Cyclists... mini rant :)

[SuzukiNess]

Had to take the cat to the vet this morning and since i need the excercise i thought I'd walk home instead of paying £5 for a taxi... walking across the Narrow footbridge over the motorway I feel something nudge/bump me from behind... turn around and there is, what i could only describe as a *** on wheels giving me the beady eye and shaking his head...

yeah, he was clearly trying to get past but FFS was it necessary to ride into me?? and bar the fact that there is a MASSIVE sign just before the bridge that says CYCLISTS DISMOUNT, the bridge ain't wide enough for two people let alone a cyclist and me :) When I politely pointed out the sign to him he replied, "i dont need to follow the rules, I make my own" and off he went... tutututut :toss:

Funny thing is that this was a respectively dressed well spoken man and not some skanky yob..

I have tried to be patient with cyclists while on the bike after someone posted on the org about them being slower etc etc, (it was a food for thought moment) but it just takes one **** on wheels to make me dislike them even more..:smt019:rolleyes: horrible things those cyclists ;) :mrgreen:

anybody else had "encounters" with a **** on wheels?

[EssexDave]

Don't need to tarnish us all from the attitudes of one cyclist!

[SoulKiss]

Had to take the cat to the vet this morning and since i need the excercise i thought I'd walk home instead of paying £5 for a taxi... walking across the Narrow footbridge over the motorway I feel something nudge/bump me from behind... turn around and there is, what i could only describe as a **** on wheels giving me the beady eye and shaking his head...

yeah, he was clearly trying to get past but FFS was it necessary to ride into me?? and bar the fact that there is a MASSIVE sign just before the bridge that says CYCLISTS DISMOUNT, the bridge aint wide enough for two people let alone a cyclist and me :) When I politely pointed out the sign to him he replied, "i dont need to follow the rules, I make my own" and off he went... tutututut :toss:

Funny thing is that this was a respectively dressed well spoken man and not some skanky yob..

I have tried to be patient with cyclists while on the bike after someone posted on the org about them being slower etc etc, (it was a food for thought moment) but it just takes one **** on wheels to make me dislike them even more..:smt019:rolleyes: horrible things those cyclists ;) :mrgreen:

anybody else had "encounters" with a **** on wheels?

Report it to the police.

He was cycling on a footpath and assaulted you by hitting you.

He probably uses the bridge daily at that time, so there is a chance he will get caught.

He has stated he is above the law - maybe some nice policeperson would like to prove him wrong.

[Luckypants]

You get ****s on motorcycles, in cars, driving vans, driving lorries, etc etc so why be surprised if some ride cycles? Treat a cycling **** the same as any other ****...

Now if he had done that to me, I'd probably pitch him off his bike over the side of the bridge and onto the motorway (well in my head anyway) and shout after him, I make my own rules too...

I have to agree that there are some right tits on bikes, even if I am one of them!

[SuzukiNess]

Don't need to tarnish us all from the attitudes of one cyclist!

i aint... hence the smiley faces after "horrible things them cyclists" get back on your bike and go smack some mirrors off a **** in a car :)

[Spank86]

I wouldnt have moved out of the way while I pointed out the sign.

Then I would have had the chance to reply, "so do I", and make him wait whilst I loitered about the bridge for a while... Or thrown the bike over it, that would be fun.

[SuzukiNess]

lol a LP.. he was bigger than me :) i did laugh it him which probably made him even more irate - maybe he was late for a very important business meeting :) hehehe

SK - not too bothered, he'll do it to the wrong person one day and LuckyPants justice may be served :)

[pookie]

you cyclists are all the same..2 wheeled terrorists ;)
+1 on the reporting it to the police.. their day will come.

Just to make you feel better its not just cyclists, general manners and attitude has gone down hill with many people taking that I'm above the law attitude.

Chin up , move on be happy :) ..oh btw I was joking about the wheeled terrorists

[maviczap]

Don't need to tarnish us all from the attitudes of one cyclist!

+1

Report it to the police.

He was cycling on a footpath and assaulted you by hitting you.

He probably uses the bridge daily at that time, so there is a chance he will get caught.

He has stated he is above the law - maybe some nice policeperson would like to prove him wrong.

+1

You get ****s on motorcycles, in cars, driving vans, driving lorries, etc etc so why be surprised if some ride cycles? Treat a cycling **** the same as any other ****...

Now if he had done that to me, I'd probably pitch him off his bike over the side of the bridge and onto the motorway (well in my head anyway) and shout after him, I make my own rules too...

I have to agree that there are some right tits on bikes, even if I am one of them!

+1 (not the part about you being a tit :-D)

As a cyclist, I would've dismounted, I can't stand these kind of people who think they can ignore the rules & signs

Next time stick a big stick through his front wheel for instant retardation, so it might knock some sense into his big thick head.

You have my permission as a cyclist to do this, as ones like this don't do us any favours

[speedplay]

Just out of interest, how wide is your ar$e....?

Just a thought, maybe he was just trying to park.

[mufman]

There are really many "militant" cyclists out there..... It looks like a skill you gain after riding it in cities...haven't seen so many s***rs in the countryside.

