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We collected a nice little Ducati Monster 600 for Mrs Flymo last night. Nice looking bike, plenty of character.
It seems that its fairly easy to get hold of a workshop manual download.... if you speak German!
Was zur Hölle haben wir getan?
dizzyblonde
08-05-12, 08:52 AM
You'll likely find a manual in English, if you look hard enough, or join a Duc forum and they'll point you to one.
The Raptor manual comes in German, with a hint of Italian, unless you look hard enough, and AndyBrad gives you a disk in full English :D
yeah, will keep looking. Got this one fairly cheap, its a 1999 M600. Mostly good nick, couple of minor bits and pieces need sorting out.
Main point is that the neutral switch is buggered and so has no neutral light, a bit of a pain for somebody getting back into riding for the first time in a while. However, we have the technology :-)
Icanopit
08-05-12, 11:55 AM
Hi FLYMO, I also have a 2001 600 (as of course others) http://www.ukmonster.co.uk are like the SV forum a mine of help and information.
JOHN
Whats that coming over the hill,Is it Mrs Flymo on the Monster.
:)
Whats the big idea not getting her a nice naked curvy? :smt064
Hope you have many happy miles together :D
Hi FLYMO, I also have a 2001 600 (as of course others) http://www.ukmonster.co.uk are like the SV forum a mine of help and information.
JOHN
thank you, I'll take a look at that.
Whats that coming over the hill,Is it Mrs Flymo on the Monster.
:)
Ha ha, She has had access to a monster for a while ;-). This is just the latest one.
Whats the big idea not getting her a nice naked curvy? :smt064
Hope you have many happy miles together :D
We did discuss the idea, seemed a bit 'Harold and Hilda' to have two bikes the same/nearly the same. One step down from matching lids and leathers :-)
i wonder if it's the same one MrsDJfridge just sold
i wonder if it's the same one MrsDJfridge just sold
Don't think so, I bought it from a lad in Newcastle. he may well be along here anytime soon as his next bike was planned to be an SV.
davepreston
08-05-12, 05:55 PM
ahhh i see the plan, your wanting to practice your spannering and looking at stuff that hardly moves
;)
Sid Squid
08-05-12, 06:15 PM
We did discuss the idea, seemed a bit 'Harold and Hilda' to have two bikes the same/nearly the same. One step down from matching lids and leathers :-)
Yuk - you did the right thing.
Monster is lovely, have fun Mrs Flymo!
andrewsmith
08-05-12, 07:20 PM
Don't think so, I bought it from a lad in Newcastle. he may well be along here anytime soon as his next bike was planned to be an SV.
What colour mate?
We did discuss the idea, seemed a bit 'Harold and Hilda' to have two bikes the same/nearly the same. One step down from matching lids and leathers :-)
Eeeee yeah thats pretty tragic. Saw a lot of matching rider/pillions at Oulton this weekend :laughat:
andrewsmith
08-05-12, 07:53 PM
Eeeee yeah thats pretty tragic. Saw a lot of matching rider/pillions at Oulton this weekend :laughat:
:smt082:smt082
Never seen the streetfighter mob
or the bandit owners club rideout
What colour mate?
It's a beautiful Ducati red.
The more I look the more I find that needs putting right, I hate bodges. It'll be spotless by the time I'm done.
At the moment just getting the necessary basics right. The neutral switch wasn't working - fixed. Slightly more worryingly the throttle sticks fully open and doesnt return without manual assistance. Its just sticky throttle cables and twist grip assembly but not what you need when riding a bike for the first time in a while.
I must admit, I really like it. Compared to the Jap bikes I've owned though it has some very strange design decisions. Ducati seem to be all about form long before function.
andrewsmith
08-05-12, 08:06 PM
Just do a belt service, you'll need to strip the thing to parts to do it
I'll probably wait until the summer to do those, it had them done about 3 thousand miles ago and has been running under a 33bhp restriction since so should be fine for now.
