Frank and the GM 2010

[Quedos]

I know I'm not here often but I do believe that I should pass this on

For those that went to the GM in 2010 will remember an unfortunate incident with Frank the hill walker who collapsed on the hill behind the campsite. A few of our members and residents came to his aid but despite our attempts he was pronounced 45 mins later when the paramedics arrived.

One of these residents was someone I worked with and since that date they have been looking at the viabilty of defib's due to the remote location.
I got an email today to say that the Drover and Inveranan now have 3 defibs and they are now fully trainined.

So for all those who helped Frank - its a big thank you from the communities as they have new equipment to reduce the probability of it happening again.

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[Luckypants]

Good news and good to see that something positive has come of it.

[maviczap]

Good news and good to see that something positive has come of it.

+1

I don't understand why it should take an incident like this to get defibs installed.

In this country we have a poor understanding of how to use dfibs, when infact they are so simple to use.

Countries like the USA are streets ahead on Dfib placements, they are installed in airports, supermarkets, stations etc.

There are no official ones in our offices, my team have one, but that's connected with our medical training, and we had a 3 year battle to get it.

[Dicky Ticker]

Like a lot of things in todays society if you try and help and it goes wrong you are held responsible and that is it is a position that first aiders don't want to be in.

[Quedos]

I don't think they had thought of the possibilty of an incident like it, Iain had said that it hadn't happened before. and this just made sit up and think. it took this long to get funding and training bearing in mind how remote Inveranan is and that the businesses are not open all year round unlike the hill walkers.
but its done and every one is trained and in a way I hope that they never need it again

[Bibio]

great news.

[maviczap]

Like a lot of things in todays society if you try and help and it goes wrong you are held responsible and that is it is a position that first aiders don't want to be in.

Yes, that's a big problem, but as a member of the public you are seen as acting as a 'Good Samaritan' and if you get it wrong, then you were only trying to do your best and save someone's life.

Whereas iditots like me who've had some training could possibly be sued if I got it wrong, but I'd still do my best and I'm pretty sure a court or coroner would view it like that?

But our trainers say that doctors are very reluctant to help out and will leave it to paramedics to do their job, that's what they're paid for and covered to do.

Sad world isn't it.

[MisterTommyH]

It's worth noting that some training providers will give you free legal cover to you once you have completed a course with them and your certificate is valid.

[Dave20046]

Good things

[haggis]

I remember it well, totally changed the feel of the day we had.
Thats great to hear Q. I hope theyre not ever required but there if need be.

[appollo1]

That is great to read Q.

It is a shame that it has taken something like this to happen to get the Dfib in place but at least now should it ever happen again then there is something in place that could save someones life.

I know you did a great job that night trying to help him and you were left with the trauma of what had happened but you can hold your head high knowing that you did your best.


With regards to some of the comments made there are many people who would not even attempt to try and help someone for fear of it going wrong and the potential for being sued by an emotional family.

Some people who have had training are obliged to help in any way they can and can face disciplinary action if it is found that they were at the incident and did not help.

[shonadoll]

That's a great result out of a tragedy. Well done to all involved.

[missyburd]

Great news indeed. I too remember it and seeing you in pieces after Abi was not pleasant, and the other folk involved. You were all very brave that day and this is a very good result, just such a tragedy it took one loss of life to reach it.