One should be almost scare to point out to cyclist in London that he might consider riding it on the side of the road and not in the middle while there are cars and motorbikes behind him. I tried about 3 times in last two months...either by short blow of the horn or short slight rev and I always received an angry shouting and wild hand movements...:shock: One of them was even a boy around 12 years old...he was riding behind his friend, bus came by, he looked back, saw me on the bike and decided to go to the middle of the lane next to his friend in front of me. So I slightly revved it to remind him that I'm there and he turned around with an angry face and shouting...:shock: I thought I was dreaming...since I was already going bit faster than him and he went a bit on the side I passed him but than I closed the throtlle for a while and going to stop and teach him a lesson....but than I thought it's only a 12 years old boy..feck it I won't beat a little boy on the street (although who knows what he's going to grew up in without getting a "lesson" from someone). I probably just wait for some adult...I think it's only a matter of time with their attitude that my nerves will finally break and I'll simply just stop the bike, put it on the side stand and go to ask him personally.

[stewie]

There are really many "militant" cyclists out there..... It looks like a skill you gain after riding it in cities...haven't seen so many s***rs in the countryside.

One should be almost scare to point out to cyclist in London that he might consider riding it on the side of the road and not in the middle while there are cars and motorbikes behind him. I tried about 3 times in last two months...either by short blow of the horn or short slight rev and I always received an angry shouting and wild hand movements...:shock: One of them was even a boy around 12 years old...he was riding behind his friend, bus came by, he looked back, saw me on the bike and decided to go to the middle of the lane next to his friend in front of me. So I slightly revved it to remind him that I'm there and he turned around with an angry face and shouting...:shock: I thought I was dreaming...since I was already going bit faster than him and he went a bit on the side I passed him but than I closed the throtlle for a while and going to stop and teach him a lesson....but than I thought it's only a 12 years old boy..feck it I won't beat a little boy on the street (although who knows what he's going to grew up in without getting a "lesson" from someone). I probably just wait for some adult...I think it's only a matter of time with their attitude that my nerves will finally break and I'll simply just stop the bike, put it on the side stand and go to ask him personally.
Come up behind me on me bike and start blowing your horn you'll get a few gestures from me too, christ almighty have you any idea how vunerable you are on a pushbike ? even compared to a motorbike ?

[AndyBrad]

i hate people in general now, doesnt matter if they are on a bike, car,walking or whatever! im 32 and im sure in "the past" we use to be polite and people would gladly move out of your way if required. Or you would wait as their was obviously a reason for somone not moving. Now you get people cutting you up everywhere 10 in cars, cyclists thing red lights dont count and 10 year old kids that take the ****.

Where did it all go wrong. Im sure it wasnt like this before tony blair got in :)

[stewie]

here in warrington they've widened quite a few footpaths and created a cycle lane as part of it, its a good idea but its usually unuseable cos of the amount of pedestrians using the cycle path part of it, so its back to the roads and having to watch everything around you constantly, theres no excuse for barging in to you at all, I always though pedestrians had priority over cyclists anyway

[Small Clanger]

I find this kind of behaviour shocking. Making a poorly cat walk home from the vets just to save a fiver.

[mufman]

Come up behind me on me bike and start blowing your horn you'll get a few gestures from me too, christ almighty have you any idea how vunerable you are on a pushbike ? even compared to a motorbike ?

I have an idea how vulnerable you are on a pushbike (tried it once in London and won't do any more), but if you ride in the middle of the lane for no reason with motorbikes and cars behind you than I'd say you don't.....

EDIT: And this your kind of a aggresive quick response nicely proves what I just wrote about !some! cyclists...

[EssexDave]

This is a complete de-rail but having read some of the comments I feel as a cyclist I have to put it.

Just as cars drivers may not understand motorcyclists' actions, people that do not cycle regularly may not understand cyclists' actions.

cycling in the middle of the road, sometimes is the safest place to be, and I'm sorry if that holds someone up for 2 minutes, but my safety is of greater concern to me than your journey. I don't think that's that selfish, I see my safety as important as yours.

At certain points on roads I cycle I will sit in the middle of the road for 'no reason' because I know about turnings coming up, bends etc - generally speaking these are roads with solid white lines that people ignore as I rarely travel less than 12mph on these roads I'm thinking of.

When a car overtakes a push bike and realises there is a car 20ft ahead that they couldn't spot because of a hill/bend/being blind the first reaction is to move back into their lane. This normally involves a crunching of a cyclist.

It is my perrogative as a road user to position myself where I deem it to be safe - and that is not necessarily where you deem it to be safe.

A bit of patience, a bit of understanding and everyone can just calm down a bit and not get so stressed about other road users.

[stewie]

I have an idea how vulnerable you are on a pushbike (tried it once in London and won't do any more), but if you ride in the middle of the lane for no reason with motorbikes and cars behind you than I'd say you don't.....

EDIT: And this your kind of a aggresive quick response nicely proves what I just wrote about !some! cyclists...
I just cant beleive you'd go up behind people blowing your horn or revving your engine, im a wagon driver, if i sat two feet off your back end and blew my horn or revved my engine would you be happy ? btw ask anyone who knows me on here I'm the least aggressive bloke you'll meet :)

[mufman]

This is a complete de-rail but having read some of the comments I feel as a cyclist I have to put it.