We want to get out and have some fun first.
rictus01
08-05-12, 08:14 PM
I have a digital manual for the 620 engine, I don't know how much different they are, but if you want a copy PM me an email address and I'll send it over.
Oh and have the 99 monster 600 owners manual to.
Cheers Mark.
ahhh i see the plan, your wanting to practice your spannering and looking at stuff that hardly moves
;)
not at all! The point of getting this one was so that we can get out and ride 'em.
Mrs DJ Fridge
08-05-12, 08:44 PM
Congratulations, mine was a 600 Monster Dark, she was lovely and had real attitude, which included a hatred of cold and wet, but I really enjoyed owning her. Easily the best details are available on ducatiforum.co.uk, it is a bigger forum than the Monster Forum and really full of helpful people.
DJFridge
08-05-12, 08:46 PM
I hope Mrs Flymo enjoys it. MrsDJF only traded hers in because it was useless for a short distance commute. It took longer to properly warm the engine than the journey!! And it hated the cold. And the wet. And the slightly damp, actually. And putting luggage on it looked messy and expensive. NN matter, she loved it's quirkiness and forgave the "bag of loose spanners" engine and gearbox noises. I liked it because it was p1ss easy to keep up with - she's definitely faster on the V-Strom!
hongman
09-05-12, 08:15 PM
I had looked at a Monster once, nice low bike.
Had the throttle to bits yesterday, what started as a quick check to figure out why the twist grip was sticky ended up as a complete removal of cables (which meant removal of airbox, battery, ignition switch....blah blah.......). Anyway, after removing what looked like years of crap I cleaned up the carb assembly and stripped and cleaned the cables. One of them is knackered though, frayed with spiky bits sticking out hardly helping my search for a smooth throttle.
Also noticed that the twistgrip assembly has a stripped thread and so cannot be properly clamped to the handlebar, twisting the assembly and adding yet more friction to the party. I'll be repairing that with a v-coil thread repair later. I notice from the part diagrams that there should be a large plastic washer that sits in between the rubber twist grip and the assembly to remove friction, I guess that has been lost at some point during the bikes lifetime.
Happy days :-)
Dabteacake
10-05-12, 01:17 PM
Sounds like a nice little project to keep ou busy eh?
thread repaired, new throttle cables fitted. The throttle is now as smooth as can be :-).
Apparently this bike had been really well looked after, my ar$e. Brake lights not working - fixed. Clutch lever binding - fixed. Rear foot pegs held in position with elastic bands - now fitted properly, clunk into position without elastic bands. Dodgy rear wheel bearing - on the list. Chain and sprockets look like they've done a about 1,000,000 miles - yet to be replaced. The front forks dive like a Liverpool player - oil probably hasn't seen the light of day in years - on the list. Oil leaking from the oil filter - next on the list.
So, it wasnt in great nick, now it's lovely. :-)
mmm, out for it's first rider earlier. At first I thought the idle was set way too high as its revving too high, checked that on return and it seems ok. Will investigate further tomorrow.
Wonder if its related to me removing the restrictor washers, do the carbs normally get adjusted to suit restrictors?
andrewsmith
12-05-12, 09:01 PM
Normally not
As its italian who knows
Had a brief look but cant find anything obvious. Most likely suspect is a vacuum leak somewhere around the carbs I reckon, airbox off again.
Icanopit
14-05-12, 08:53 AM
In a hurry to get out! will post later BUT had similar, carb balance "accurate" and mixture screw had a massive effect on running followed by FLOAT LEVEL also critical. When I return will give some links and personal notes if it helps.
JOHN
Icanopit
14-05-12, 03:21 PM
Hi FLYMO, some threads/sites to check and hopefully help?? My float level ended up at 14mm and mixture screws at 2.75 these setting eliminated overun and hang on the throttle. What I have also learned via trial and error is that re-jetting is need for better air filter and exhausts, just thoughts to check.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vzPZ84ZRjU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIj3nSJGPZw&feature=related
http://www.factorypro.com
http://www.ducatisuite.com/jetkit.html
http://www.ducati.com/services/maintenance/index.do
http://www.factorypro.com/tech/carbtune,CV,high_rpm_engines.html
Some to get your teeth into, hope it helps.
