike battery. Here's the ones i bought, very good, they measure 50x35x10mm, so can be hidden anywhere on the bike, being smaller than a match box.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220898177992

[DarrenSV650S]

Message to anyone breaking into my garage, i will find you.

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[Specialone]

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Yep exactly, But the scrotes around this area are stupid, they would try and sell stuff locally, id only have to ask a handful of people to keep an ear out and id find out.

[tom-k6]

Yep exactly, But the scrotes around this area are stupid, they would try and sell stuff locally, id only have to ask a handful of people to keep an ear out and id find out.

they are that stupid, they would think "oh he has a bike, lets ask him if he wants some cheap wheels etc" and try to sell you your own stuff

[Bluefish]

personally I would not want it back, unless undamadged, not likely is it?, I'd sooner claim on the gap insurance and buy another bike, maybe a nice Curvy ;)

[ogden]

for a bike worth around £5000 the police would rather probably use their resources on something else

I missed that bit. £5000? You've clearly not bought a new bike recently.

Double it, then see if a decent tracker sounds like a sensible investment.

[kwak zzr]

i'm in the progress of making my garage a fort! any ideas glady appreciated.

[AZZ3R]

14ft brick walls, a draw bridge possibly robotic sharks & a dog that won't shut up barking?

I'd have thought adding dummy cameras will make them think twice.

[maviczap]

14ft brick walls, a draw bridge possibly robotic sharks & a dog that won't shut up barking?

I'd have thought adding dummy cameras will make them think twice.

Them WiFi security cameras are getting cheaper & cheaper so why not have a real one set up and running in the garage.

Would need to have infra red to film in darkness & leave your router on all the time, as they send the pictures to a remote storage file for you to access. They can even send it to your phone.

You can even adapt a Webcam to do this, but they'll need a good light source.

Or a proper CCTV set, they aren't to expensive.

[AZZ3R]

Them WiFi security cameras are getting cheaper & cheaper so why not have a real one set up and running in the garage.

Would need to have infra red to film in darkness & leave your router on all the time, as they send the pictures to a remote storage file for you to access. They can even send it to your phone.

You can even adapt a Webcam to do this, but they'll need a good light source.

Or a proper CCTV set, they aren't to expensive.

I always thought good CCTV was close the the tripple figure mark so I opted & got a cheaper 1.

CCTV wired up to the garage and a sensor light, soon as light comes on the camera has great quality, Never had the chance to use them (thankfully).

[kwak zzr]

ive got a black and white camera on my driveway but that was for when i had my bmw lol, no one would want to nick my current cage lol