Just as cars drivers may not understand motorcyclists' actions, people that do not cycle regularly may not understand cyclists' actions.

cycling in the middle of the road, sometimes is the safest place to be, and I'm sorry if that holds someone up for 2 minutes, but my safety is of greater concern to me than your journey. I don't think that's that selfish, I see my safety as important as yours.

At certain points on roads I cycle I will sit in the middle of the road for 'no reason' because I know about turnings coming up, bends etc - generally speaking these are roads with solid white lines that people ignore as I rarely travel less than 12mph on these roads I'm thinking of.

When a car overtakes a push bike and realises there is a car 20ft ahead that they couldn't spot because of a hill/bend/being blind the first reaction is to move back into their lane. This normally involves a crunching of a cyclist.

It is my perrogative as a road user to position myself where I deem it to be safe - and that is not necessarily where you deem it to be safe.

A bit of patience, a bit of understanding and everyone can just calm down a bit and not get so stressed about other road users.

Fair enough, if it is for a safety purposes I have no problem with that. But simply can't see the safety reason there sometimes. Like that small boy I just wrote about. He turned his head, saw me behind him and went right in to my way, risking we'd crash into each other (I had to break) just to talk to his friend. All that done on the beginning of the bridge = no crossroads, no bends...

I used to cycle a lot when I was younger but mostly on MTB doing XC (because I don't feel safe at all on the road) so I am not someone who doesn't know what a push bike is, don't get me wrong.

[EssexDave]

Muffman that wasn't a personal dig at your or anyone else in the thread. These come up time and time again with one person stating some tit on a bike/car/whatever has done something, and people jump on the bandwagon and some of the opinions just seem a bit OTT.

I appreciate in that case the little boy was probably in the wrong and been a bit of an idiot too, but a lot of people don't understand the reasoning behind why other road users do something. As I said, it is your perrogative as a road user to stick yourself where you think it is safe (within the confines of the law)

[SoulKiss]

lol a LP.. he was bigger than me :) i did laugh it him which probably made him even more irate - maybe he was late for a very important business meeting :) hehehe

SK - not too bothered, he'll do it to the wrong person one day and LuckyPants justice may be served :)

You should still report it

[mufman]

I just cant beleive you'd go up behind people blowing your horn or revving your engine, im a wagon driver, if i sat two feet off your back end and blew my horn or revved my engine would you be happy ? btw ask anyone who knows me on here I'm the least aggressive bloke you'll meet :)

I won't be happy but if I would be going 1/3 of your speed, blocking your way with no reason and putting you in a tricky (if not dangerous) situation than I'd take it with no complain because I deserved it.

And I think you missunderstand me with the revving. You probably overlooked the word "slightly". That means that I am cruising between 3-4,5t rpms (my normale pace while commuting), I disengage the clucth, revs goes down almost to idle and with disengaged cluth I do a gentle twist with my right wrist getting the rpms to approximately 5-5,5t rpms and immidietaly falling down again and engaging the clutch. I consider this to be a gentle, nice and in no way offensive way of how to remind someone who might just overlooked or overheard me that I am behind him. That certainly doesn't mean that I hold the bike in 10t rpms for 30 seconds while simultaneously spitting lightings and farting thunders :)

You know what actually, I believe that in real world you ride your push bike and me my motorbike in different ways than it has come up from these few written letters and I believe that if we would meet on the road we probably would just have a friendly talk on the red lights about the starting rain and us getting wet :) But it wouldn't change my opinion about some cyclists I have the honor to meet. No hard feelings mate:thumright:

[stewie]

You should still report it
Especially if he was carrying or using any Apple products :D

[mufman]

Muffman that wasn't a personal dig at your or anyone else in the thread. These come up time and time again with one person stating some tit on a bike/car/whatever has done something, and people jump on the bandwagon and some of the opinions just seem a bit OTT.

I appreciate in that case the little boy was probably in the wrong and been a bit of an idiot too, but a lot of people don't understand the reasoning behind why other road users do something. As I said, it is your perrogative as a road user to stick yourself where you think it is safe (within the confines of the law)

Agree with you. We're on the same page :)

[stewie]

I won't be happy but if I would be going 1/3 of your speed, blocking your way with no reason and putting you in a tricky (if not dangerous) situation than I'd take it with no complain because I deserved it.

And I think you missunderstand me with the revving. You probably overlooked the word "slightly". That means that I am cruising between 3-4,5t rpms (my normale pace while commuting), I disengage the clucth, revs goes down almost to idle and with disengaged cluth I do a gentle twist with my right wrist getting the rpms to approximately 5-5,5t rpms and immidietaly falling down again and engaging the clutch. I consider this to be a gentle, nice and in no way offensive way of how to remind someone who might just overlooked or overheard me that I am behind him. That certainly doesn't mean that I hold the bike in 10t rpms for 30 seconds while simultaneously spitting lightings and farting thunders :)

You know what actually, I believe that in real world you ride your push bike and me my motorbike in different ways than it has come up from these few written letters and I believe that if we would meet on the road we probably would just have a friendly talk on the red lights about the starting rain and us getting wet :) But it wouldn't change my opinion about some cyclists I have the honor to meet. No hard feelings mate:thumright:
No worries, none taken :D

[SuzukiNess]

I find this kind of behaviour shocking. Making a poorly cat walk home from the vets just to save a fiver.

