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Owenski
18-06-12, 12:39 PM
I thought I'd write this review because I took the decision to buy this camera very seriously, I wanted to make sure this was a "buy right, buy once" purchase. Although technically my second helmet camera the first (dogcam sport) was categorically an introductory camera, it wasn't a true piece of kit and considering it came without full HD support and had a terrible battery life along with a few other "niggles". It was apparent shortly after purchase that I would be restricted by the dogcam and so I started considering other more technologically advanced cameras.

The Purchase Pre-Reasoning:
Initially when I bought the dogcam it was because I'd started taking in new routes to work which involved a lot more pedestrian routes (ie not the motorway). This meant that I'd started to encounter a lot more junctions and stationary traffic, in turn that meant I'd started to have more WTF moments whilst riding. I partly wanted to document these for insurance purposes but also to be able to show friends/co-workers the footage of my experiences out there in city traffic. The dogcam was perfect for this, a cheapy little camera great for taking the knocks of daily use but anything longer than the commute and it ran out of battery or memory or both. Forget to recharge or delete and half of a journey would be missed, this got frustrating and even more so when friends and I headed off mountain biking I'd have to pick and choose the moments at which to record through the day and often missed the bets parts due to not having any clue something good was coming up.
Now I've got a motorcross day booked in August and I'd love to capture the whole day, with the dogcam that wasn't an option so I decided to bite the bullet and make a purchase.

The Choice:
If I thought deciding if to buy or not to buy was the hard choice I had another thing coming, once I'd made up my mind on buying a camera I then had to decide which ones to buy. I had one criteria "buy right, buy once" this meant looking through the market and ignoring price but instead just buying the right camera for me the following made my short list:

Contour ROAM
Contour GPS
Contour+
Drift HD 1080p
GoPro2 HD

Narrowing the search down a little bit I discarded the Drift because its very bulky and cumbersome, I also discarded the ROAM because it didnt have the tech or either the other 3 straight away leaving me with:
Contour GPS
Contour+
GoPro2 HD

So I began comparing the features of all three cameras, essentially the Contour+ and the GoPro2 are the same thing in a different package. I've never been a fan of the GoPro's looks but because of its reputation decided if I were to buy either of these market leaders it would be the GoPro (Im a sucker for marketing lol). So 3 became 2, a straight 50/50 decision between the 2 units. ContourGPS or the GoPro.
The image capture quality of both cameras is very similar but the GoPro just edges the sound side.
I decided that as opposed to comparing their similarities I'd be better off comparing the other features this is because I was not to be fooled by the contour's GPS function as I know Im rarely going to use it.
I thought therefore I would compare functions of the units to see which one I'd use to the fullest and in short this is what I concluded.
The Contour and GoPro are so similar that I started to question the extra £200+ and if it was worth it, the contour allowed for bluetooth connection to my phone so although it didn't have a screen as such I could still preview things via bluetooth. The software support for the Contour ensures that even as the tech progresses your camera does too, this was enough to convince me that the truth of me keeping the GoPro in the contest was purely because everyone says "get a gopro" answer me this though, how many of those saying it even own a gopro? VERY FEW is the answer or ZERO in my case. It seems odd that everyone knows you should have one but no one actually does... Anyway with that I started finding the best deal on a contourGPS eventually stumbling across this deal:
http://electronics.simplyelectronics.net/search?currency=gbp&country=GB&w=contour&asug=

The New Toy:
My bank balance is £220 lower but this morning I became the proud owner of this contourGPS:
http://www.drz400uk.org/download/file.php?id=2156&t=1
9mm longer than a standard credit card and exactly the same height I was amazed at how small it is, all the publicity images surrounding the unit show it to be much larger than it actually is. Coming in a package with 2 style mounts I immediately mounted it onto my lid.
http://www.drz400uk.org/download/file.php?id=2155&t=1
I used the flat surface rotating mount and I'm really happy with the placement of it, the rotating lens means it can be mounted in any orientation and still give you a perfectly aligned feed.

When the camera arrives you're required to format the memory card and for best results update the firmware, this allows me to make adjustments to the camera using my mobile phone details of which can be found online but this is bloody awesome to mess about with.

The camera location I selected was on top of my helmet with the camera laid flat:
http://www.drz400uk.org/download/file.php?id=2154&t=1
http://www.drz400uk.org/download/file.php?id=2153&t=1
This is because I'm hoping to be able to see things going on around me with out my helmet blocking the shot. I'm now all up to date and have the setup sorted.

Uploading/Viewing:
The bluetooth connection its a streaming upload, you cannot go for a ride and then watch the footage back on your phone (although you can with the contour+) instead in order to watch the video files you need to connect the camera to a PC via the USB cable provided. The patented T rail system means taking the camera off the helmet is really easy so no messing about and you're plugged in and ready to upload the footage to your computer.
Contour provide some editing software called Story Teller, this software allows a user to instantly upload and edit their video with handy editing functions and an "AWESOME" button which allows those who you share the video with to click straight to the best bit as determined by the uploader.
This is another reason I selected this camera, its a complete unit. None of this "yeah its £300... but you need this as well, oh and one of these, its pointless unless you buy this as well so that comes to 7billion pounds" bull**** you get with the gopro.
Once you've uploaded the footage you can quick share it with facebook users / friends, embed the code and also transfer it to youtube channels if you wish. Im yet to trial this out but Im hoping that if footage is kept away from Youtube the quality may not be as restricted as youtube generally makes it.

