View Full Version : Levers; Titax or the like - worth it?
Hi, I'm thinking of buying some decent levers like Titax , are they worth it? Are they a simple fit , and does everything still work ok once they are fitted? Thanks appreciate comments.
Plenty have bought the cheap adjustable pazzo style chinese levers off ebay for around £20-£40 quid. They're better than standard and most are more than happy with them (myself included).
Check out the hardware section for threads, there's loads of 'em :)
Bordtea
12-06-12, 03:37 AM
I've just ordered some of the chinese prazzo levers off ebay for £22 posted, should arrive in the next couple of days so I'll let you know how they compare :D
Jackie_Black
12-06-12, 06:04 AM
I bought some titax levers for my hornet, £150. Wasn't happy with the action of the front brake (felt like it was binding ever so slightly) so I returned them. THey felt nice though, just didnt have the tiny bit of float the standards ones have and weren't machined right.
Fifteen15
12-06-12, 07:08 AM
Those cheap Chinese levers that are quite popular on this forum, what are the benefits to this mod? Or is it just for the tart factor?
hmm interesting comments, thanks for the replys guys.. by the sounds of things I may be worth saving my money and getting some of the cheap Chinese ones. I await your verdict Bordtea.
MJC-DEV
12-06-12, 07:57 AM
I like dog-leg levers - nice fit to the hands. Other than that looks and cheaper replacement if damaged than OEM
Roberrrrt
12-06-12, 08:25 AM
Had chinese ones on the pointy, much more comfortable to use than standard and quality seemed fine.
garynortheast
12-06-12, 08:37 AM
Had a set of the chinese doglegs on my curvy for about a year now. Comfortable, easy to adjust (should I need) whilst wearing gloves, hard wearing - the black anodising has stayed black, and tough - they've survived a low speed spill without snapping.
Nick_69
12-06-12, 09:12 AM
Chinese style lever are great cheap but do a better job then the oem levers
I had Pazzo levers on my R6 and will be getting some for the new bike. I think they feel alot better than standard levers. Never had a go with the Chinese jobbies but from I have never read a bad word against them.
http://img.tapatalk.com/3e1e9d90-378d-63bc.jpg
An example of the cheap Chinese adjustable levers. These are full length (although slightly shorter than standard) and not the shortie version. You can quite comfortably brake two or four fingered and finish is good. This particular one is a titanium look finish.
shonadoll
12-06-12, 01:00 PM
I think they're worth their weight in gold but didn't buy them for the tart angle, I have tiny hands and it's made life a lot easier. I got the genuine pazzo ones and I love them.
chinese ones are fine and i personally think they come out the same factory but pazzo specify the anodised finish. mine are going a little sun bleached and now looking slightly purple (were black) but who cares as they do their job and do it well. the fit and feel is great with no problems.
Specialone
12-06-12, 01:31 PM
Personally I have black stubby pazzos on my sprint, quality is exceptional.
It was the blacking that put me off the cheaper ones tbh, if I had self colour ones I'd consider some cheapos.
I wouldn't mind some cheapos for my drz tbh.
Epic Monkey
12-06-12, 02:08 PM
I had a pair of shorty levers for my SV. Both were ebay cheapos and both were really exceptional quality for the price compared bigger names. However, whatever you go for, make sure it includes the clutch switch tab. I spent ages ( And a lot of money ) trying to troubleshoot issues with my bike only to read another thread stating the exact issues I was having.
Geodude
12-06-12, 02:43 PM
Which of the ebay chinese jobs have the clutch switch tab?
Epic Monkey
12-06-12, 02:54 PM
Which of the ebay chinese jobs have the clutch switch tab?
I'm not sure to be honest. To be fair, I contacted the seller to let him know of the issue and he is now talking with the manufacturer to get it sorted which is more than I expected of him.
I have seen the switch tab some GSXR's with Pazzos so I'd imagine they'd be the same for the SV. If I was going to spend that money though I'd go for ASV's.
Geodude
12-06-12, 02:57 PM
Ta for reply, its the only thing thats put me off the cheap ones the clutch switch problem. Pazzos or asv would be nice but i would be spending just for looks as the oem do the job ok and im tight as.
