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rictus01
05-06-12, 01:19 PM
stopped at a honda dealers today on my ride about, they now put the MPG figures on their sports bikes..how very Honda of them.
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and then right next to them is this sign
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I can't imagine you'd get nearly 55mpg from a CBR600 if you kept it "pinned", do you ?
Cheers Mark.
davepreston
05-06-12, 01:27 PM
simple really, bigger full tank and advised to "keep it pinned" so no one see's you ride a honda or even refueling it
yorkie_chris
05-06-12, 01:27 PM
One I borrowed didn't do 55mpg if you rode like a girl... bag of sh*t thing...
Hows that for development when the (clear lies) from the marketing department fail in fuel economy when compared to what I can actually get from a 900cc behemoth with an engine designed basically in the late 70s.
That's emissions and noise regs for you...
rictus01
05-06-12, 01:32 PM
they had the whole range there and not one bike exited me in the least...
Sir Trev
05-06-12, 02:16 PM
Dobles are one of the few places that actually stock Baglux kit. Got my Minea bag from there after popping in for a looksy and they were a very friendly bunch. Still wouldn't buy one of their bikes mind...
Spank86
05-06-12, 02:41 PM
All bar one of those flags are upside down... Is the store sinking?
Jayneflakes
05-06-12, 05:41 PM
HONDA - Had One, Never Doing Again!
The CB600F I had as a hire bike a while back was more bland than than the pop charts!
It's a world industry thing, look up WMTC (worldwide motorcycle test cycle) for all the boring stuff.
Unfortunately it's about as much use as the CO2 rating for cars, but trying to create any standard test will always be so. It does allow you to compare bikes more or less, but the absolute numbers will always be pure fairytale.
DJFridge
05-06-12, 08:46 PM
It's a world industry thing, look up WMTC (worldwide motorcycle test cycle) for all the boring stuff.
Unfortunately it's about as much use as the CO2 rating for cars, but trying to create any standard test will always be so. It does allow you to compare bikes more or less, but the absolute numbers will always be pure fairytale.
It is pure fairytale because, as with cars, the engines are designed to have sweet spots at the prescribed rpm so they give artificially efficient results. Do you think any of these "under 100gms/km CO2" cars will ever produce anything like that little when actually being driven? Of course not. Bikes are the same.
Spank86
05-06-12, 08:56 PM
They should have a standardised test where the bike is on a rolling road, run it slowly up
The rev range over the space of 10mins and then give it an abstract efficiency figure.
DJFridge
05-06-12, 09:06 PM
They should have a standardised test where the bike is on a rolling road, run it slowly up
The rev range over the space of 10mins and then give it an abstract efficiency figure.
A this bike is "B" rated type of thing? Would it catch on though? I might buy an efficient washing machine, but I buy a bike for the enjoyment.
yorkie_chris
05-06-12, 09:14 PM
Some people actually use them for transport ;)
TBH the fuel consumption kills the enjoyment of the SV for me at the moment, around 40mpg compared to 60 and a small tank, feels like every time you go out on it you're looking for fuel.
andrewsmith
05-06-12, 09:28 PM
Some people actually use them for transport ;)
TBH the fuel consumption kills the enjoyment of the SV for me at the moment, around 40mpg compared to 60 and a small tank, feels like every time you go out on it you're looking for fuel.
That makes my consumption look good!!!
Going back to the OP
a 600 may do that sitting on the M'way in 6th.
How long do any of us suffer the Motorway for more than an hour (unless on the charge P2P)
MisterTommyH
05-06-12, 09:30 PM
Unfortunately it's about as much use as the CO2 rating for cars,
Personally I think that's very useful...... get's me out of paying road tax!
Spank86
06-06-12, 06:46 AM
A this bike is "B" rated type of thing? Would it catch on though? I might buy an efficient washing machine, but I buy a bike for the enjoyment.
That sort of thing, just to give a comparison, some people even commute on their bikes so you never know.;)
Sir Trev
06-06-12, 10:42 AM
The comparison for a bike is less important than for a car, but then I do a lot of miles in the car and only buy one based on efficiency and cost of use. If I were commuting on two wheels or doing a lot of touring I'd then start to compare bike mpg a lot more than I do now.
Interestingly the Focus I just bought is doing way less than the 47mpg Ford claim I should get. But then I do not trust the on-board info and will see what it really works out to via miles and litres put in over six months. All the comaprison guides said my 11 year old Astra (chopped in for the Focus) was only good for 36mpg, but it did 39 in the real world... Only you and your riding/driving style will determine what you really get but the standard tests *should* be a reasonable guide (I hope).
Due to a lack of personallality I shall not be buying a H@#%a.
Also Dobles done a first service on a friends CBR and forgot to fill it back up with oil. They then tried to blame him for making a mistake on riding the bike!!!! So another reason not be buy a Honda as if THEY forget to fill it with oil its all your fault.
Also Dobles done a first service on a friends CBR and forgot to fill it back up with oil. They then tried to blame him for making a mistake on riding the bike!!!! So another reason not be buy a Honda as if THEY forget to fill it with oil its all your fault.
Oh dear, did that actually happen? One would be slightly miffed and go for the jugular of the idiot doing the service.
keith_d
06-06-12, 03:16 PM
Maybe they need a dual rating system, efficiency and fun.
CG125: Efficiency=A Fun=D
..
VFR800: Efficiency=C Fun=C
..
CBR1000: Efficiency=E Fun=B
..
Goldwing 1800: Efficiency=E Fun=E
andrewsmith
06-06-12, 07:38 PM
Maybe they need a dual rating system, efficiency and fun.
CG125: Efficiency=A Fun=D
..
VFR800: Efficiency=C Fun=C
..
CBR1000: Efficiency=E Fun=B
..
Goldwing 1800: Efficiency=E Fun=E
Good idea
How about some more
NC700 Efficiency= B- Fun= D
F4RR Efficiency= E Fun=A
DJFridge
06-06-12, 08:42 PM
Good idea
How about some more
NC700 Efficiency= B- Fun= D
F4RR Efficiency= E Fun=A
NC700 with dual clutch Efficiency= B Fun= E-
It's all a question of right tool for the job.
I've got the SV for a bit of fun.
When I go touring on holiday I'd really appreciate something which could do near 80mpg and 250ml+ range. The Deauville I use for touring will just get into the 60mpg bracket if taken steadily and refuel at around 200mls. It's very good at touring, but the performance/economy blend could be better. Would definitely consider an NC700 to replace it (shame about the chain...........;) )
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