The Footage:
http://contour.com/stories/test3--23
Watch the video through the above link for better quality than youtube.

The Verdict:
I think for the money its a fricking steal, the ONLY fault I have with this unit is the lacking auxiliary external mic feature HOWEVER those with the auxiliary external mic all state "splashproof" this is waterproof... thats significant when riding my bike all year round and also if I bin it in a puddle whilst off roading.
If you can spare £250 for a camera then this is the best way of spending it.

tigersaw
18-06-12, 12:50 PM
I have one, couple of downsides:
It times out of standby after 15 minutes, meaning you have to turn it back on with the fiddly back button unless you have remembered to take a short 5 second clip every 10 minutes or so.
Contour acknowledged this and have no solution.
Its not the slightest bit waterproof - it will steam up even in a damp pocket. I've tried to address that by sealing up the front thread, but I think it can get in from the large on/off slide switch. It is possile to do away with this altogether and modify it since its just a sliding magnet, but not tried that.
Its been superb when trail riding in the dry, but the first big deep splash and the movie is useless from then on.

Owenski
18-06-12, 12:58 PM
Contour must have been aware of the time out issue as its available as a adjustable feature through storyteller.
See my screenshot below:

http://forums.sv650.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=10922&stc=1&d=1340024432

Specialone
18-06-12, 01:09 PM
Interesting :)
Im thinking of upgrading my dogcam2 camera / unit at some point to HD, defo consider this.

Matt, ive just realised i havent posted your RR back to you, sorry dude, been a busy fortnight, slipped my mind :(
Ill defo post either today or wednesday.

Owenski
18-06-12, 01:14 PM
Its ok you're useless - I understand that now.

Specialone
18-06-12, 01:15 PM
Its ok you're useless - I understand that now.

Cheers mate, love you too

Shouldve text me saying where the bloody hell was it

tigersaw
18-06-12, 01:18 PM
ahh, I have firmware 1.17

Owenski
18-06-12, 01:24 PM
Cheers mate, love you too

Shouldve text me saying where the bloody hell was it

Its way way down on my list pal, not to worry.

Owenski
18-06-12, 01:25 PM
ahh, I have firmware 1.17

I couldn't tell you the difference between the two, when I started up storyteller it instantly said "you need to update firmware click ok to continue" I've only ever seen that screen in camera settings.

I cant find anything on google to suggest the fogging problem is across the range have you tried one of the cover lens kits? Maybe the seal around yours has preished? (Just spitballing there, I've no idea if thats possible or not).

tigersaw
18-06-12, 01:32 PM
I couldn't tell you the difference between the two, when I started up storyteller it instantly said "you need to update firmware click ok to continue" I've only ever seen that screen in camera settings.

I cant find anything on google to suggest the fogging problem is across the range have you tried one of the cover lens kits? Maybe the seal around yours has preished? (Just spitballing there, I've no idea if thats possible or not).

Not tried a lens cover kit. If you look carefully at the roating lens the cover is held on with a grub screw, I took that out and got another turn out of it, last time I dried it out.
TBH I've chucked it in the can't be bothered drawer for now.
Also, it uses a standard nokia battery if you want to get a spare, though the supplied one seems to last many hours no problem.

yorkie_chris
18-06-12, 03:20 PM
I would seriously think about putting it somewhere well out of sight... if you get stopped by any filth who are less than impressed with the usual DRZ-ing antics then you might have provided enough rope to hang yourself with...

Owenski
18-06-12, 03:34 PM
Not tried a lens cover kit. If you look carefully at the roating lens the cover is held on with a grub screw, I took that out and got another turn out of it, last time I dried it out.
TBH I've chucked it in the can't be bothered drawer for now.
Also, it uses a standard nokia battery if you want to get a spare, though the supplied one seems to last many hours no problem.

I think I set it up so that it'll run out of memory before it runs out of battery but I do intend that it'll have at least one spare.

Owenski
18-06-12, 03:44 PM
I would seriously think about putting it somewhere well out of sight... if you get stopped by any filth who are less than impressed with the usual DRZ-ing antics then you might have provided enough rope to hang yourself with...

I want to mount it on the project bike somewhere in the headlight surround, the only problem is I'll forget its there for certain.

If I want to capture POV riding I've got to admit that risk is a possibility, but if they're pulling me in the first place I've got to assume they know I did something. If they want it as evidence I've got no come back but with no direct playback I'm sure they'd prefer to just deal with it at the road side rather than the alternative of taking me to court.
I'd reason that they're more likely to say things along the line of "Either take the 3 points and £60 fine for speeding or we'll seize your camera and see what else we can get you for", either way I'd be getting points.

pookie
18-06-12, 03:57 PM
My contour gps was sent back to US when it was bricked on firmware update. Good service and turnaround was less than 7 days. Not impressed with the firmware process on the gps model. Why they chose to use a hidden button I will never know.