Epic Monkey
12-06-12, 03:03 PM
I can fully recommend replacing the brake lever - I only two finger brake so having a short lever makes a lot of difference. This is the seller I got my levers from: the2wheels. Here's a link to just the brake lever:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Adjustable-CNC-Brake-Lever-For-SUZUKI-SV650-S-99-10-/280578647848?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item4153ca6728#ht_8656wt_1163
I can fully recommend his products (Apart from the issue with the clutch lever, which I'm hoping he'll sort out soon) the quality is better than some of the other cheap ones I've seen. I've been using mine everyday for about 8 months and not one sign of anodizing rubbing off.
Specialone
12-06-12, 03:03 PM
Pic of mine
http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/specialone0055/DSC_1211.jpg
Geodude
12-06-12, 03:09 PM
Cheers for that Epic M i will look into those ta :) Yes your levers nice too sp1
the2wheels are the ones i have and fit like a glove with no problems. i have had 2 sets, sv ones and now gsxr ones.
Geodude
12-06-12, 03:21 PM
You bypassed your clutch switch bibio or are the levers sorted now? Why aren't you making these yet.
shonadoll
12-06-12, 03:37 PM
chinese ones are fine and i personally think they come out the same factory but pazzo specify the anodised finish. mine are going a little sun bleached and now looking slightly purple (were black) but who cares as they do their job and do it well. the fit and feel is great with no problems.
I may have bought the Chinese ones at the time but tbh being a newbie was concerned about the quality especially on such a vital part, and nobody had tried the cheaper ones at the time. Didn't even realise they faded so that's a bonus I suppose!
DJFridge
12-06-12, 04:26 PM
I got mine from Moto-777 but I think they're the same as on on2wheels ones that bibio mentioned
Thread here (http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=168661)
Nearly a year on I'm still very happy with them and they don't seem to have faded yet
garynortheast
12-06-12, 06:28 PM
I think mine were from the2wheels and they came with the clutch switch tab, so fitted straight in and worked perfectly. Feel so much nicer to use than the original Suzuki ones.
You bypassed your clutch switch bibio or are the levers sorted now? Why aren't you making these yet.
no i haven't bypassed the switch and there was never a problem with them to begin with. i only upgraded my leavers as i use a gsxr radial mc and now a gsxr clutch perch so i only need to buy one set of levers. gave the other sv set away.
cheeky :wink:
Geodude
12-06-12, 06:57 PM
no i haven't bypassed the switch and there was never a problem with them to begin with. i only upgraded my leavers as i use a gsxr radial mc and now a gsxr clutch perch so i only need to buy one set of levers. gave the other sv set away.
cheeky :wink:
Wasn't being cheeky Bibio sorry if my wording seemed that way (wouldn't dare be cheeky to an org god) was just checking as epic said he had an issue with the clutch tab and then you said they were spot on so i just wondered if that meant that you bypassed the switch as you had no problems with the levers. xGx
heheheeee. org god, no i think you are referring to Lozzo. it was the reference to making them. i can't help it if i'm a bit of an entrepreneur and have magical talent :-)
geo you crack me up m8 :-)
Quiff Wichard
12-06-12, 07:11 PM
Had pazzo on the gixxer .. Got the Chinese on the VFR .. And can't tell the difference .. !
Wideboy
12-06-12, 07:21 PM
im another for the cheepo chinese one's. Bought a set for the thunderace last year for 20 something quid after the standard ones where a bit worn and they were cheaper than standard so thought i'd give them a shot. I was so impressed i stuck another set on the sv, again i cant tell the difference between them and pazzo's
i got black with red adjusters :D
Geodude
12-06-12, 07:31 PM
Well then recommendation by Bibio, Quiff and a real Baron is enough for me, now where's my hammer for cracking my piggy bank open. Here piggy piggy ;)
Ps I will still buy a set of yours Bibio when there ready :)
Fifteen15
13-06-12, 03:02 PM
Anyone got a link on Ebay to a cheap set (both clutch and brake levers)? I want to see what all the fuss is about, but my Ebay search skills are not up to scratch.
Bordtea
13-06-12, 03:12 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251001619985?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
They're the ones I've ordered. Haven't arrived yet though so couldn't tell you about quality :D
Fifteen15
13-06-12, 10:29 PM
^ Thanks, just got myself a pair.
Thanks Bordtea, I have just ordered a Black set with Blue adjusters in standard size from that place. it looks like a good price !
cant wait for them to arrive :)
Edit - Black and Red now.. Blue Adjusters no longer available
Geodude
28-06-12, 08:51 AM
Ordered levers from the2wheels very nice and in my hand only eight days from ordering. Havent had a chance to fit them yet though.