Cat was transported to the VET by taxi and left there... i walked home on me own... the cat was then collected by taxi :) :smt019:mrgreen:

[SuzukiNess]

Just out of interest, how wide is your ar$e....?

Just a thought, maybe he was just trying to park.

just slightly bigger than your pea sized brain

[speedplay]

Harsh.

[AndyBrad]

But fair.

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[yorkie_chris]

"i dont need to follow the rules, I make my own" and off he went... tutututut :toss:

Funny thing is that this was a respectively dressed well spoken man and not some skanky yob..

anybody else had "encounters" with a **** on wheels?

For some people getting the living sh*t kicked out of them is the only cure...

Come up behind me on me bike and start blowing your horn you'll get a few gestures from me too, christ almighty have you any idea how vunerable you are on a pushbike ? even compared to a motorbike ?

I just cant beleive you'd go up behind people blowing your horn or revving your engine,

A quick "meepmeep" from the pathetic SV horn is far more of an "I'm here... hellooo" than a "MOVE YA C***!!!"

And is perfectly acceptable.*

I hold the bike in 10t rpms for 30 seconds while simultaneously spitting lightings and farting thunders :)

I see no reason for lycra inclined tw*ts to be deliberately in the way.

When I ride a push iron I fully accept that having paid no road tax, and being missing of the rather vital engine component I am not part of the whole "road" thing and therefore do my best to stay out of the way.

Militant cyclits have no place on the road, it is every road users duty to reducate these spackers until they behave.
Holding it at 10k rpms is not good for the engine. You should instead accelerate smoothly up to 10k rpm, maybe in 2nd or 3rd gear. And aim to pass by close enough that said mong ends up in a canal.

[dizzyblonde]

Is there nobody sorely tempted to slap the ar$e of wobbly lycra clad person on a pushbike, when they clearly know they are hogging a road?


I am, and several people have seen me gesture this 'hypothetical slap' as I approach them! That pert pink buttcheek is just ripe for a good smack.....purely to see if it wobbles like its owner.

[andrewsmith]

Is there nobody sorely tempted to slap the ar$e of wobbly lycra clad person on a pushbike, when they clearly know they are hogging a road?


I am, and several people have seen me gesture this 'hypothetical slap' as I approach them! That pert pink buttcheek is just ripe for a good smack.....purely to see if it wobbles like its owner.

:cheers:

Your not the only one!

YC I thought that was what the M4 was designed for not the horn*
*Unless it is SoulKisses Zed

[speedplay]

Is there nobody sorely tempted to slap the ar$e of wobbly lycra clad person on a pushbike, when they clearly know they are hogging a road?


I am, and several people have seen me gesture this 'hypothetical slap' as I approach them! That pert pink buttcheek is just ripe for a good smack.....purely to see if it wobbles like its owner.

Paging Paul 6th....

[maviczap]

When I ride a push iron I fully accept that having paid no road tax, and being missing of the rather vital engine component I am not part of the whole "road" thing and therefore do my best to stay out of the way.l.

No such thing, it was abolished by Winston Churchill

Its vehicle excise duty, and calculated on vehicles Co2 emissions.

Bicycles don't emit C02, although the rider probably does, but no ones calculated how much :-D

http://ipayroadtax.com/

Paying for roads comes out of general taxation which I pay my more than my fair share :twisted:

[yorkie_chris]

No such thing, it was abolished by Winston Churchill

Its vehicle excise duty, and calculated on vehicles Co2 emissions.

Bicycles don't emit C02, although the rider probably does, but no ones calculated how much :-D

http://ipayroadtax.com/

Paying for roads comes out of general taxation which I pay my more than my fair share :twisted:

Semantics... boll*cks...

You could also apply that logic to the lack of a (very expensive!) licence... it all translates to the road needing some respect so if you're on a push iron and can't keep up then stay out of the f***ing way where possible! It's only polite!

[Spank86]

Its vehicle excise duty, and calculated on vehicles Co2 emissions.
Only on new cars.


And technically EVERYTHING comes out of general taxation (it all goes in one big pot), but without VED they wouldnt have enough IN the taxation to maintain the roads (apparently we don't even with it but thats another issue).

[maviczap]

Semantics... boll*cks...

You could also apply that logic to the lack of a (very expensive!) licence... it all translates to the road needing some respect so if you're on a push iron and can't keep up then stay out of the f***ing way where possible! It's only polite!

Being polite would be to give all road users the time and space, rather than using your way of thinking

[littleoldman2]

It is my perrogative as a road user to position myself where I deem it to be safe - and that is not necessarily where you deem it to be safe.


I don't disagree with you but suggest you read this thread. http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=178629

[maviczap]

Only on new cars.


And technically EVERYTHING comes out of general taxation (it all goes in one big pot), but without VED they wouldnt have enough IN the taxation to maintain the roads (apparently we don't even with it but thats another issue).

