Death by dangerous driving

[Amadeus]

A guy I know (tho not seen for 10 years) has been arrested after being involved in an accident where someone died - death by dangerous driving.
Is this a standard procedure (as it was done at the scene - presumably before much in the way of analysis could be done) or have the police already determined what they believe happened?

Thanks

[Dicky Ticker]

Yes but it may be reduced if further evidence comes to light

[pinpoint_uk]

Hi

Not speaking from an absolute point of view but if the driver is a professional (eg lorry driver) it is a standard procedure. I know this as my uncle was driving a lorry when a motorcyclist hit him and died. He was arrested but then released without charge. However it could be a standard procedure as an arrest is to let a thorough investigation to be carried out and tbh I agree with this considering the consequences of the accident. However if they are found to be blameless their details won't be kept (Well I don't thing they should be anyway!!

Rich

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[Amadeus]

Dt: not sure what you're saying yes to?

I must agree that the most important thing is that justice needs to be done and obviously the family of the person who died are the ones who are suffering most right now. A terrible situation for all.

[monkey]

Blimey. Can you imagine the horror for a driver not at fault to be arrested thinking he's going to be put away?!

[Amadeus]

Indeed.
Strangely enough I have nightmares about being arrested and convicted for something I've not done.
I also often think about how a momentary loss of concentration can have dramatic consequences.

[Ch00]

The driver would normally only be detained in order to get an account on tape about the event. After this is done and pending other intinal enquires the driver would be bailed to reattend the police station on a set date in the future.

[Amadeus]

So it doesn't necessarily mean that the police think he has committed a crime, more a procedural thing?

[Ch00]

So it doesn't necessarily mean that the police think he has committed a crime, more a procedural thing?

He would have been arrested on suspision of that offence, but as one party have died they only have once side of the story to go on at this time. Once all enquires are carried out down the line thats when a descion will be made as to any charges (if any) will be bought.

[Amadeus]

Thanks for the insight Ch00, appreciated

[Von Teese]

Amadeus, in our force it was standard procedure to arrest and interview any drivers involved in a Road Traffic Collision where someone died.

[Bluepete]

I'm slightly surprised to hear other forces arrest at scene with such regularity. It's certainly not standard op. procedure according to the road death manual (national guidance for investigating road deaths)

Pete ;)

[Von Teese]

I'm slightly surprised to hear other forces arrest at scene with such regularity. It's certainly not standard op. procedure according to the road death manual (national guidance for investigating road deaths)

Pete ;)
Hi Petey, how is my favorite traffic officer xxx, long time no chat, not been on here for a bit, life hectic and busy at the mo. PM me x

Yes when I was in the police, our force arrested anyone involved in a DBDD, guess it's all about covering your backside for some forces!

[NTECUK]

Hi

He was arrested but then released without charge. However it could be a standard procedure as an arrest is to let a thorough investigation to be carried out and tbh I agree with this considering the consequences of the accident. However if they are found to be blameless their details won't be kept (Well I don't thing they should be anyway!!

Ri

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The Serious Organised Crime and Police Act 2005 states that police have the power to retain all fingerprints and photographs of people arrested, even if they are subsequently released without charge or later acquitted .

[NTECUK]

Not sure what you posted VT as purple on black don't stand out to well :)

[Von Teese]

Not sure what you posted VT as purple on black don't stand out to well :)
Sorry all my posts are in purple as I kept the original blue and white setup from before the forum changed the style.
I was basically saying that when I was in the force we were told to arrest and interview anyone involved in causing a death by dangerous driving. Whether it seemed to be their fault or not.

[Amadeus]

Thanks VT et al. I was slightly confused because the text in the email notification that someone had updated this thread was nowhere to be found - you'd edited your post! :-)
I hope he is fine - he's a decent chap, but having said that, if it was his fault or due to his negligence he should be punished, I guess even if it was out of character or due to a momentary loss of concentration.

As for the chap you wrote about in your original email, I must admit I thought he could have been considered a contributing factor - after all it takes 2 to race.

PS: strangely enough VT I was thinking about you a few days ago because I'd not seen you post for ages and I remembered that you'd posted some time ago asking for thoughts about potential changes in your life. Can't remember the details (and I'm not going to look for the thread because then I become a stalker!) but I hope you got it all sorted and it's working out for you.

Rgds

[pinpoint_uk]

The Serious Organised Crime and Police Act 2005 states that police have the power to retain all fingerprints and photographs of people arrested, even if they are subsequently released without charge or later acquitted .

That worries me somewhat, kind of big brother by the back door. Only 1 step from ID cards... What next, a blanket 40mph NSL... :eek:

Thanks for clarifiying though, I kinda guesses that maybe the case.

Rich

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[NTECUK]

I cant say it worries me as although I've been arrested (and chucked in a cell ,but never charged),I've never done anything that bad to worry about.

[Von Teese]

Thanks VT et al. I was slightly confused because the text in the email notification that someone had updated this thread was nowhere to be found - you'd edited your post! :-)
LOL! Sorry, I re-read it and decided to cut out a lot of blah blah blah!


As for the chap you wrote about in your original email, I must admit I thought he could have been considered a contributing factor - after all it takes 2 to race.
Quite! However they deemed his actions were not the cause of her death because despite taking part in the race, he did not cause her to overtake on a junction.

PS: strangely enough VT I was thinking about you a few days ago because I'd not seen you post for ages and I remembered that you'd posted some time ago asking for thoughts about potential changes in your life. Can't remember the details (and I'm not going to look for the thread because then I become a stalker!) but I hope you got it all sorted and it's working out for you.
Thank you, how sweet for remembering, I haven't been on here for ages simply because I have been so busy.

We were on the brink of moving to SA but decided to give the UK a fair crack just to be sure we have tried everything before making a big decision and if it doesn't work out it will probably be New Zealand instead of SA.

I went out and bought an 18 tonne lorry and we have been going to a lot of shows with the horses, I changed jobs and have been kept pretty busy since then (Sept 11).
We are also looking to buy an equestrian property over here too, we have had a look at a few but they were not as good as the pictures the estate agent sent.
(Thanks Gruntygiggles and Badger for the imput and question-answering on those by the way).

Anyhoo, not only am I rambling on again, I am hijacking your thread.

Hope your friend will be ok x

[Bluepete]

Hi Petey, how is my favorite traffic officer xxx, long time no chat, not been on here for a bit, life hectic and busy at the mo. PM me x




Send me your email address VT. No PM's working.

Pete ;)

[Von Teese]

Send me your email address VT. No PM's working.

Pete ;)
Oops, sorry had disabled them a while ago and forgot about it.
PM sent x