Wideboy
28-06-12, 06:40 PM
stubby or regular?
Bordtea
28-06-12, 08:14 PM
Mine arrived about a week ago and gotta say they're pretty decent. Machined well, pretty convinced they come out of the same factory as actual Prazzos tbh. Got stubby ones.
Geodude
29-06-12, 08:08 AM
stubby or regular?
Regular, as i have a problem with my grip. Still look canny though.
Geodude
04-07-12, 09:06 AM
Right got them fitted and they went straight on no hastle and operate well. Only niggle i have is that if you set the clutch lever adjuster any lower than a four then the clutch switch wont operate at all, anyone else have this?
yep, if you need to have further adjustment options you could adjust the slack at the cable end
Geodude
04-07-12, 09:15 AM
Ahh ta quik_d not just me then. Hmm i will have a bit of a fiddle about then to see if i can get the lever a little closer for my girl like hands.
The clutch switch operates ok on mine on all settings accept number one (closest to the handlebar). You should find that adjusting the cable will do the trick :)
Geodude
04-07-12, 09:54 AM
Tidy dkid i will have a play about and see how it goes :)
Fitted mine a couple of weekends ago. Fit and feel are excellent, no problems with any of the adjustment range and no problem encountered with the clutch switch. Quality seems pretty good for a set that was £22 delivered.
Only problem is the anodising. After 6 days fitted to the bike the lever that had most exposure to the sun is now a dark brown/gold colour and not black anymore. Oh well, should have gone for silver, may not have had this problem then.
TheRamJam
27-08-12, 01:50 PM
Have just bought a set of these instead of Pazzo's. Have ordered them in black with red adjusters in shorty length
£24 delivered, so i'll give them a bash when they arrive from HK :-)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brake-Clutch-Lever-Suzuki-GSXR1000-2007-08-/280533634377?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item41511b8d49
Don't think you'll be disappointed, I've had 3 sets of levers on 3 different bikes now from HK and they are always good. Worth the 3 week wait.
Fitted mine a couple of weekends ago. Fit and feel are excellent, no problems with any of the adjustment range and no problem encountered with the clutch switch. Quality seems pretty good for a set that was £22 delivered.
Only problem is the anodising. After 6 days fitted to the bike the lever that had most exposure to the sun is now a dark brown/gold colour and not black anymore. Oh well, should have gone for silver, may not have had this problem then.
Strange, I've had 2 sets of black in the past and been fine. Silver ones I have now are really nice
Strange, I've had 2 sets of black in the past and been fine. Silver ones I have now are really nice
It is the sun (I know, what sun) that has bleached the anodising, as I haven't even ridden the bike since fitting them. I have emailed the seller and sent some pictures to him and to be fair his response has been top rate, he has offered to send a replacement but to be honest for the £22 I paid for them I am not bothered at all, just thought I'd offer some feedback on them so haven't chased him for a replacement. They very nearly match the gold anodising on my forks now so don't look too out of place anyway.
Mr Farley
01-09-12, 10:57 AM
I ordered a clutch lever when I had my hornet from one of these Hong Kong sellers. Unlike most, I wasn't impressed, it didn't seem to fit properly and had a lot of vertical play. Didn't even ride with it it as it seemed unsafe :(.
TheRamJam
11-09-12, 07:50 AM
Well am still waiting on these. Ordered them on 24/08/12
Should I contact the seller?
Geodude
11-09-12, 02:11 PM
Well am still waiting on these. Ordered them on 24/08/12
Should I contact the seller?
Mine were from the2wheels and were in my hand from ordering in eight days. The package was signature required and had a hongkong tracking code/barcode on aswell. Might be worth checking with them just to see if they've been sent out yet. I had good comms from them and they let me know that they had dispatched them and also said tracking info was available if i needed it. HTH
Wideboy
11-09-12, 02:24 PM
Nah mine took ages the second time, ordered something else of Hong Kong also and that took over a month
millemille
11-09-12, 07:43 PM
I'm an engineer by profession and about 7 years ago I got involved, as a consultant to HSE and Kent Police via a local motorsports engineering company, with an investigation into a fatality at Brands Hatch where a bike engined kit car had suffered a catastrophic drive train failure leading to the driver losing control (cause was the builder, who was also the driver, putting copper grease on the sprocket carrier bolts and reusing the bent beam nuts leading to a loss of prevailing torque and the sprocket coming adrift).