Tinker till your hearts content?? JOHN
and the fun continues....
I took the Monster out for a test ride earlier. Holy crap.... THE worst case of headstock bearing play I have ever seen. Another job for the list. Still no obvious cause for the high revving idle, may have to remove the carbs for a closer look at the weekend.
I'll be stripping and servicing the forks too, never stripped a set of USD forks before so should be fun. I'll be doing that right after replacing the rear shock struts on my XTrail, never done that before either, happy days :smt022
rictus01
15-05-12, 10:02 PM
I hope this bike was a steal, you seem to be finding a fair few "issues" there's character and then there's taking the pi**
yorkie_chris
15-05-12, 10:06 PM
Ducati seem to be all about form long before function.
They think about function?! :smt044:smt044
THE worst case of headstock bearing play I have ever seen.
Ask nobbylad about his...
I hope this bike was a steal, you seem to be finding a fair few "issues" there's character and then there's taking the pi**
It was reasonable, I genuinely think the guy thought this thing was in good nick. I suppose I have higher standards of how a bike should be maintained than he did. It wouldn't have passed an MOT, never mind 'good nick'.
They think about function?! :smt044:smt044
Ask nobbylad about his...
I think the same guy who designed the GP12 chatter 'feature' for Rossi must have designed the stupid Monster side stand when he was an apprentice, what a crock of....
I reckon this headstock would give Nobby's a run for its money, it feels like a lollypop stick held in place by two polo mints.
rictus01
15-05-12, 10:57 PM
as the saying goes "there are no wrong bikes, just wrong prices to pay for them"
So how much did he pay you to take it away.....;)
But yeah I've found over the last decade or so, the general level of knowledge and care the average bike owner has; is a lot less, sure they can make them look pretty, but a shiny dry chain is not a good thing, try telling them that and they look at you like you're a simpleton .
xXBADGERXx
16-05-12, 12:21 AM
ahhh i see the plan, your wanting to practice your spannering and looking at stuff that hardly moves
;)
He could always come round to your gaff and have a look at all that SV junk you have
andrewsmith
16-05-12, 05:51 AM
He could always come round to your gaff and have a look at all that SV junk you have
:notworthy:
At least it isn't one of the 'fighters
Sounds like you're having fun but don't want to admit it? My gpz 500 commuter/ winter hack sounds like it came from similar seller. His understanding of the word recent is very different to mine! Most of 'recently' fitted parts on mine were just marginally less knacked than rest of bike. It was 'only' £400 which sounds cheap but where ever you look at it there is a bodge, crack, bit missing, rust or something electrical not working right. Not to mention cuts out for no reason then starts straight up again. Hope that makes you feel better about your monster mate. Another worrying thing wad he had about 4 or 5 other bikes in his lockup he was working on for his mates! Eek!!
It is quite satisfying to take a bike in relatively poor condition and refine it. I've always managed to source cheap race bikes by starting from a non-runner and putting it straight.
If I could afford to buy them in perfect nick up front then I would :-)
Headstock stripped and refitted, looks like it was fitted using polyfilla rather than grease it had gone that hard. Not perfectly smooth but 1000 times better than it was.
The high revving issue may be down to incorrectly routed throttle cables, I'm not convinced they are in the correct place. The Haynes manuals annoyingly dont show cable routes, anybody here got a 99 (or older) model Monster 600 that they could grab a photo of for me? I want to know which route the cables take from the carbs through the frame/headstock up to the bar.
Icanopit
17-05-12, 08:12 PM
Although mines an 01 I think the routes the same?
Looking from the front off-side/throttle side! from the carbs the cables come forward to the side of the Reg/Rec (thru wire hoop) rise upwards through frame and exit between lower triangulation of frame and headstock, still rising then come forwards between top yoke and gauges then arch in a natural line to twistgrip.
