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daveyrach
01-05-12, 02:49 PM
So I thought I'd have a go at fixing the RROD on Xbox360, I won an Xbox with the red ring of death and bought the repair kit for the X clamps, it looks pretty straight forward. Question is has anyone else done it before, apparently has a 98% success rate.

Xbox cost me £8 and repair kit £4, so if it works then I'm laughing.

markc123
01-05-12, 03:10 PM
Had 4 goes at fixing one, kept failing. Others have seemed to do much better.

Its easy enough to take it apart and install the parts.

Worth knowing that MS have been fixing out of warranty units - this particular one was modded so could not go that route.

speedplay
01-05-12, 03:16 PM
Have a word with hindle.

daveyrach
01-05-12, 03:16 PM
This Xbox is a fair few years old, purely and experimental thing hence why I haven't spent a fortune. If i fail then i have only lost £12

Stenno
01-05-12, 03:50 PM
I fixed mine using penny coins wrapped in insulation tape and some new heat sink compound. It works, but I haven't really used it much to see if it's a permanent solution.

daveyrach
01-05-12, 03:56 PM
I fixed mine using penny coins wrapped in insulation tape and some new heat sink compound. It works, but I haven't really used it much to see if it's a permanent solution.

That is to fix the motherboard flex issue isn't it as microsoft only secure the board around the edge and didn't support it in the middle

Stenno
01-05-12, 04:17 PM
No it was the RROD. The processors didn't make good enough contact with the heat sinks so you fit the penny coins to make better contact.

davepreston
01-05-12, 05:43 PM
there are many rrod issues first you have to know whick one eg e47 error etc
i get irksy to fix mine when its happened but have watched the proceeses used ,some its a xbox kit, or as said the penny trick, some times its running a heat gun over the board to seperate/recontact loose solders

so post which fault and im sure we can direct you to the proper method

and no sarket comments please lol :)

davepreston
01-05-12, 05:45 PM
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=484726

a helpful guide

daveyrach
01-05-12, 05:48 PM
3 red lights

davepreston
01-05-12, 05:52 PM
Sections 1, 3, and 4 are flashing red
- General Hardware Failure
/ \
\ /

Check the secondary Error Code per the instructions in the section below

THINGS TO TRY

Try restarting the console.
If restarting the console does not resolve the behavior, follow these steps:

Turn the console off.
Unplug all the power and AV cables from the console.
Unplug the power cord from the wall socket.
Firmly reconnect all the cables.
Turn on the console.

If these steps do not resolve the behavior, turn the console off, remove the hard drive, and then turn on the console. If the 3x Red LED error light is no longer displayed, turn the console off, re-attach the hard drive, and then turn on the console.
Also examine the lights on the power supply. When you turn on the console, the power supply light should illuminate green even if the three lights on the RoL flash red.

davepreston
01-05-12, 05:53 PM
--==SECONDARY ERROR CODES==-
The specific type of hardware failure can be determined by a "hidden" error code

Turn the xbox 360 on, and wait till the 3 red lights are flashing.
Press and hold the sync up button (the small white one), while holding that button press the eject button.
The LEDs will now blink the first number in the code (as described below).
Release the eject button and press it again.
The LEDs will now blink the second number of the code.
Release the eject button and press it again.
The LEDs will now blink the third number of the code.
Release the eject button and press it again.
The LEDs will now blink the forth number of the code.
Release the eject button and press it again.
The LEDs will go back to the 3 red flashing lights.
You should be able to determine the difference between the 3 flashing lights and the error code lights by the rate in which they flash.

Here is how you interpret the LEDs to get the code number:

All four lights flashing - 0
One light flashing - 1
Two Lights flashing - 2
Three lights flashing - 3

0001 See Error E01
0002 See Error E02
0003 See Error E03
0010 See Error E04
0011 See Error E05
0012 See Error E06
0013 See Error E07
0020 See Error E08
0021 See Error E09
0022 See Error E10
0023 (not yet known)
0030 See Error E12
0031 See Error E13
0032 (not yet known)
0033 (not yet known)
0100 See Error E16
0101 (not yet known)
0102 See Error E18
0103 See Error E19
0110 See Error E20
...
0200 (not yet known)
0201 (not yet known)
0202 (not yet known)
0203 See Error E35
...
1000 See Error E64
1001 See Error E65
1002 See Error E66
1003 See Error E67
1010 See Error E68
1011 See Error E69
1012 See Error E70
1013 See Error E71
1020 See Error E72
1021 See Error E73
1022 See Error E74
1023 See Error E75
1030 See Error E76
1031 See Error E77
1032 See Error E78
1033 See Error E79
1100 See Error E80
...
1444 and up There is no "4" in the error codes. Four lights is a "0" go back and check your code again.

davepreston
01-05-12, 05:54 PM
E01: possibly a power supply problem

E02: possibly a Network Interface problem (might be fixed by loosening the x-clamps)

E03: possibly Power problem could be the PSU could be the GPU/CPU, somehow the console isn't getting clean power from the power supply.

