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Can anyone recommend decent and AFFORDABLE tyres? Especially some that are extra good in rain if such thing exists? I'm really broke but I think my tyres have never been replaced (bike is 2006). They look in good nic and tread is good but if they are 6 years old, the compound will be disintegrating by now... don't know if I'm being paranoid but I never felt I had great traction since I bought the bike in May
Luckypants
21-06-12, 09:20 AM
Take a look in the tyre review section for some ideas / guidance. http://forums.sv650.org/forumdisplay.php?f=138
My personal favourites are Avon Storms, I have run these for years and really like the grip, wet weather capability and cost. I am currently running the latest Michelin PR3 which are phenomenal in the wet but a little squirmy pushing on in the dry. Both the Avons and Michelins are great tyres, but I'll be going back to Avon when the time comes. Both the Avon and Michelin offer more grip than I need on the road. I cannot comment on other tyres as I have no personal experience with them.
speedyctr
21-06-12, 09:25 AM
Whats affordable depends on your budget.
see here - http://forums.sv650.org/forumdisplay.php?f=138 for much info on the different options out there. I think anything would be a massive improvement on what you have now. When i was looking Michelin PR3 and Avon Storm seem to have the best wet grip. For me I have stuck to Bridgestone as about mid price range and have them already with no probs.
How worried should I be about riding on my current tyres until I replace them if they indeed are 6 years old?
rictus01
21-06-12, 09:30 AM
do you know what make you have on there? if they are Dunlop 220's then they are the originals and were only OK tyres to begin with, the cheaper end are metz z6's (or now superseded by Z8's), diablo strada's, Conti road attack's, the more expensive are the Storm Ultra's (like Mike I use those), dunlop road smarts, michelin Pilot roods (either 2's or 3's), and then the latest from bridgestone (although I've not been a fan of the last 10 years worth of there tyres myself), but as Mike says there is a whole section on tyres in that link.
Cheers Mark.
rictus01
21-06-12, 09:32 AM
How worried should I be about riding on my current tyres until I replace them if they indeed are 6 years old?
if you come along tomorrow to Soho, I'll have a quick look for you and let you know.
I'm going to try my best to get there tomorrow
Michel ct 2.
Good value. some good deals
every body ravesv about there wet grip.
Jayneflakes
21-06-12, 12:10 PM
I have just fitted a pair of Contimotions to my bike and these have so far been faultless.
Grip is excellent, they feel inspiring and not in anyway nervous and cost was affordable.
£160 for both ends from my local garage and I got to play with their dog while the tyres were fitted! The only down side was that I needed a couple of extra wheels weights, which in my view are ugly.
One of the best bits of advice I was given here ages ago and I think is still totally useful is this. You have to really shop around to buy a bad tyre these days! I cannot remember who told me that, but it was one of the regular techie posters on here, so thanks who ever you were. :D
PS, these tyres have been great in the wet too, which frankly amazed me, at that price I thought that they would be rubbish. How wrong was I?
Just don't go for the more sport hoops like corsa deablo .
They need heat to work properly.
Given you ride in the rain allot not such a good choice.
I think Jayne's thread from a little while back might be of use:
http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=174037
Jambo
-Ralph-
21-06-12, 08:15 PM
Michelin Pilot Roads (not 2 or 3) are going for really good money nowadays.
Had a look at the tyre forum... oh lordy... too much info! I'm lost :D
Jayneflakes
22-06-12, 07:20 AM
Had a look at the tyre forum... oh lordy... too much info! I'm lost :D
I know how you feel, that is what I felt after reading that lot!
if it is any help, find a brand you like the look of and make a choice. ;)
I don't really know anything about brands. Only been a biker since November and only on a big bike since May :D I know nothing LOL I just want affordable tyres that have great grip in the wet. Cannot stand this fecking weather! If I don't skid in the rain today, I'll get blown off by the awful winds AARRGHH!!! I'm thinking of moving to the South of France! Want to ride around looking at the Alps!!
You have to really shop around to buy a bad tyre these days!
Michelin Pilot Road 2 or 3,
Metzler Z6 or Z8,
Pirelli Angel,
Avon Storm, Storm Ultra 2
Dunlop RoadSmarts, (2)
You should be happy with any modern sports/touring tyre.