Partially true, older vehicles VED is calculated differently to new vehicles, which changed in April 2010, but its still a tax on vehicles.

Yes, VED isn't bringing the same revenue as it used to,which is why Toll roads are the next thing. Time to get a helicopter :D

[Spank86]

It's still bringing in more than the costs of motoring.

I read that site and some of those so called "costs", make incredible leaps to prove that motoring is subsidised, I mean they seem to be expecting anyone who doesnt drive to be running the same distance every day for a start and to be immaculately healthy until they die of something inexpensive.

Its a site with a heavy agenda and it'll bend any statistic to prove it. (which doesnt mean i think cyclists should pay VED, I reserve that position for horses.)

[Wideboy]

i agree with andybrad. Everyone on the road is a ****, doesnt matter who or what they're driving. I often scream blue murder at old ladies from the van, whilst they swift across lanes with no sense of direction or consideration of anything outside their car seat

every road user is a ****!

[dizzyblonde]

Paging Paul 6th....

Did it smart? :smt079:lol:

[fizzwheel]

it all translates to the road needing some respect so if you're on a push iron and can't keep up then stay out of the f***ing way where possible! It's only polite!

I agree with you Chris, but riding in the gutter and keeping out of the way invites cars to make a close overtake or squeeze you out of the way, as they'll try and get past when there really isnt room to do so safely.

I will take up a defensive position and ride in way the owns my space when I am on my pushbike, its for that reason i.e. I am protecting myself. Its not different to defensive riding techniques on a motorbike.

We should be finding ways to work around each other and be tolerant of other road users, if we could find away to share the road space, we could all go about our business alot faster.

I've had people try to overtake me when I am doing 30mph in a 30mph limit area, then when they realise they cant make it past then they just drift back to the left and try to run me off the road.

I blame the media, its "cool or the done thing" to hate cyclists. So that makes us an acceptable target in many peoples eyes.

Just makes me sad that many people will devalue one persons life, just because of the form of transport they choose to use.

[Spank86]

Plus there's a lot of junk in the gutter as well as drainage grills and the like that sit in massive dips to stuff you up.

[speedplay]

it all translates to the road needing some respect so if you're on a push iron and can't keep up then stay out of the f***ing way where possible! It's only polite!


Respect works both ways.

My cars taxed and insured so is my car.

If I want to ride any of my push bikes on the road I will.
If I needed insurance for it, it would be insured and taxed as appropriate.
Until the day that tax and insurance is needed for cyclists, you will just have to respect their right to use roads without them.

[maviczap]

We should be finding ways to work around each other and be tolerant of other road users, if we could find away to share the road space, we could all go about our business alot faster.

Yep, which was discussed on BBC morning news the other day, between IAM rep & CTC spokesperson.


I've had people try to overtake me when I am doing 30mph in a 30mph limit area, then when they realise they cant make it past then they just drift back to the left and try to run me off the road. happened to me the other day


I blame the media, its "cool or the done thing" to hate cyclists. So that makes us an acceptable target in many peoples eyes.

Yep, and mostly based on city cyclists who don't follow the highway code, jump red lights etc, etc. Which is not the norm


Just makes me sad that many people will devalue one persons life, just because of the form of transport they choose to use.

Yep, travel across the Channel and the attitude towards cyclists & motorcyclists is totally different to the blinkered and narrow minded attitude of most UK drivers.

Its also sad that the original posting about one rogue cyclist has developed into another 'lets bash the cyclists' for wanting their piece of tarmac

[speedplay]

Makes me chuckle that my mountain bikes are all worth more than the average sv on here too :)

[fizzwheel]

Makes me chuckle that my mountain bikes are all worth more than the average sv on here too :)

My road bike is the same. I reckon its worth more than my GSXR is now.

[speedplay]

Just ordered my new Mountain Bike a penny under 3k.

Twice what I've paid for both the SV I had :)

[maviczap]

Makes me chuckle that my mountain bikes are all worth more than the average sv on here too :)

My road bike is the same. I reckon its worth more than my GSXR is now.

You two are just adding fuel to the fire :mrgreen:

So's mine

Muuuuuuuuuhahahaha

[andrewsmith]

My road bike is the same. I reckon its worth more than my GSXR is now.

Just ordered my new Mountain Bike a penny under 3k.

Twice what I've paid for both the SV I had :)

You two are just adding fuel to the fire :mrgreen:

So's mine

Muuuuuuuuuhahahaha

£3K for a push iron!
You lot are bloody mad!

[fizzwheel]

:D

Back on track slightly...

I think this situation is only going to get worse.

Petrol / Diesel prices continue to rise
Cost of living increases

Will drive more people to consider commuting to work by bicycle, especially with the current drive to be seen as a "green" employer and reduce the amount of employee's using their cars to get to and from work. I think has and will see more people commuting by bicycle. Especially as you can get a BSO ( bike shaped object ) very cheap now and even something reasonable from Halfords is only the equivalent of a couple of tanks of Diesel in something like our Audi.

What I dont understand is how people get on a pushbike and all their common sense goes out the window. IMHO by far the worse menace whilst cycling is other cyclists...