E04: Unconfirmed: There is a problem with the Southbridge Chip usually dealing with how it connects to the mainboard (cold solder joint/bridged solder joints)

E05: CPU over heating - If you are receiving this error after disassembling your console make sure to all 8 of the heatsinc screws are tightened securely to the board/heatsink holes.

E06: GPU over heating -ensure your x-clamps are installed properly.

E07: RAM over heating

E08: Unconfirmed: General I/O Malfunction, could be caused by an error with any of the I/O devies such as A/V port, USB, Hard drive, DVD drive, etc. over torquing of the AV or heatsync bolts can cause this error.

E09: Unconfirmed: This can be caused by two completely different things either:
A. DVD Drive Time out - Can be caused by problems with a firmware flash. This is also speculated to sometime be caused by a problem with the southbridge chipset on the motherboard based on how it connects to the DVD drive.
B. GPU error, generally caused by a poor connection to the mainboard (cold solder joints/bridged solder joints) See error E18 for more information

E10: Unconfirmed: CPU error, generally caused by a poor connection to the mainboard (cold solder joints/bridged solder joints). This can also be triggered by an error with the TSOP.

E11: (not yet known)

E12: Possibly a problem with temperature control

E13: Unknown: could be caused by a short between the heatsink and surrounding capacitors

E14: (not yet known)

E15: (not yet known)

E16: Unknown: Likely a cold solder join in GPU or Ram chips (see error E18)

E17: (not yet known)

E18: Error in the "Digital Backbone" (CPU/GPU/RAM), this is usually caused by a cold solder joint between the GPU and the mainboard.
There are two theories to fixing this one deals with the "X" clamps that hold down the chips (http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=595746). The other involves re-Heating the chips (http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=484726&view=findpost&p=3550914). DO NOT attempt either of these if your console is still under warranty. If your console is still under warranty return it to the store where it was purchased or call MS to have it replaced.

E19: Unknown: GPU Error this is usually caused by bridged solder points where the GPU connects to the mainboard. see error E18 for more detailed information

E20: likely a Ram error, this can be caused by a cold or bridged solder joint on one of the Ram chips.
...
E32: (not yet known)

E33: (not yet known)

E34: (not yet known)

E35: over heating GPU possibly due to lack of thermal compound.
...
E45: Unknown (possibly dashboard update related)

E52: (not yet known)

E64: DVD Drive Error - Dvd drive timed out during reset :Wrong firmware, dvd is without f/w chip, etc. This can also be caused by the tray not being fully closed on boot. also it could mean that the Kernel can't be launched/signature in NAND Flash chip is broken It could be possible after bad update. http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?sho...p;#entry4156375 (http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=484726&st=615&p=4156375&#entry4156375) This might also be caused by a bad SATA cable.

E65: DVD Drive Error - Dvd drive is not DMA configured :Wrong firmware, dvd is without f/w chip, etc. This can also be caused by the tray not being fully closed on boot.

E66: DVD Drive Error - Dvd drive pairing failure: DVD model, or version does not match that of the version expected by the dashboard. OR the firmware version on the drive is older then the firmware version expected by the dashboard. Make sure the DVD drive is of the same version originally included with the console and that it is using either the original firmware included with the console or newer. if drive can eject, read, and write under windows but errors on console, replacing original firmware should fix issue.

E67: Hard Drive Error - Hard drive timed out during reset: It could be a problem with the Hard Drive itself or a problem with the internal connection to the hard drive, Try removing the hard drive and playing without it.


E68: Hard Drive Error - Hard drive not DMA configured: It could be a problem with the Hard Drive itself or a problem with the internal connection to the hard drive, Try removing the hard drive and playing without it. Also this can be caused by a problem with the fans that make them draw too much power, it can also be caused if you have unnecessary accessories attached to the console like an external fan unit. Attempt to remove unnecessary accessories first, and then necessary components such as the hard drive and USB devices. If you have any case mods you may want to investigate those as well.