Look on m and p the cooking version of my hoops are going cheap .
http://www.mandp.co.uk/productinfo.aspx?catref=900938&tier1url=Tyres&tier2url=Tyre-Offers&tier3url=Pirelli
better for normal riding situations.
You need to get them fitted . but they could be used as a comparison for a ride in and get fitted place.
get some local advice from the so ho crew and see who they use.
-Ralph-
22-06-12, 08:38 AM
Too many opinions on the forum Agy, too confusing!
The tyres NTEC has just linked to are a good option, but buy on the internet then you need to find someone to fit them for you, and usually if a tyre shop doesn't supply the tyre, they charge over the odds to fit.
I'd recommend a few things to remove the confusion.
1. Ignore this thread for now.
2. Post in your local section asking for recommendations for tyre fitters that do good prices and 'ride in ride out' fitting. Phone that fitter and ask them what tyres they recommend to fit your budget and your bike.
3. Once you have a brand of tyres that you know are available, how much they cost, and are being recommended by a local tyre fitter, that has in turn been recommended to you, that's a pretty safe combo. Make those tyres your number one choice in the interim.
4. Look back on the forum to see what people have said about those tyres in the tyre section.
5. If you are still not sure, post a new thread asking for the Yes/No answer to only one question. Are they an OK tyre? Make it clear in your OP that you are not interested in whether or not somebody thinks you should have a different tyre. You are ONLY interested in whether your chosen tyre will be OK.
6. Go get them fitted.
While i agree with the above you can't go wrong with Mitch pilots 2's or 3's.
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SoulKiss
22-06-12, 12:37 PM
2. Post in your local section asking for recommendations for tyre fitters that do good prices and 'ride in ride out' fitting. Phone that fitter and ask them what tyres they recommend to fit your budget and your bike.
That would be Essential Rubber, over by the Blackwall Tunnel.
More expensive.
http://www.mandp.co.uk/productinfo/902655/Tyres/Tyre-Offers/Michelin
Ask the lot tonight .
Then get Claire to negotiate the price lol.
I will indeed.
I went to a local garage today. He said in my price range avons (ultra I think he said) or michelin (pilot i think) and he said just do the rear tyre. £110 incl fitting. Is that a sensible price?
He said my rear tyre is pretty much square which is why I'm feeling so wobbly and unstable...quite possibly contributed to my skid
Mitch are i find excellent (i have some) and the storm (2's) get excellent reviews on here. I paid 220 fitted for a pair. The rear is always the more expensive due to size.
As to them contributing to your skid. You said you were straight up so that wouldn't be the case. Turning on squared tyres causes a flip flop effect but not accidents like yours unless you were on a slight angle!
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Sparky160
23-06-12, 12:38 AM
I just got a set of pirelli's new angel ST tyres on and they are easily the best tyre I've ever ridden on. Awesome in both wet and dry but partciularly wet. Seems like endless grip. Got the pair fitted and balanced for £210 which was a good deal. They are supposed to be really durable aswell so should last a while. If your budget allows I say take a look at these.
where did you get this kind of a deal? that's a good price
-Ralph-
23-06-12, 09:28 AM
My Michelin PR3 were £230 fitted to loose wheels, but my rear tyre is a 190/55 (On an SSA Triumph Daytona 955i)
Agy
As Soulkiss says... just head along to Essential Rubber, and Mick or one of the gang will discuss your needs and quote a good price. Tyres are a pretty personal choice, with many variables which may favour one riding style or another.
same price essential as my local man. £230 fitted avon storm.
kiggles
25-06-12, 01:45 PM
been riding on avon storms for ages. they good tyres but since getting road pilot 3's on my cbr 600rr think i will be putting them on the sv650. personal preference although the road pilot 3's are more expensive and have less feeling to them. better in the wet and get more miles out of the rear tyre
Tyres are very subjective.
My corsa3 Dicky Ticker hates plus another RSV owner disliked them .
Me Im fine on them. Yes cold they do the step drop feeling.
But grip better than allot of milage hoops do in the dry.Get them warmed up and they just dig in with nice feedback.