I've just put in an order for a water proof case from http://www.evanscycles.com/products/contour/gps-waterproof-case-ec030976?query=contour%20case

You can use the £5 off first order if you sign up to the newsletter and get free delivery. I like the gps mode and mapping but after seeing Fallout's vids using the drift I did consider jumping ship. Guess I'm sticking with the contour a bit longer as the accessory costs alone are mounting up.

Fallout
18-06-12, 05:03 PM
Good review mate. I managed to eat my dinner, have a poo, and paint the lounge before I got to the end of it. Did I mention it was thorough?

Just as a side note, the drift may look bulky, but I can't tell the difference between it being on my head or not while riding, so I would hope the fear of weight doesn't put anyone off.

tactcom7
19-06-12, 07:35 AM
Great review Matt, been thinking of getting something similar when i finally get round to reinsuring the bike.

Look forward to seeing it in action in August, is it high/lowside/endo'd/wheelied over backwards proof? ;)

Owenski
19-06-12, 07:38 AM
Great review Matt, been thinking of getting something similar when i finally get round to reinsuring the bike.

Look forward to seeing it in action in August, is it high/lowside/endo'd/wheelied over backwards proof? ;)

Not specifically, but it is insured for accidental damage lol.

Aye, it'll be there in August not sure what I'm going to do as regard mounting it though as I'd prefer not to have it mounted to my head for when I have the inevitable head+dirt moment... which I'll hopefully catch on camera. :)

tactcom7
19-06-12, 07:43 AM
Well i have some RC kit we could always go for an Operation Iraqi Freedom style UAV mount for the aerial footage look :)

dyzio
20-06-12, 11:36 AM
Are you nt annoyed by the on/off slide switch? Or do you just switch it on whenever you're on the bike?

Owenski
20-06-12, 12:00 PM
I find the sliding switch a god send.
I've been turning the camera power on before starting the bike, then as I set off slide the record action on.

its perfect, you know for sure you're recording where as on the dogcam the button was a single on/off button but when its on your head you had no idea if it was off or on <--terrible design.

dyzio
20-06-12, 12:03 PM
Bit difficult if you mount the camera out of reach :/
They don't do a remote for them?

pookie
20-06-12, 12:09 PM
also the android view finder app is great for setting it up as I find the lasers had to see when i'm out

Owenski
20-06-12, 12:11 PM
Yeah and no, the power button is on the back, the slider is on the top but also at the back so if you can reach one, one would assume you can reach the slider.
But yeah if you've got it in a mount underneath the bike somewhere for example then you'd have to turn it on and slide the record button before setting off but would't you have the same issue for any other camera as well?

No no remote function, the contour+ does have it and rumors are off a bluetooth controller and external mic but I dont know the reality of those rumors.

Fallout
20-06-12, 12:12 PM
You get a remote with the far cheaper Drift. *cough cough* Sorry dude, just saying! :)

Owenski
20-06-12, 12:13 PM
Oi you shhhhhhh!

Drift costs a fortune compeared to the contour... assuming we're factoring the extra fuel required to transport the thing ;)

Fallout
20-06-12, 12:58 PM
Cheaper if you factor in that you don't need a helmet because it'll take the entire impact of a collision.

Owenski
20-06-12, 01:33 PM
LOL! Very true

madnlooney
22-06-12, 05:09 AM
i was thinking of getting the drift HD

The Guru
22-06-12, 07:50 AM
I thought the Contour App let you 'remote record'.

EDIT:
Had a quick search and its mentioned on their blog HERE (http://contour.com/blogs/contours-new-remote-control-makes-capturing-epic-moments-even-easier)

Owenski
22-06-12, 07:55 AM
Its not the slightest bit waterproof - it will steam up even in a damp pocket. I've tried to address that by sealing up the front thread, but I think it can get in from the large on/off slide switch. It is possile to do away with this altogether and modify it since its just a sliding magnet, but not tried that.
Its been superb when trail riding in the dry, but the first big deep splash and the movie is useless from then on.

I think you've got a duff one mate, rode the last few days in this lousey rain and haven't had an issue with it once. Obviously when rain is on the lens it goes all funny but it doesn't take much before its run off the lens and its all clear again.

pookie
22-06-12, 08:19 AM
dont know how they will implement it as the bluetooth button in infront of the record slider switch. I need to turn it on and then it connects via the app. Once the slider is moved to the record position the app disconnects and presumably the bluetooth stops. I have contour app 1.x rc7 so maybe a new version will solve it. I noticed an entry at the bottom of the blog mentions the new features haven't materialized.
One thing is you can configure the recording setting on the fly without the need to connect to the pc. Off to get a class 10 card to see if there is improvement on the smoothness of recording hd video

Owenski
22-06-12, 09:25 AM
I thought my HD playback was fecked until I tried it on works PC. My lappy at home just couldnt handle the rate, same thing happened when I tried to hook my HD camcorder up to the lappy too.