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Lucas
29-05-12, 04:34 PM
we are awesome, saving the world etc... :batman:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/motorbikes/9272532/Why-commuting-by-motorcycle-is-good-for-everyone.html?utm_source=Committed+Campaigners&utm_campaign=ed23f7333c-Newsletter+-+November+2011&utm_medium=email

Bluefish
29-05-12, 05:14 PM
Quality report, get on yer bike :D unfortunately i use a van :mrgreen:

dizzyblonde
29-05-12, 05:21 PM
......and its only just been studied?......well I'll be!!!!

grimey121uk
29-05-12, 06:10 PM
Plus there will be plenty of spare donor organs;)
I shouldn't laugh.....

metalangel
29-05-12, 06:13 PM
Wooo! Guy in the pictire is riding a Fazer!

yorkie_chris
29-05-12, 06:25 PM
250cc commuter bikes, which produce 21 per cent less emissions than cars.


Is that a bit pessimistic? Sit a 3l diesel engine in stop start traffic and you'll get 25mpg. Compare that to a ninja 250 or better still a CB250 or something and you're looking at 80-100mpg.

andrewsmith
29-05-12, 08:15 PM
250cc commuter bikes, which produce 21 per cent less emissions than cars.


Is that a bit pessimistic? Sit a 3l diesel engine in stop start traffic and you'll get 25mpg. Compare that to a ninja 250 or better still a CB250 or something and you're looking at 80-100mpg.

or 125+ on a 125cc
Ideal for London

orose
29-05-12, 08:58 PM
The more interesting point is where the mere presence of bikes improves traffic flow - and remember, a stationary car does 0mpg :p

andrewsmith
29-05-12, 09:02 PM
And these do 5 gallons a mile or every 5 minutes stationary :lol:

http://www.enemyforces.net/tanks/challenger2.jpg

DJFridge
29-05-12, 09:10 PM
And these do 5 gallons a mile or every 5 minutes stationary :lol:

http://www.enemyforces.net/tanks/challenger2.jpg

Difficult to filter in one of those! Mind you, I bet the gun could be used to "deal with" Audis, which seen to be the new BMWs

Mrs DJ Fridge
29-05-12, 09:28 PM
Don't get me started on Audi's what are so many Audi drivers oblivious to the outside world? Do they have amazing sound systems or something, or are they mainly driven by fools?

L3nny
30-05-12, 09:57 AM
"or better still, get on a bike yourself. You’ll arrive at your destination sooner, and less stressed."

And cold, and wet, and you'll spend all of the time you saved dodging the traffic getting in and out of your gear.

Owenski
30-05-12, 10:27 AM
"or better still, get on a bike yourself. You’ll arrive at your destination sooner, and less stressed."

And cold, and wet, and you'll spend all of the time you saved dodging the traffic getting in and out of your gear.

There isnt a car in the world that can get from Liversedge to Leeds in 30mins or less between the hours of 8am and 9am monday-friday. Yet I dont leave my house until 8am I've to get the bike out then get my gear on, get here, boot up and remove my gear. I do that and Im ready to work before half 8 almost without fail. When I used to do the jounrey by car I needed to be setting off at 7.30 to be certain I'd be here on time for an 8.30 start. Some days yeah I'd be here at 8.15 but then again on occasion it would be closer to 9. Yup 16miles in 90mins.

L3nny
30-05-12, 10:45 AM
That's crazy, in that case the bike is obviously quicker.

I leave my house at 6.40 and drive the 17 miles along quiet country roads in 20 minutes. Sometimes a bit slower if I get stuck behind a lorry but the V-Tec normally takes care of those :)

Last week I attempted to use the bike to get to work and back as the weather is nice. Took me longer to get my gear on, get the cover off the bike then get my gear off that it did to get to work.

I don't think I could do a job with a commute like yours, would drive me mad!

Owenski
30-05-12, 10:50 AM
Its just the nature of the beast, living outside the city I work in. A city which has few routes in from my direction of travel, and all those route converge before the city anyway. In fairness the car and the bike can be tied up until leaving the M621 at Elland Road, its the last 4miles where the traffic all bottle necks where the bike comes into its own. I often pass colleges on that latter part and their all the ones who start work at 9.
If my route were like yours I'd see no gain in been on the bike and then maybe only do it out of choice but as things are I cannot imagine going by car for as long as I work in Leeds.

Nobbylad
30-05-12, 12:19 PM
I drive an Audi lol!

If I leave for work at 7:30am in the car, I can do the 38 mile commute in 1hr 15mins give or take 10 mins. If I leave at 7.30am on the bike, I'm in the office just after 8am.

markc123
30-05-12, 03:55 PM
Bike emissions are likely to be higher than you expect, as modern cars have all sorts of madcap technology to reduce emissions - lower co2 = lower tax = sales. Same theory that makes stop start more attractive than it should be to manufacturers as its worth a significant chunk of mpg in the standard euro test that has the vehicle stationary for a couple of mins.

I'm guessing the study just used published emissions data from the euro tests.

Commuting to work is the same time car / bike for me, empty back roads. Ones 28mpg and the others 55mpg though :-).

L3nny
30-05-12, 04:06 PM
The tested bike vs car emissions on Mythbusters. They tested bikes and cars from 80's 90's and 00's on different gasses

Just did a quick google and found this screen-shot of their findings.

http://www.ridexperience.com/files/2011/10/emissions.png

Bluefish
30-05-12, 05:49 PM
Don't get me started on Audi's what are so many Audi drivers oblivious to the outside world? Do they have amazing sound systems or something, Yes they do ;)

Nobbylad
30-05-12, 06:15 PM
lol

Lucas
30-05-12, 09:54 PM
Surely bikes are greener, for a start they require less resources to build and run over its lifetime. Haven't seen a report yet that takes this kind of facts into account :rolleyes:

Wonder when we will see the first commercial electric road bike, 0 emission, sure win!

orose
31-05-12, 06:36 AM
They're already available... Vetrix do a scooter with a 40 mile range, and I think Zero do their S model enduro-ish thing with an 80 mile range, although I don't know who imports those.

yorkie_chris
31-05-12, 05:32 PM
Surely bikes are greener, for a start they require less resources to build and run over its lifetime. Haven't seen a report yet that takes this kind of facts into account :rolleyes:

Wonder when we will see the first commercial electric road bike, 0 emission, sure win!

And they tend to get very well recycled.

A new sportsbike seems to go Shiny New > Track slag > Hack > Poor Streetfighter > eBay spares bucket > Even worse "restoration project. And the cycle continues...