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-Ralph-
26-01-12, 10:04 PM
OK, the guy is a thieving git for sure, but is he technically stealing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27NX_MMIkLY&feature=fvwrel

27NX_MMIkLY

He told them he wasn't ordering anything, then he said nothing more and they gave him the food.

I guess it's fraud maybe, he obtained something by deception?

Surely they'll have his reg on CCTV, thats assuming they figure out how they c0ck3d up and report a crime though.

andrewsmith
26-01-12, 10:08 PM
Excellently executed!

Couldn't hit the same one too often

Kilted Ginger
26-01-12, 10:09 PM
Yes.

Souldude
26-01-12, 10:11 PM
Yes, receiving goods he did not pay for or intend to pay for. Maybe when Mcdonalds see this they will revise there giving food out without showing a receipt policy. My guess is it happens rarely and they will ignore it.

Stuuk1
26-01-12, 10:12 PM
That's very good...


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speedplay
26-01-12, 10:12 PM
Yes.

Burn the French thief!!

metalmonkey
26-01-12, 10:13 PM
Is bin diving stealing? I'm sure some people have done it...

Yeah its theft if you actually think about the theft act and what it says, under UK law. If your hungry don't get caught eh!

Souldude
26-01-12, 10:14 PM
Whats bin diving?

Kilted Ginger
26-01-12, 10:16 PM
Is bin diving stealing? I'm sure some people have done it...

Yeah its theft if you actually think about the theft act and what it says, under UK law. If your hungry don't get caught eh!

No, its in the bucket, same as police not needing warrant to search your bins.#-o

metalmonkey
26-01-12, 10:16 PM
Whats bin diving?

Going into the bins behind stores, then taking the food they have throw out then eating it in short! Kinda hard around here, most of them are fenced off.

metalmonkey
26-01-12, 10:17 PM
No, its in the bucket, same as police not needing warrant to search your bins.#-o

So what did you throw out then:smt046

mattSV
26-01-12, 10:21 PM
OK, the guy is a thieving git for sure, but is he technically stealing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27NX_MMIkLY&feature=fvwrel

27NX_MMIkLY

He told them he wasn't ordering anything, then he said nothing more and they gave him the food.

I guess it's fraud maybe, he obtained something by deception?

Surely they'll have his reg on CCTV, thats assuming they figure out how they c0ck3d up and report a crime though.

Non, c'est tout bon ;-)

Kilted Ginger
26-01-12, 10:22 PM
A major store was once successfully sued after a bin diver got food poisoning from eating something from their bin. They now cover all waste food in a bright blue smelly dye.

grimey121uk
26-01-12, 10:24 PM
I once ordered a coffee at a McDonald's drive though and the person on the second window handed me a huge bad of food and a tray of 3 large drinks, needless to say I drove off a fast as possible;)

Souldude
26-01-12, 10:26 PM
So bin diving seems OK if your happy to eat food that could be contaminated, I wouldn't call it theft as I assume it is only done by people that are in need of food unlike the driver in video.

dizzyblonde
26-01-12, 10:27 PM
Non, c'est tout bon ;-)

C'est tres bon!

I think its frickin great......but honestly, would you really want to get away with robbing macdonalds too often.....after a while you wouldn't be able to run away, from all the lard you were carrying#-o

joking aside.......theeeeeivin git!

Specialone
26-01-12, 10:43 PM
It's theft, END OF !:rolleyes:( for ralphs and BP's benefit)

metalmonkey
26-01-12, 10:45 PM
So bin diving seems OK if your happy to eat food that could be contaminated, I wouldn't call it theft as I assume it is only done by people that are in need of food unlike the driver in video.

Well if you eat something that is nasty they your gonna:smt078otherwise its fine.

Red Herring
26-01-12, 10:45 PM
Is bin diving stealing? I'm sure some people have done it...

Yeah its theft if you actually think about the theft act and what it says, under UK law. If your hungry don't get caught eh!

"The ordinary defendant who finds property apparently abandoned on the street may not be dishonest if there are no serial numbers or marks that would help to identify the owner. Note that to be abandoned, the owner must have intended to give up all rights in the property and not to pass those rights to another. For example, material discarded in a rubbish bin is not abandoned. The owner intends another to come, empty the bin and dispose of the property without stealing it in the process. Hence, it will be theft to remove any property from a bin or legal disposal site."

Nicked from Wikipedia. As for the video, no question about it. Straightforward deception.

TheOnlyNemesis
26-01-12, 10:45 PM
it is but it Remi and his other stuff is funny as hell.

SoulKiss
26-01-12, 10:46 PM
OK, the guy is a thieving git for sure, but is he technically stealing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27NX_MMIkLY&feature=fvwrel

27NX_MMIkLY

He told them he wasn't ordering anything, then he said nothing more and they gave him the food.

I guess it's fraud maybe, he obtained something by deception?

Surely they'll have his reg on CCTV, thats assuming they figure out how they c0ck3d up and report a crime though.

Thieving French Git

There was me thinking that you knew what these people were like already :p

mattSV
26-01-12, 10:47 PM
it is but it Remi and his other stuff is funny as hell.

Supermarket pacman and mario karting are pure genius

metalmonkey
26-01-12, 11:00 PM
"The ordinary defendant who finds property apparently abandoned on the street may not be dishonest if there are no serial numbers or marks that would help to identify the owner. Note that to be abandoned, the owner must have intended to give up all rights in the property and not to pass those rights to another. For example, material discarded in a rubbish bin is not abandoned. The owner intends another to come, empty the bin and dispose of the property without stealing it in the process. Hence, it will be theft to remove any property from a bin or legal disposal site."

Nicked from Wikipedia. As for the video, no question about it. Straightforward deception.

Theft by finding?

Red Herring
27-01-12, 12:11 AM
Theft by finding?

To avoid "theft by finding" you would need to show that you either made all reasonable enquiries to establish who the owner was, or that any such enquiries were impracticable (like standing in the middle of the High street and shouting "has anybody dropped this tenner...)

It's usually fairly obvious who a bin belongs to, as it is that the McDonalds belongs to the car behind you!