If this isnt making sense I will take photos in daylight tomoz IF needed.
JOHN
cheers, a brief pic to confirm would be useful. a view from offside looking headstock yokes and another from near the brake lever would be good.
Although mines an 01 I think the routes the same?
Looking from the front off-side/throttle side! from the carbs the cables come forward to the side of the Reg/Rec (thru wire hoop) rise upwards through frame and exit between lower triangulation of frame and headstock, still rising then come forwards between top yoke and gauges then arch in a natural line to twistgrip.
If this isnt making sense I will take photos in daylight tomoz IF needed.
JOHN
Like this?
http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu67/flymo_racer/photo2.jpg
It looks like the choke cable is running through the wrong part of the frame also, but that will have to wait until I next take the battery/airbox lower off again.
lots of improvements today;
Front end stripped and rebuilt
Headstock bearings running smooth
Indicators working properly (dodgy connection)
Front brakes working properly, the caliper wasnt mounted properly?? wtf?
Front wheel bearings sorted
Cables routed properly, just about every one of them was wrong, steering feels much smoother as a result.
Oil pressure sender was leaking engine oil, it wasnt fastened down properly and was missing a copper washer.
Test ride tomorrow to see if the idle has settled as a result of re-routing the throttle cables.
Icanopit
18-05-12, 11:03 PM
Sorry for not posting piccies but got preoccupied fitting new zorsts on th trumpet?
The double/pair of throttle cables should take the same route as the single through the trianulation, but guess very little additional free play would be gained changing.
I had similar problems controlling the fast idle untill I turned the mixture screws from 2.25 turns to 2.75 turns and the float level I must of altered 5-6 times BUT this was after filter/jet/needle changes..
IF you find the clutch a little stiff, fitting an OBERON slave cylinder makes a massive difference.
Hope all go'es well
Sid Squid
19-05-12, 10:54 AM
lthe caliper wasnt mounted properly?? wtf?
Not properly how? I'm intrigued. :smt017
Not properly how? I'm intrigued. :smt017
so, I was wondering why the caliper didn't line up with the disc. There is a hoop bracket thing to hold the speedo cable in position, this should be mounted on the outer side of the caliper mounting bracket and held in position by the caliper bolt. Instead, this was mounted in between the caliper and the mounting, the caliper spaced out at the bottom with washers to compensate.
The caliper should be mounted flush with the fork mounting, with hoops washers and any other gubbins on the outer edge of the mounting. The caliper now centers perfectly over the disc and works a treat.
All went well today though, but I still have a high idle to sort out. It didnt occur at all during a 15 min test ride in the cool. Later on though with a longer ride the engine revs stayed up with the throttle closed.
My guess is now either an air leak in or around the carbs/rubber mountings or a fault with the carbs.
Sid Squid
19-05-12, 08:11 PM
There is a hoop bracket thing to hold the speedo cable in position, this should be mounted on the outer side of the caliper mounting bracket and held in position by the caliper bolt. Instead, this was mounted in between the caliper and the mounting, the caliper spaced out at the bottom with washers to compensate.
So the PO bolts up the caliper arseways so it's off centre and doesn't think to remove the guide but spaces off the other end of the caliper instead? That's the dumbest thing I've heard of in a while.
So the PO bolts up the caliper arseways so it's off centre and doesn't think to remove the guide but spaces off the other end of the caliper instead? That's the dumbest thing I've heard of in a while.
Yup.
Any clues on the high idle? Am I on the right track?
Sid Squid
19-05-12, 09:37 PM
Well there's always the obvious 'does the throttle shut properly?' But I doubt that has passed you by. Assuming it does then the necessary air to make it go quicker must come from somewhere, so non-shutting chokes and air leaks is the next step.
another little job to the list...the bloody fuel light doesnt work. Just found out the hard way, ar$e
andrewsmith
20-05-12, 05:50 PM
How far did you have to push?
rictus01
20-05-12, 05:51 PM
so how heavy is the ducati then.....:smt102
I've to do the test on the new bike myself, you know the gallon of petrol in a can on the back of the bike and ride until the bike is empty, just to see what the light will give me, as I can't push a bike anymore that sort of thing becomes important.