Anywho, whilst at the Police vehicle pound examining the wreckage of the car I got chatting with a traf pol investigator, who was a bike rider, and he took me over to another part of the compound and showed me seriously f****d Honda Blackbird. The rider had gone straight across a T-junction into a dual carriageway as a result of his cheap, pattern front brake lever snapping when pulled due to a casting inclusion.
I've also seen first hand around trackdays and race paddocks too many seized on front brakes as a result of poorly designed or produced cheap Chinese brake levers binding.
Me, I wouldn't touch anything to do with the front brakes unless it's come from an known and established company who you can have a degree of confidence have some form of Design and Quality Assurance process, both vetting their raw materials and the finished product, and that at the very least they have some form of liability insurance to provide protection in the event of something going wrong.
Wideboy
12-09-12, 07:12 PM
no problem with the three sets that i have, would have thought that if the levers would be binding enough for the brakes to seize that they would have been binding from the moment they were put on? as ali doesn't suddenly expand or corrode in an instance... if so why the feck would you carry on using them?
shonadoll
13-09-12, 06:18 AM
I'm an engineer by profession and about 7 years ago I got involved, as a consultant to HSE and Kent Police via a local motorsports engineering company, with an investigation into a fatality at Brands Hatch where a bike engined kit car had suffered a catastrophic drive train failure leading to the driver losing control (cause was the builder, who was also the driver, putting copper grease on the sprocket carrier bolts and reusing the bent beam nuts leading to a loss of prevailing torque and the sprocket coming adrift).
Anywho, whilst at the Police vehicle pound examining the wreckage of the car I got chatting with a traf pol investigator, who was a bike rider, and he took me over to another part of the compound and showed me seriously f****d Honda Blackbird. The rider had gone straight across a T-junction into a dual carriageway as a result of his cheap, pattern front brake lever snapping when pulled due to a casting inclusion.
I've also seen first hand around trackdays and race paddocks too many seized on front brakes as a result of poorly designed or produced cheap Chinese brake levers binding.
Me, I wouldn't touch anything to do with the front brakes unless it's come from an known and established company who you can have a degree of confidence have some form of Design and Quality Assurance process, both vetting their raw materials and the finished product, and that at the very least they have some form of liability insurance to provide protection in the event of something going wrong.
Omg that's scary!
TheRamJam
13-09-12, 07:38 AM
Let's hope my Chinazzos don't snap if and when I receive them :-)
garynortheast
13-09-12, 09:15 PM
Mine have been fine since fitting them a year ago and that includes a 25mph spill and slide up the road. End of the lever was grazed but the lever is intact with no bends or cracks.
TheRamJam
01-10-12, 12:29 PM
Well finally my Chinazzo's have arrived from Hong Kong after 50 days of waiting. Sadly I can't test them as I threw my bike down the road two weeks ago.
So does anyone want a these :-)
i just got some stubby pazzo levers of ebay, £109 for the pair, well impressed with them as i have small hands and needed to dial in the clutch lever. myself personally i would only ever buy well know brands for braking etc...
there is nowt wrong with the chizzos. they are well made robust and do the job very very well. 2 seasons with them and no problems and i use my brakes hard. i dropped my bike and it landed bang on the brake leaver with not a mark on it.
all the horror stories you hear about is the OEM style Chinese ones and i think everyone is getting confused between the two. the cheep aftermarket OEM style leavers are known to snap as soon as look at them and should be avoided at all costs as they are just cheap nasty cast rubbish but the billet ones are indeed very very well made.
Well finally my Chinazzo's have arrived from Hong Kong after 50 days of waiting. Sadly I can't test them as I threw my bike down the road two weeks ago.
So does anyone want a these :-)
What colour are the levers and adjusters and which length and ££.
Cheers
Nik
TheRamJam
04-10-12, 01:01 PM
What colour are the levers and adjusters and which length and ££.
Cheers
Nik
Levers are black shorty ones with red adjusters :-)
How much you wanting for them RamJam. Im pretty interested. Also, do they include the clutch switch that Ive heard a few people talk about?
Ta
How much you wanting for them RamJam. Im pretty interested. Also, do they include the clutch switch that Ive heard a few people talk about?
Ta
TheRamJam
05-10-12, 02:07 PM
How much you wanting for them RamJam. Im pretty interested. Also, do they include the clutch switch that Ive heard a few people talk about?
Ta
You have a PM mate
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