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Kyleton7
20-04-12, 04:09 PM
would it be worth putting a power commander on my pointy? make much difference?

k3 model , registerd in 04

Bibio
20-04-12, 04:16 PM
no

Kyleton7
20-04-12, 04:40 PM
Just a plain no >_>? They bad for engine or something ?

Bibio
20-04-12, 04:45 PM
no gain to be had for what they cost. you might get an extra 2-3bhp

much better getting your bike to how you want it in regards to filters and things then take it to get your ecu done on a dyno.

DJ123
20-04-12, 05:11 PM
of what i have been told, it's better to get a new map on the ECU rather than have a PC

mikerj
20-04-12, 10:18 PM
Just a plain no >_>? They bad for engine or something ?

They are only bad for it if set up incorrectly. The bottom line is that the standard SV ECU is pretty well mapped to start with, so the gains to be had with a standard engine are very small.

Bluefish
20-04-12, 10:20 PM
what power are you trying to command, if you want a faster bike then buy one. Save the money for petrol.

NTECUK
20-04-12, 10:30 PM
PC V has the option for 2 maps so you could set one for power one for eco.
But the SV is dame good balance as it is.
If you have different exhaust and swop the baffles in\out .it can stop the popping on over run .
Switch is handlebar mounted.
But if you only have one set up why bother, more to go wrong.
You need to dyno the bike just the same with the PC to get the map spot on anyway.

Richie
20-04-12, 10:59 PM
Agreed +1 NO.

Kyleton7
22-04-12, 06:36 PM
Sweet , figured it wasn't worth the hastle

jewkc
24-04-12, 09:54 PM
Tbh I brought a pc3 second hand of here and although mpg has gone down the acceleration made a big difference accelerating to the top end it matches a sv thou back to the stop, £150 well spent but it's each to their own I suppose

The Flame
25-04-12, 07:21 AM
a pc3 has a sense only if you change first air filter and exhaust (and i mean a COMPLETE racing exhaust), because it's pretty obvious that if you change the stoichiometric ratio you need to rebalanced it at every rpm!

NTECUK
25-04-12, 09:22 AM
PC V has an auto tune add on £££.
You have a spot on system then that will adapt to changes , bit Ott for a road Sv.

SoulKiss
25-04-12, 12:10 PM
Tbh I brought a pc3 second hand of here and although mpg has gone down the acceleration made a big difference accelerating to the top end it matches a sv thou back to the stop, £150 well spent but it's each to their own I suppose

You could have done that for less with a remap at a dealers...

SV650Racer
25-04-12, 01:00 PM
Tbh I brought a pc3 second hand of here and although mpg has gone down the acceleration made a big difference accelerating to the top end it matches a sv thou back to the stop, £150 well spent but it's each to their own I suppose

A PC is worthwhile but only if you have it custom mapped to suit your own bike. No two bikes no matter how similar will require the same fuel mapping due to tolerances within the injectors, engine, what type of exhaust your running etc etc.

Now generally if the bike has lost a few MPG then id suggest its running rich and more can be had from the bike performance wise by getting the fueling mapped to suit. An air fuel check run will tell you exactly whats happening.

You can also map the SV ECU directly with a few different systems and tbh unless you run out of range using those systems that will work perfectly well on the majority of SV's unless your running a tuned engine or looking to cap BHP within a power restricted race class.

All bikes even stock can benefit from a custom map, it may only show a 2bhp gain at the top but mainly it cleans up and improves low down throttle response. Some people complain about a jerky throttle, this can easily be cleared by adjusting the low speed fueling and is better to do than moving the TPS unless the TPS is showing out of spec.

SoulKiss
25-04-12, 01:04 PM
A PC is worthwhile but only if you have it custom mapped to suit your own bike. No two bikes no matter how similar will require the same fuel mapping due to tolerances within the injectors, engine, what type of exhaust your running etc etc.

Now generally if the bike has lost a few MPG then id suggest its running rich and more can be had from the bike performance wise by getting the fueling mapped to suit. An air fuel check run will tell you exactly whats happening.

You can also map the SV ECU directly with a few different systems and tbh unless you run out of range using those systems that will work perfectly well on the majority of SV's unless your running a tuned engine or looking to cap BHP within a power restricted race class.

All bikes even stock can benefit from a custom map, it may only show a 2bhp gain at the top but mainly it cleans up and improves low down throttle response. Some people complain about a jerky throttle, this can easily be cleared by adjusting the low speed fueling and is better to do than moving the TPS unless the TPS is showing out of spec.

And for the record, just how much would such work take and how much would it cost (non-Org rate as well for those who can't make use of your .Org discount offer - if this would be covered by that)

SV650Racer
25-04-12, 01:12 PM
And for the record, just how much would such work take and how much would it cost (non-Org rate as well for those who can't make use of your .Org discount offer - if this would be covered by that)

Direct ECU remap for non org members is £160 inc Vat and thats a full 3 hours on the dyno, not just a quick bung in a map and a few runs!. Org rate is £145. Thats using the Pro Bike software not the Yoshi or Teka box which we only use for small low speed or idle fueling adjustments as it doesnt have as much range.