Hope it wasn't to much hassle
How far did you have to push?
about 1/2 a mile luckily, flat road too :-)
so how heavy is the ducati then.....:smt102
Actually, it's a very small light bike compared even to the SV650. Wasnt too bad at all really, even if it was a beautiful sunny day....
Got it on the ramp after getting home, traced the fuel sensor to the now fairly familiar bundle of black insulation tape. Jeez. Stripped the wires and fitted proper bullet connectors, it now works.
The Ducati Bodgester is happy again.
rictus01
20-05-12, 06:40 PM
Cool, nice one, at least all this means at the end of the day you'll know the bike well.
Cool, nice one, at least all this means at the end of the day you'll know the bike well.
Yeah, there is that. This thing seems to be covered in botched wiring repairs, usually on wires that lead to something that didn't work! It's in pretty nice shape now though.
I started looking at the high idle, the carbs are miles out of synch. I did notice that the idle adjuster and synch adjuster are literally next to each other, makes me very suspicious that one has been tweaked in place of the other. I'll whip the carbs out and give them a proper once over at the weekend.
andrewsmith
21-05-12, 10:11 AM
Not cheaper to buy a new harness
Not cheaper to buy a new harness
nah, most of it is fine.
Icanopit
21-05-12, 12:52 PM
Its all part of the Ducati experience???
Mixture screw and carb balance. Once I had got the carbs balanced I placed a rubber bung/cap over the screw.
But do'nt do like me 20 minutes ago and have a bike in flames IL4 one cylinder down plug out and started OHHHHHHHHHHH dear.
I think I may have found the cause. I had the carbs out of the bike to give them a good close look.
Apart from being crudded up with all sorts (the carbs are exposed to the elements and anything thrown up by the front wheel) I found a problem with the carb sync screw itself. Either its the wrong screw size or more likely the threaded hole has opened up. The thread engaged a little but easily slipped.
So, I've ditched the original screw and replaced with an M4 allen screw that fits a treat. I managed to balance the carbs fairly easily after that.
The idle screw was caked in crap and rust also, cleaned that like new.
New chain, new sprockets, new rear wheel bearings. It runs beautifully. Think I'll leave it well alone for now, get some miles on it first. Next job will be to strip and service the forks.
I notice the rear shock has a valve to recharge the gas. Anybody know if air is suitable or does it need to be nitrogen?
Geodude
27-05-12, 02:43 PM
Nice one and well spotted, hope the m4 does the trick and you get a chance to enjoy the bike :)
andrewsmith
27-05-12, 05:25 PM
Nitrogen to my knowledge. Is it a Showa or Sacs unit?
Nice one and well spotted, hope the m4 does the trick and you get a chance to enjoy the bike :)
Yep, job done. We've been out for a few hours, revs are sorted.
Nitrogen to my knowledge. Is it a Showa or Sacs unit?
No idea what type, I'll have to take a look.
Icanopit
27-05-12, 05:55 PM
Well sorted FLYMO, rear shock probably a "Sachs" I was lucky mine came with Ohlins.
I do have a garage find pair of carbs "if" any parts can be of use. Hope the good lady appreciates ALL of your efforts haha
JOHN
yorkie_chris
27-05-12, 07:20 PM
I notice the rear shock has a valve to recharge the gas. Anybody know if air is suitable or does it need to be nitrogen?
Air is suitable so long as it is dry.
Even slightly wet air isn't the end of the world but it results in greater pressure change between hot and cold and possible corrosion in piston type reservoirs.
Air is suitable so long as it is dry.