[speedplay]

£3K for a push iron!
You lot are bloody mad!


IRON?!

Carbon fibre thankyou :rolleyes:

[andrewsmith]

I'm so glad I don't work for a green employer!
We manage the most inefficient things in the world... Buildings

Your right the menace is other cyclists, hence why I don't commute on one

[Lozzo]

cycling in the middle of the road, sometimes is the safest place to be, and I'm sorry if that holds someone up for 2 minutes, but my safety is of greater concern to me than your journey. I don't think that's that selfish, I see my safety as important as yours.


If you want safety, don't ride a bicycle on a busy public road, end of.

If you lot think cyclists are militant where you live, try riding a motorcycle around Cambridge, where bicycles clog up every available space in the traffic, pathways, and yet the designated cycle paths are empty. 90% of the cyclists are of foreign origin, and most of the countries they come from don't regard traffic law or manners as a part of normal daily life.

It's no small wonder that cyclists are hated nationally when you see the disregard they have for other road and pathway users around here.

[andrewsmith]

IRON?!

Carbon fibre thankyou :rolleyes:

Carbon breakable ;)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vSg-oUFu4-I/Tg3gaWcc57I/AAAAAAAACk0/nqrQy3i31-A/s400/CharlotteTrek2.jpg

I should really chuck 2.25 road tyres on mine

[Spank86]

If you want safety, don't ride a bicycle on a busy public road, end of.


True... Or a motorbike come to that... In fact stay there on the sofa while I get you some bubble wrap.:D

[Lozzo]

Just ordered my new Mountain Bike a penny under 3k.

Twice what I've paid for both the SV I had :)

And it doesn't even come with an efficient engine. More fool you :-)

[speedplay]

Carbon breakable ;)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vSg-oUFu4-I/Tg3gaWcc57I/AAAAAAAACk0/nqrQy3i31-A/s400/CharlotteTrek2.jpg

I should really chuck 2.25 road tyres on mine

Snapped my trek road bike too.
load of crap!

[fizzwheel]

If you want safety, don't ride a bicycle on a busy public road, end of.

You could say the same about motorcycles though.

Thing is, its OK moan, whinge and generally bitch about the admittedly stupid things that some cyclists do.

But if some of the comments in this and other threads on this forum, the word cyclist, was replaced with the word motorcyclist, you'd all be frothing at the mouth calling for the executioner...

[maviczap]

If you lot think cyclists are militant where you live, try riding a motorcycle around Cambridge, where bicycles clog up every available space in the traffic, pathways, and yet the designated cycle paths are empty. 90% of the cyclists are of foreign origin, and most of the countries they come from don't regard traffic law or manners as a part of normal daily life.

It's no small wonder that cyclists are hated nationally when you see the disregard they have for other road and pathway users around here.

Again not really representative of the ordinary cyclist, its a bit off tangent

[andrewsmith]

Snapped my trek road bike too.
load of crap!

Have a look here

http://www.bustedcarbon.com/

[speedplay]

Have a look here

http://www.bustedcarbon.com/


old news and mostly old kit too ;)

[maviczap]

Have a look here

http://www.bustedcarbon.com/

That's Cannondales latest folding carbon bike

That's what Speedplay's just payed £3k for ;)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uXXH9Rgbt-8/TgyArFMMK3I/AAAAAAAACjk/6lqdtvoMwg8/s400/Unknown.jpg

[andrewsmith]

That's Cannondales latest folding carbon bike

That's what Speedplay's just payed £3k for ;)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uXXH9Rgbt-8/TgyArFMMK3I/AAAAAAAACjk/6lqdtvoMwg8/s400/Unknown.jpg

That wasn't DP's revenge was it?

[speedplay]

whyte is the new black MZ ;)

[fizzwheel]

Alot of those are crash damage though, Carbon is strong but only in the direction is been designed to take load in. I mean what do you expect if you forget your bike is on the roof rack and then drive your car into the garage...

[maviczap]

Alot of those are crash damage though, Carbon is strong but only in the direction is been designed to take load in. .

Or deliberately ignoring the manufacturers usage instructions :D

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eiI57wW-Rtc/T3r5yGQHPGI/AAAAAAAAZ7s/4ZtvKggP9Pc/s1600/Hincapie-Broken-Roubaix.jpg+(615%C3%97442).jpg

[dizzyblonde]

Think we should all go back to this

http://www.bmcindia.org/images/horse-1.jpg

Probably will one day!

#awaits forthcoming bunfight over horses on roads# :)

[maviczap]

#awaits forthcoming bunfight over horses on roads# :)

Yes, I'll start this one off, I had to steer round a great big mound of horse poo, whilst riding my aluminium push iron, forcing me out into the middle of the road, affecting my safety, all horses should be forced to wear a nappy :twisted: ;)

[dizzyblonde]

Yes, I'll start this one off, I had to steer round a great big mound of horse poo, forcing me out into the middle of the road, affecting my safety, all horses should be forced to wear a nappy :twisted: ;)

Should have carried a shovel, recycled it, good for yer garden ;)

[andrewsmith]

Yes, I'll start this one off, I had to steer round a great big mound of horse poo, whilst riding my aluminium push iron, forcing me out into the middle of the road, affecting my safety, all horses should be forced to wear a nappy :twisted: ;)

Going to say that to this lot?? ;)





http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/Australian_Mounted_Police_Victoria-edit1.jpg

[dizzyblonde]

:lol: and they are the biggest culprits for dropping a tonne in the middle of the road!!