E69: Hard Drive Error - Reading the HD Security sector failed: It could be a problem with the Hard Drive itself or a problem with the internal connection to the hard drive, Try removing the hard drive and playing without it

E70: Hard Drive Error - Hard drive not found

E71: Dashboard Error - Error within Xam.xex: possibly a dashboard update error, Check below in the "Console Reset Codes" for instructions. If that does not work there is no other solution and the console must be sent back to MS for repair.

E72: Dashboard Error - Error within Xam.xex: Like a problem with the NAND flash

E73: I/O Hardware Error - Couldn't calibrate HSIO Bus from edram: this error is likely caused by a problem with the Ethernet port or supporting control devices

E74: I/O Hardware Error - HSIO related, could be crc error, or many things: There is high chance it's a scaler chip problem (the "ANA" or "HANA" chip near the AV cable connection) it can also be caused by a faulty AV cable so check that first. Microsoft covers this error under their 3-year warranty, this is availble to anyone who hasn't modified their console. contact MS to get a free replacement console before attempting to fix this yourself. Failing that this error In some cases it is a problem with the GPU and may be repairable by doing the x-clamp replacement (see error 0102)

E75: Ethernet Error - Couldn't read ethernet phy vendor: Strange but sometimes caused by the DVD drive not being connected properly.

E76: Ethernet Error - Couldn't complete ethernet reset: This error is usually cased by the Ethernet port's controller chip, a dead chip may not cause the error but removing the Ethernet controller chip does, it may also be caused by other Ethernet related problems.

E77: Ethernet Error - phy request is already processing/reading reg failed/Failed to write reg: This error is sometimes caused by power problems with the RAM chips. It might be cause by a short between the heat sink and resistors or by more serious problems with the RAM. [more info (http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=660069)]

E78: Dashboard Error - AsicId check failed

E79: Dashboard Error - Couldn't start xam.xex: probably a file system corruption, it could also be a problem with the Hard Drive itself or a problem with the internal connection to the hard drive, Try removing the hard drive and playing without it.

E80: Dashboard Error - Wrong LDV version in NAND Flash: This is in new dashboard. You have the update but haven't R3T6 resistor. You can:
-Downgrade to old dashboard, solder back the resistor and then update your xbox
-If you have CPU Key, get current NAND Flash image and fix LDV (just add 1 up to latest kernel). (See error 1100)

Stuuk1
01-05-12, 06:01 PM
RROD is easy to do, it just depends how hot the unit got when it went RROD and how many times the owned turned it on afterwards (added heat).

The heat may have damaged the chip beyond repair, I've had a few of these like this and the chips are bright purple!

daveyrach
02-05-12, 07:29 AM
Wow quite a few possibilities then, will see what it says when i get it, I can set it up with my son's lead as I know they work.

pookie
02-05-12, 07:32 AM
are you aware different models have different psus
http://www.rctech.net/forum/attachments/radio-electronics/587162d1272692027-cheap-12v-14a-power-supply-360powersupplies.png

daveyrach
02-05-12, 08:05 AM
Its proper old, not sure how old till I get it. I have noticed the new Slim Xbox does not seem to suffer from the issues.

daveyrach
08-05-12, 09:01 PM
Does anyone have the 203w Xenon/Zepher power supply kicking around?

daveyrach
08-05-12, 09:04 PM
Does anyone have the Xenon/Zepher power supply, although I have 2 other box's one is the Opus/Falcon and one is Jasper.

TheOnlyNemesis
08-05-12, 09:28 PM
The RROD has a 3 or 5 year warranty so you should double check. Also it is very easy to fix, done loads.

hindle8907
08-05-12, 09:41 PM
heat gun - thermal compound - pennies or an xclamp kit will see most errors fixed.

daveyrach
08-05-12, 09:58 PM
Already done the fix, but I need a power lead to test, I bought it as faulty from Ebay with no leads. As I say both other consoles have the 'other' power connectors.

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pookie
09-05-12, 06:56 AM
i've got a 203w but I'm in essex by the bridge or in central london sometimes

daveyrach
09-05-12, 07:18 AM
i've got a 203w but I'm in essex by the bridge or in central london sometimes

Would you be willing to sell it?

pookie
09-05-12, 07:55 AM
sorry its on an xbox at the moment..more than welcome to stick it on yours test

daveyrach
15-05-12, 07:32 AM
Right

I am gonna resell it, I fitted and refitted an x-clamp kit and have also heat gunned the board, still showing same error of E03 which apparently is PSU/CPU issue and clean power, I have a new power brick so can rule this out as that show no error LED when plugged in.