Power One vs. Power Pure?

[speedyandypandy]

If you've read in the race section you will know I'm going to race my sv(roadbike) in a open class in Norway next weekend. I've bought a set of Power Ones since on paper they have more grip than Power Pure tyres, has anyone tried them both? Is there much difference? What can I expect?

[Lozzo]

You can expect grip, more than any novice racer will be able to use or judge, so stop worrying about it and just ride.

[speedyandypandy]

So no one that isn't a progressed from novice racer can feel the difference? I wonder why I bothered to ask.
I don't know about the level of novice racers, but I know when I lose the rear and it steps out, and I know I don't like that feeling, I also know that the Pure is lighter then the power one, but is the extra grip it offers worth the extra weight? And no I don't push the Pure enough to lose the front or feel it slipping, but when you have rubber build up on the outside you know your close.

[Lozzo]

My mate Danny has raced on both and says they pretty much feel the same. He's been racing at higher end of club level for about 19 years now and has won using Pure and Ones.

Tyres are very much a psychological thing. He could ask me to drop 2psi from the rear and I could leave it as it was and he'd come back saying it felt much better. Danny never looks at the mechanicals of the bike on race weekends, so I once told him I'd scored a pair of development slicks from the Bridgestone guy I knew and he went out and put in a lap time 1 second faster than he'd ever ridden at Cadwell on his 675... faster than he'd taken his ZX10R round there. Truth be known they were exactly the same type of Dunlop tyres he hadn't liked at Brands the race weekend before.

Suck it and see, you may find it's not Michelins that suit your style of riding. I know my CBR feels horrible on Dunlops of any variety, great on the old Renntecs you can't buy any more with a 60 profile front and fantastic on SuperCorsas with a 70 profile front, but I don't race, just fast group on t/days.

[monkey]

FYI (if you didn't know already) power ones are available as a road legal tyre but in different compounds for track use.

[speedyandypandy]

FYI (if you didn't know already) power ones are available as a road legal tyre but in different compounds for track use.
I did know, but I went for the road legal ones, no need to buy tyres for track use only for the sv, it's a roadbike first, play/track bike second.

[speedyandypandy]

so I once told him I'd scored a pair of development slicks from the Bridgestone guy I knew and he went out and put in a lap time 1 second faster than he'd ever ridden at Cadwell on his 675... faster than he'd taken his ZX10R round there. Truth be known they were exactly the same type of Dunlop tyres he hadn't liked at Brands the race weekend before.

The power of beliving is incredible

[speedyandypandy]

Apparently no one fast enough here has tried pushing either the power pure or power one so far they can give me the answers I'm looking for, has anyone read a tyre test on these, a test from a track and not road?

Any useful information is much appreciated

[monkey]

Please see post numbers 2 and 4.

Some useful information might be had by looking elsewhere for the tyre release reviews. The British magazines and websites seem to always test tyres on track and maybe a bit of road.

[speedyandypandy]

Please see post numbers 2 and 4.

I did read post 2 & 4, no useful info about the pure or one tyres at all, just a lot of bla bla bla.

But I did find some tests, with some useful info :D and here it is :
In terms of grip the Powers seemed to lack just a hair of outright grip as compared to all the tires with exception of the Avons. Don’t get us wrong, grip is still at a very high-level especially for a street tire. You can still go hard into the corners and trail brake deep but when you were aggressive with the throttle on corner exit the rear tire had a tendency to squirm and spin. It is important to note however that when it did slide it was very predictable and offered a high-level of feedback which made it easy to control

Another test gave this from 2 different riders : “The feedback was sensitive enough that I felt every crack and bump in full lean while no grip was lost.” He went on to say that steering response from the Power One is as impressive as the level of grip. “The profile provides sharp response to directional changes, and they held the line exactly where I had planned from entrance to exit, very much like a one would expect from a race tire.”

And : “Early in the day, when I took out the CBR600RR for the first time, I was struck by the tires' ability to develop full grip on cold asphalt that was still a little damp in spots. The grip was great, and it got great quickly – as if the tires hardly needed to get up to temperature.”

[Paul the 6th]

Thanks for posting some of your own findings Andy :thumbsup: v. useful info ;)

[Fallout]

I've got the Pilot Power 2CTs on my Gixer and I took them right down to the edge yesterday. First time I've ever done that on a bike (always had at least 1-2cm of strip on my sv). It was on a roundabout and I felt like I could've made a cup of tea and read a magazine while I was doing it. A lot of that is down to the bike, but the tyres give me loads of confidence.

Not a lot of use to you really as it's neither of the two you're considering, but maybe useful to know anyway!

[speedyandypandy]

I've got the Pilot Power 2CTs
Not a lot of use to you really as it's neither of the two you're considering, but maybe useful to know anyway!
The Power Pure has more grip on offer then the Power 2cts, before I started using the sv on track again I used them on the road, and then I used them the first sessions on track, I changed to pure and found the feel/feedback improve, heat up time was lowered a lot. So this should be useful for you to know, since you have lost your chickenstrips you should be even faster next time you do a trackday ;) Just make sure your sag and suspenison set up is better than the default from the factory, first time I played around with my setup was on a srad 600 I used to own. I just went along with PB's recommondation, the difference was huge, nowadays my gixer have springs to suit my dream weight(I'm of by 5kg) and a good setup.

[Fallout]

Good to know. Yes, I really need to setup the suspension. The last owner weighed about twice as much as me. If he tweaked it at all, then it'll be way out for me. Still, only just got it and going from the curvy, even in it's current setup it's a lot better in the corners. :)