It really is a tonne coming fromm one of those haha

[Balky001]

Think we should all go back to this

http://www.bmcindia.org/images/horse-1.jpg

Probably will one day!

#awaits forthcoming bunfight over horses on roads# :)

10 million of those on the road would really create a lot of plop. Very slippy.

I think there is a lack of peace and love on the road (that and pig mindedness, arrogance and little empathy). I wouldn't take it personally, you don't need to get eveywhere quickly or lose it if you are held up 15 seconds. But a stroppy twallop who is in the wrong will make you mad.

[Spank86]

I'd say it to them.

Although at least their horses are usually well, trained.

They used horses in warfare for thousands of years yet now apparently they can't be prevented from spooking at... Well anything basically.

[maviczap]

Going to say that to this lot?? ;)





http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/Australian_Mounted_Police_Victoria-edit1.jpg

Muuuuuhahaha :p

Due to cut backs all front line Police horses have been made redundant ;)

http://assets.ignitedusa.com/assets/images/2/9/4/LAW_LLP_Horse_web.jpg

[littleoldman2]

Think we should all go back to this

http://www.bmcindia.org/images/horse-1.jpg

Probably will one day!

#awaits forthcoming bunfight over horses on roads# :)

Never mind the roads get em on the plate.
Horse rump and chips with mushrooms nice.
I've got me hard hat on, fire away.

[dizzyblonde]

Never mind the roads get em on the plate.
Horse rump and chips with mushrooms nice.
I've got me hard hat on, fire away.


Seee, another reason to go 'horse'

Food!

I see a pattern here......

Going horse is the only way to go for the green brigade. Think about it

Transport
Fuel
Food
Fully recyclable, for many reasons....including glue:rolleyes:
Easily available in many models
Cheapish running costs, dependant on model
No tax
Runs in a variety of cc/bhp
Easy to breed compared to fabricate,

[Balky001]

Transport
Fuel
Food
Fully recyclable, for many reasons....including glue:rolleyes:
Easily available in many models
Cheapish running costs, dependant on model
No tax
Runs in a variety of cc/bhp
Easy to breed compared to fabricate,

Also would help to keep people fit!

[yorkie_chris]

Being polite would be to give all road users the time and space, rather than using your way of thinking

Fair's fair, when a couple of cyclists are pottering along in a considerate manner then I give them loads and loads of room.

[Dicky Ticker]

Yeh, then hit the kill switch and watch them wobble:D

[yorkie_chris]

Also would help to keep people fit!

Shovelling sh*t?

Cure unemployment too...

[Balky001]

Shovelling sh*t?

Cure unemployment too...

hah, didn't think of that benefit. I think there's some mileage in this, Clegg would love it

[Sir Trev]

I think there is a lack of peace and love on the road (that and pig mindedness, arrogance and little empathy).

This.

I ride my bicycle on the pavement in some places as it is a lot safer than the road, but I go at walking pace and always give way to pedestrians. Giving horses, cycles, other slower road users plenty of space and consideration, as I would want others to do to me, is only fair.

Bring back Public Information Films about the Green Cross Code (perhaps using someone a bit more "now" than Alvin Stardust or Dave "Darth Vader" Rowse), cycling proficiency tests and Tufty! Younger users will have to use something called YouTube to look these up...

Ignorant bottom feeders will not remember the Highway Code unless reminded on a regular basis, no matter what form of transport they use. Sad really.

[SoulKiss]

I ride my bicycle on the pavement in some places as it is a lot safer than the road

Ignorant bottom feeders will not remember the Highway Code unless reminded on a regular basis, no matter what form of transport they use. Sad really.

Doesn't the Highway code say not to cycle on Pavements?

Get off and push

[Spank86]

If the highway code told you to jump off a cliff would you do it?

[SoulKiss]

If the highway code told you to jump off a cliff would you do it?

And the point of that comment is?

[Spank86]

That just because the highway code suggests you do something doesnt mean you should.

Riding slowly along pavements is a reasonable action in many circumstances as long as you're careful and considerate.


One thing I dont get with cyclists is a lot of theim seem to insist on riding the wrong way up one way streets.

[SoulKiss]

That just because the highway code suggests you do something doesnt mean you should.

Riding slowly along pavements is a reasonable action in many circumstances as long as you're careful and considerate.

If its too dangerous to ride properly as described in the Highway Code, then simple, don't ride in that area.

Pavements are not for bicycles, so they should not be on them, end of.

My point was the person I replied to went from "I ride on the pavement" to "other cyclists should read the Highway Code"

[Spank86]

If its too dangerous to ride properly as described in the Highway Code, then simple, don't ride in that area.
Well that rules out England, Im struggling to plan a route to work that doesnt involve it though.:D


Pavements are not for bicycles, so they should not be on them, end of.

