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hongman
03-03-12, 05:00 PM
:(

Bought a chain removal tool, thought it'd be a piece of cake. How wrong was I!

Spun the wheel round, found what I think is the joining link on my old rusty chain. All the others have solid rivets where as this one has a hole through each rivet?

Seems I have to grind the tops off before I can even use the tool to push the rivets out! Tried a screwdriver and hammer for about 30s before I realised this was not going to happen.

So my question is, why on earth did I buy a removal tool? If I need a bloody grinder to grind the tops off, I might as well just cut through the whole thing!

Any words of wisdom? I'm not going out to buy a grinder just for this...worse case I'll get the mobile mechanic to do it when he fits my new tyres next Saturday, and balances my carbs (more money...)

Secondly, how do I removel the rear sprocket? I got the rear wheel out, went to attack it with my 14mm rachet and quickly discovered they were very tight. Any force applied make the sprocket carrier pop out. Tried it with the wheel back in and there isnt enough space to work.

Pft.

Bibio
03-03-12, 05:07 PM
you have taken/loosened the front sprocket first :-) as that's the burger.

yes you have to grind the pins off. go and buy a dremel/aldi,lidle copy you tight git.

loosen everything while still on the bike then cut the chain off.







or get someone who knows what they are doing with all the tools :-)

DarrenSV650S
03-03-12, 05:07 PM
Pushing the pin out didn't work for me either, even with one rivet ground completely off. The rivet on the other side was still solid. I just ended up dremeling the side-plate in half. So much easier.

I tried drilling the pin too but it didn't even touch it.


Put the wheel flat on the disc (on carpet or something) and hold the wheel with your legs. Push down on the nut with the breaker bar and it comes off easy

andrewsmith
03-03-12, 05:08 PM
Hong
Spray the the nuts with penetrating oil, push the carrier back on and use a long ratchet

hongman
03-03-12, 05:16 PM
you have taken/loosened the front sprocket first :-) as that's the burger.

yes you have to grind the pins off. go and buy a dremel/aldi,lidle copy you tight git.

loosen everything while still on the bike then cut the chain off.

or get someone who knows what they are doing with all the tools :-)



Front sprocket is staying on :) its -1T and only a couple months old. Barely worn.

I cant believe you called me tight. :( I actually have a dremel but its somehwere in the back of the shed with all the spiders :(


Pushing the pin out didn't work for me either, even with one rivet ground completely off. The rivet on the other side was still solid. I just ended up dremeling the side-plate in half. So much easier.

I tried drilling the pin too but it didn't even touch it.


Put the wheel flat on the disc (on carpet or something) and hole the wheel with your legs. Push down on the nut with the breaker bar and it comes off easy

Another vote for dremel then...

Have you seen the size of my legs? I can barely get on the bike, I dont thknk I could hold the wheel whilst applying any kind of force!

Hong
Spray the the nuts with penetrating oil, push the carrier back on and use a long ratchet

I gave em a squirt before I parked it back up.

I only have tomorrow left now and then the next time I get to work on it is next weekend. By then I might just get the mobile mechanic to do it lol.

Bibio
03-03-12, 05:24 PM
I cant believe you called me tight. :(



oooops i upset Hong :-)

go and dig it out grind the top of the pins off and put a screwdriver at the link and prise off. or just cut right threw the link plates.









i was kidding m8 :rolleyes: ;)

hongman
03-03-12, 05:26 PM
Its ok lancey baby. Because you are 100% right :D

Too late now, I have kiddies running round me, plus spiders make it extremely easy for my to procrastinate on this matter.

SPIDERS!

Bibio
03-03-12, 05:37 PM
spider removal

start

if spider found goto next

WD40 + Lighter = burnt spider

if another spider found then goto start

if no more spiders then

end

hongman
03-03-12, 05:42 PM
I cant wait to meet you again lance lol

Reeder
03-03-12, 06:38 PM
Wimp :-P

NTECUK
03-03-12, 06:56 PM
Don't use a ratchet to loosen very tight fixing.Get a breaker bar.
Ratchets are not that strong and are likely
to slip round and then you smack your hand /skin ya knuckles
:(

hongman
03-03-12, 07:00 PM
Wimp :-P

:flower:

Don't use a ratchet to loosen very tight fixing.Get a breaker bar.
Ratchets are not that strong and are likely
to slip round and then you smack your hand /skin ya knuckles
:(

I dont think the nuts are too tight, the problem is/was the sprocket carrier popping out as soon as I applied any force

NTECUK
03-03-12, 07:05 PM
well you could get one of theses
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/clarke-cew1000-electric-impact-wrench
We have the pro versions and they are brill for workshop uses.
http://www.easupplies.com/INGERSOLLRAND-W360KL2-Cordless-Impact-Wrench-Kit-p/pt11bc.htm

andrewsmith
03-03-12, 07:59 PM
spider removal

start

if spider found goto next

acetylene + Lighter = burnt spider

if another spider found then goto start

if no more spiders then

you sheds gone!

Corrected mate

markc123
03-03-12, 08:51 PM
Argos will sell you an angle grinder for £18. Its a tool every man should own.

Or a plasma cutter will do the job should you feel spendy.

Dicky Ticker
03-03-12, 10:32 PM
Sod all that expense---- if you are not going to refit the chain after you take it off so undo the nut on the front sprocket and cut the chain with a hacksaw

DJ123
03-03-12, 10:59 PM
why not remove the sprocket carrier and secure it in a vice then?

hongman
04-03-12, 11:55 AM
Dont have a vice :D