My tyre supplier has a special deal on ContiMotions and Michelin Pilot Roads at the moment, they are extremely cheap. I have used the Contis on my old FJR1300 and they grip well in the wet and dry, as do the Michelins on the bikes I've tried them on. Both last very well too
bike gone in now :)
he'll also raise it back up for me. half hour job to raise it up so £20
damn i hope it makes a difference!
rictus01
26-06-12, 09:48 AM
you'll notice the profile change straight away, that rear tyre had a rather square one, but also no matter what you went for you'll have better grip than the OEM rubber.
Cheers Mark.
Take it steady for a few miles.
When you starting the tread.
Recomend me a pair of knee slideders Agy ;)
you'll notice the profile change straight away, that rear tyre had a rather square one, but also no matter what you went for you'll have better grip than the OEM rubber.
Cheers Mark.
Yeah been cheated by the seller. he was like "the tread is good" when I said they will need replacing soon - lower the price man. no matter if only 6k on the clock; the compound is no longer as fit for purpose as it used to be. hey ho, such is life when you're a clueless female buying a motorcycle. I paid 2850 for this bike (advertised 2950 so got a hundred squid off and got him to give me 6 months warranty). it's 2006, was absolutely mint when i bought it. that didn't last long LOL
Take it steady for a few miles.
When you starting the tread.
Recomend me a pair of knee slideders Agy ;)
what do you mean?
rictus01
26-06-12, 10:09 AM
you can't know everything when you get your first bike, but it's experience gained now, Martin's comment is what the fitter should tell you anyway, a bit gentle to start with when new tyres are fitted, but then you've probably been a little cautious of late, so basically no knee down for 50 miles....;)
knee down....?? Hahahaha as if.... i'm a loooooong way away form that LOL
rictus01
26-06-12, 10:16 AM
don't worry it's not a requirement, just know your tyres are more than capable of doing it even if you never want to yourself.
Cheers Mark.
If your gentle on car tyres for the first few miles they last longer too.
don't worry it's not a requirement, just know your tyres are more than capable of doing it even if you never want to yourself.
Cheers Mark.
If they are so capable of such things why is it also so easy to fall of the bike? i.e how come gravel can have such dire consequences? Weird questions I know but I like to understand exactly how things work :)
am I more likely to skid on my new tyres in the first 50 miles?
i might be riding to cambridge and back on friday
rictus01
26-06-12, 11:25 AM
If they are so capable of such things why is it also so easy to fall of the bike? i.e how come gravel can have such dire consequences? Weird questions I know but I like to understand exactly how things work :)
like most things on a bike "user input" is probably the cause, once you've seen the potential for an off, the tendency is to tense up, with the addition of target fixation :smt102
Generally looking where you want to go, not reacting to the "grip of death" natural response, will see you through most things.
am I more likely to skid on my new tyres in the first 50 miles?
i might be riding to cambridge and back on friday
basically; yes you are, but "more likely" than once they are scrubbed in, I doubt they'll be worse than what you rode in with and probably a lot better.
Cheers Mark.
Gravle only a problem if you dont see it.
Loads a gravle bits on the AR 12 run.No one fell off.
The run you have planed will be fine.
Your be aquainting your self with the new tyres and you seam sensible so your unlikley to to be loading the tyre to any extent.
Enjoy it . relax your ride better gor it.
Serch out twist of the wrist. by Kieth Code.
It will clue you up.
linky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWH_QiXw5n4&feature=related
My brother in law has a curvy with bridgestones his always preferred em. I have only bought my pointy a couple of days ago and it has dunlops on em but they do feel very sticky in the dry once warmed up.
Gravle only a problem if you dont see it.
Loads a gravle bits on the AR 12 run.No one fell off.
The run you have planed will be fine.
Your be aquainting your self with the new tyres and you seam sensible so your unlikley to to be loading the tyre to any extent.
Enjoy it . relax your ride better gor it.
Serch out twist of the wrist. by Kieth Code.
It will clue you up.
linky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWH_QiXw5n4&feature=related
but what do you do if you can't avoid it? I have places near me where it's spread out all over the road...
You take it steady.
Its ok to take things easy.
Gently on the brakes .
You learnt to walk .
you can do the same on the sv.
You can do it.
Picked up today. The mechanic was VERY explicit about how careful I must be in the first 50 miles. It does feel totally different
rictus01
27-06-12, 11:25 PM
that's how it should feel, enjoy it.
Cheers Mark.
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