Even slightly wet air isn't the end of the world but it results in greater pressure change between hot and cold and possible corrosion in piston type reservoirs.
mmm, I dont have a moisture catch on my air line. Might nip it down to the local garage and get 'em to give me a squirt of nitrogen in there. Any idea what pressure these typically run at?
yorkie_chris
27-05-12, 07:44 PM
Post a pic of shock, I'm not familiar with them but can probably get you in ballpark.
http://img.tapatalk.com/5696eba8-8e03-6a4b.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/5696eba8-8e18-04d4.jpg
yorkie_chris
27-05-12, 08:33 PM
Looks like sachs, AFAIK they are pretty high like 200+psi, but I don't know the exact spec.
Cheers Chris, I'll do some digging around and see if I can identify the exact one. I'm sure there'll be some detailed spec out there somewhere.
No hurry, want get the mrs to put some miles on it first. She's doing fine considering not ridden a bike in 10 years.
Icanopit
28-05-12, 12:14 PM
Hi FLYMO, perhaps the following link will at least give a contact number for info, a lot of riders deal/glean informtion from MotoRapido they seem to have a very good reputation ??
http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=33908&highlight=sachs+shock
JOHN
Have bought parts from MotoRapido, they seem reasonable.
How come I'm in CAPITALS all the time? ;-)
Icanopit
28-05-12, 04:24 PM
:-({|= just old fashioned me im afraid, when addressing a comment to someone specific, but of course then horses were still in use and I learned to scribble with chalk on a slate but "Scotts" were built in our back yard heyho ramblings of an oldie :smt044
this is the bike that just keeps on giving....now we have a fuel leak. :smt013
Started her up last night to check all was well with the battery holding its charge, started fuel pi$$ing out of the carb overflow.
I suspect a sticky float bowl valve.
I'm in two minds now whether I should either never ever even consider buying one of these... or buy one & drop it round at your house for a couple of months with several hundred pounds & some tea bags :)
I'm still convinced that the cause is poor maintenance rather than Ducati engineering, wonder if this is what it feels like to be Rossi :-)
cant imagine rossi getting in the garage and working on his race bike .. keep up the good work..hopefully the end is in sight
hang on a sec, there is no 'float bowl overflow' as such, I think this is a fuel drain hose. Wonder if the drain screw is knackered.
Sid Squid
30-05-12, 12:47 PM
There will be a inlet that allows atmospheric pressure to act on the upper face of the fuel in the bowl and cause a pressure difference and fuel flow across the jets, ordinarily there's a hose on that. If the needle valve lets by the fuel will rise high enough for it to flow from there eventually.
ok, I was looking for a fuel tap. It looks like thats pressure operated from one of the engine inlets. Perhaps that isnt working properly. I also found that one of the drain plugs was allowing fuel past, not sure why that was loose as I've never touched it before today.
And, sods law says that one of the fuel bowl screws wont undo. I'll get it out and probably replace them all with M5 cap head screws instead. I've been spoiled with fuel injection the past few years, oh the joys of carbs :-)
vacuum fuel tap is working, could just be that the drain screw had worked loose. a bit strange though.
Think I'll get a new set of float bowl gaskets and whip it back together.
I see this thread has gone from look I brought a great looking bike to its broken in 9 pages, then I read the title "Monster 600".
Still its a great looking bike and I´m very jealous not to have one; I believe last time I vaguely mentioned purchasing such a vehicle in the same vicinity as some sane .orgers I was told that I would be spannering that bike alone if I did so. I believe the same sane people are helping identify some of your problems ;)
I hope you get it fixed soon.
Sid Squid
31-05-12, 06:44 AM
A Monster 600 is a great bike :cool:, this one seems to suffered from one or more unsympathetic previous owners but I'm sure the new owners are up to the challenge. Thus far nothing too serious or expensive seems amiss.
It's all good fun, and even though it's a bike that development has left behind, I really like them and there's no denying the cool factor of a Ducati.
Exactly, other than the frankly bizarre design of the sidestand, none of what I have found can be blamed on Ducati so far. All down to poor (read 'no') maintenance.