Only if the pavement's a footway, and the difference between a footway and a cycle track is what the planners or local government decide. The home office itself says cyclists should only be prosecuted where their riding endangers others.

The stats suggest if cyclists rode on pavements all the time deaths would fall overall. There'd be a few more pedestrian injuries and deaths but a lot less cyclist ones




My point was the person I replied to went from "I ride on the pavement" to "other cyclists should read the Highway Code"
Good point, I was skim reading.

[SoulKiss]

Well that rules out England, Im struggling to plan a route to work that doesnt involve it though.:D



Only if the pavement's a footway, and the difference between a footway and a cycle track is what the planners or local government decide. The home office itself says cyclists should only be prosecuted where their riding endangers others.

The stats suggest if cyclists rode on pavements all the time deaths would fall overall. There'd be a few more pedestrian injuries and deaths but a lot less cyclist ones




Good point, I was skim reading.

If we rounded up all the cyclist that ride quickly on pavements (as if they were the road, not as the Sir Tev, who is slow at a walking pace) run red-lights and zebra crossings and shot them, cyclists deaths would peak, but then general road-user and pedestrian happiness would rise.

the big point is that many cyclists have never read the highway code, and I believe that they should have to do the Road Theory Test that all other road users have to do before being allowed to go on the road.

Some kind of Cycling CBT would also be good to teach them about road-positioning and looking before making a major alteration in their road position.

Far too many cyclists that I see seem to think that its all other road users job to keep them safe, no matter what idiocy they pull.

[Spank86]

I never understood why they didnt make cycling proficiency mandatory or include it in a PE lesson at school. (horses and their riders should have to take a similar thing IMHO too)


(If we rounded up all car drivers, pedestrians and cyclists and shot them my happiness AND average speed would increase)

[stewie]

I never understood why they didnt make cycling proficiency mandatory or include it in a PE lesson at school. (horses and their riders should have to take a similar thing IMHO too)


(If we rounded up all car drivers, pedestrians and cyclists and shot them my happiness AND average speed would increase)
Cycling proficiency was done at my school, mind you that was a while ago.......

[Spank86]

It was optional at mine, in the evenings after school. I used to see about 10-11 kids do it every year (about 60 or more kids in each year group so not a great number).

I just jumped on a bike and broke every rule that didnt kill me, Seemd to work out okay but theres a lot more cars about now.

[dizzyblonde]

They're doing some sort of afternoon of cycling at school next week, but its not proficiency like we used to do. Dunno what it is, but all in the right direction IMO......as son no1 has no road sense whatsoever.

Ran into the front of a taxi on the street last year, thankfully the driver was slowly looking for the right number, and in his favour, son No1 did come out from behind a bush! He felt awful, as I used to be a regular passenger of his, and he couldn't apologise enough, but it wasn't his fault it was my sons!

[Sir Trev]

If we rounded up all the cyclist that ride quickly on pavements (as if they were the road, not as the Sir Tev, who is slow at a walking pace) run red-lights and zebra crossings and shot them, cyclists deaths would peak, but then general road-user and pedestrian happiness would rise.

the big point is that many cyclists have never read the highway code, and I believe that they should have to do the Road Theory Test that all other road users have to do before being allowed to go on the road.

Some kind of Cycling CBT would also be good to teach them about road-positioning and looking before making a major alteration in their road position.

Far too many cyclists that I see seem to think that its all other road users job to keep them safe, no matter what idiocy they pull.

Thank you for seeing the difference between me and the dont care brigade where pavements come into it SK.

In an ideal world I too would like to see some kind of CBT but with no licence and no paperwork needed to ride a pushbike, and a dreadful lack of Rozzers to check things, I fear it will never happen. Shame.

Oh, and I did cycling proficiency at primary school. The seargent from the local cop shop taught us and he was big and SCARY, so we all did as we were told!!

[SoulKiss]

Thank you for seeing the difference between me and the dont care brigade where pavements come into it SK.

In an ideal world I too would like to see some kind of CBT but with no licence and no paperwork needed to ride a pushbike, and a dreadful lack of Rozzers to check things, I fear it will never happen. Shame.

Oh, and I did cycling proficiency at primary school. The seargent from the local cop shop taught us and he was big and SCARY, so we all did as we were told!!

I thought I would make the distinction, from your posting here I don't really see you as one of the nuisance cyclists out there, but wasn't 100% that you wouldn't see it as me havig a go at you.

You don't actually need the police - when they do get caught out, then the absence of paperwork can be spotted. A roadside stop session or two at commuter time would soon sort out the once reticent to "sign up", especially if it was on the news.

[Stingo]

They walk (or ride) among us...those special people who think they are.....well, special. Slightly apart from those of us that are mere mortals. They honestly believe that certain rules are there to be blatantly flaunted.

For instance, a few weeks ago my wife was in one of those awful queues that you always find in the post office. So annoying having to wait twenty minutes for something that will only take two. In walks Mr W****r. He walks straight in front of my wife placing himself 'mid queue', has the audacity to turn around and say to her "I do this all the time...just to get a reaction out of people". My wife's reaction was to laugh at the sad and clearly lonely individual. I am uncertain if I would have reacted in the same manner.

But these people are out there. They are among us.