I quite enjoy spannering. I've built, serviced, maintained and ridden all my bikes/racebikes for 15 years or so and know my way fairly well around a motorcycle. I could quietly go about fixing stuff but more enjoyable to share that with a like minded community such as this one. There's always the added bonus that I and others may learn something from the experience also.
As for the Monster, I'm really impressed with it. It's no sports bike but its very easy to ride and bloody comfy if I'm honest. And so far, everywhere we've been with it, nobody gives a damn about the SV1000 or any other sports bike that we park up along side. its always the Ducati that everyone asks about. It certainly has cool factor.
had the carbs off and inspected the fuel bowls, float valves etc. All seemed ok, removed cleaned and refitted the drain screws and it appears to have stopped. Strange, but at least its not leaking any more.
While I had the engine running and tank up I noticed the battery bubbling away. Aha! that might explain the dry battery, it was getting nearly 19v with the engine running. New reg/rec.....
yorkie_chris
01-06-12, 08:17 AM
its always the Ducati that everyone asks about..
In much the same way as you'd get funny looks if walking into a pub carrying a handbag? :smt082
In much the same way as you'd get funny looks if walking into a pub carrying a handbag? :smt082
ha ha! I never thought about it like that :-)
Sid Squid
02-06-12, 06:52 AM
nearly 19v with the engine running.
:shock:
Poor battery :(.
Urbanfireblade
03-06-12, 07:52 PM
thread repaired, new throttle cables fitted. The throttle is now as smooth as can be :-).
Apparently this bike had been really well looked after, my ar$e. Brake lights not working - fixed. Clutch lever binding - fixed. Rear foot pegs held in position with elastic bands - now fitted properly, clunk into position without elastic bands. Dodgy rear wheel bearing - on the list. Chain and sprockets look like they've done a about 1,000,000 miles - yet to be replaced. The front forks dive like a Liverpool player - oil probably hasn't seen the light of day in years - on the list. Oil leaking from the oil filter - next on the list.
So, it wasnt in great nick, now it's lovely. :-)
Jeez, I bought my M600 Monster Dark today. I love it! Got none of the problems u seem to have. And I thought mine wasnt best kept, lol! Worst ive had to sort is only 22psi in the tyres, and adjusting the steering lock stops so the forks dont hit the tank. I got an '01 plate btw.
The noise on full throttle coming up from the airbox is heaven!!! Mines 100% standard too, 20k miles.
Urbanfireblade
03-06-12, 08:06 PM
I think u may have a bad'un. They are actually good bikes, reliable too!
andrewsmith
03-06-12, 08:08 PM
found a another dog of a 600 in Newcastle.
It looks like its been in the Tyne
I think u may have a bad'un. They are actually good bikes, reliable too!
Had a bad'un, its almost as right as rain now.
rictus01
03-06-12, 08:26 PM
there are no "bad" bikes, just the wrong price to pay for them, if it's cheap enough you don't mind the work.
Cheers Mark.
dizzyblonde
03-06-12, 08:42 PM
Exactly, other than the frankly bizarre design of the sidestand, none of what I have found can be blamed on Ducati so far. All down to poor (read 'no') maintenance.
Whats wrong with the sidestand?
All Italian sidestand lean more to the upright than they should :rolleyes:
Don't move too close now(or breath on it).....it might just fall over:thumbdown:
Urbanfireblade
03-06-12, 08:55 PM
Had a bad'un, its almost as right as rain now.
Ah, thats good to hear! Get some miles on it, and let us know what you think.
yorkie_chris
03-06-12, 08:57 PM
Ah, thats good to hear! Get some miles on it, and let us know what you think.
Wheezing wop seemed a worthy title when I tried one :-P
Sid Squid
03-06-12, 11:24 PM
Wheezing wop seemed a worthy title when I tried one :-P
:D:D
Funny, but harsh - they're not that slow, and they ride nicely.
m`baubz
04-06-12, 06:45 AM
Whats wrong with the sidestand?
if i were to adjust the gear lever to suit my somewhat limited movement in the left foot, the sidestand would only allow me to shift up. tested.
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