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how do you feel about other people on bikes overtaking you on a bend?
Mr Speirs
11-09-12, 04:51 PM
Doesn't happen to me...I'm too awesome and quick to be overtaken on a bend.
If it did as long as it was safe and I didn't have to alter my line then all is fair.
The Idle Biker
11-09-12, 04:55 PM
If they go round me on the other side of the white line, then fair play, they can take their chances.
If they do it on my side I don't think I'd like it all.
I'm more awesome than Mr Speirs.
Spank86
11-09-12, 04:55 PM
Ashamed.
Or at least that's how I think I'd feel when I picture myself in fallout's shoes.
Galviniser
11-09-12, 05:05 PM
Mhmm, don't think. Any people would respect it really, it would be annoying someone overtaking you, never mind on a bend, plus depends how fast you were going...
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Spank86
11-09-12, 05:09 PM
Depends if you know them or not.
Someone I didn't know who was doing it in my lane would annoy me, just wait till a straight or use the other lane.
what if you have no alternative but to overtake on a bend as the person in front is cracking the throttle open on every straight but going round bends almost upright?
Spank86
11-09-12, 05:29 PM
Either:
Wait behind them if they're going THAT fast in the straights
Or
Out brake them along the last bit of a straight on a corner you can see round,
Or
Pass them in the other lane.
After all, if they're THAT bad do you really want to run the risk of panicking them mid corner?
point out to them that they need training as clearly they don't get the idea of having 2 wheels.
Personally i would do the same as when a good road has a bunch of cars 10+ in a row and lots of solid white lines. Pull over for a bit, take a breather, give it 5 and get back on the road. Hopefully by that point you've got a good bit of breathing space and they've buggered off
Mr Speirs
11-09-12, 06:08 PM
what if you have no alternative but to overtake on a bend as the person in front is cracking the throttle open on every straight but going round bends almost upright?
In that case I'd give them a boot on the way past on the inside :) ;)
If they want to get past they need to put the effort in as I'm not going to alter my line.
point out to them that they need training as clearly they don't get the idea of having 2 wheels.
Personally i would do the same as when a good road has a bunch of cars 10+ in a row and lots of solid white lines. Pull over for a bit, take a breather, give it 5 and get back on the road. Hopefully by that point you've got a good bit of breathing space and they've buggered off
I'm with Daddyjob on this one. If you can't get around them AND get away just pull over and chill for a bit.
If they are fast on straights and slow in bends then you going past them will either have them up your chuff on the next straight or have you pulling them out of a hedge on the next corner.
i think a lot of people get upset especially the ones in groups when i make my way threw them as i get a lot of funny looks at meeting points.
why don't people keep an eye on their mirrors and let faster riders by is beyond me. if someone comes fast up behind me (good luck on that one but it has happened) i pull over a little, slow up a little and usher them by and think 'go on my son' and have a big grin on my face.
then you get the complete opposite ****s that think they have the skill to chase you which i find funny as feck watching them get all out of shape in my mirrors.
most of the time it's the power rangers that pizz me off as they blast up the straights (yes m8 you have a big powerful bike) then pussyfoot round the corners, it's those that i end up having to overtake on bends.
then you get the dozy fecks that don't check their mirrors or use indicators before an overtake. so they have given no intent to pass the vehicle in front at which point i'm usually winding on the throttle with my indicator on when they decide that they want to do the same which results in a shake of the head.
and the one that really really get my goat is the 'i ride for myself'. well if that's your attitude then feck off and find another group coz if your in mine you look out for each other.
yes i have no friends :-)
Fallout
11-09-12, 07:45 PM
I'd ride with you Bibio. Probably have to put a 5bhp restrictor on my bike and put myself under sedation to keep myself slow enough to ride at your pace, but I'd be willing to do that.
On a more serious note, the only thing I disagree with is the checking mirrors before an overtake thing. I agree this should be done, but when I'm riding in a group, I expect the person behind to wait for me to overtake before blasting past me. If I am obviously positioning myself to overtake at the next opportunity, and when I go to do it, the person behind is trying to leap frog me and car, that's a bit out of order. Don't think that's ever happened in the groups I ride in.
The only exception is when we ride with restricted bikes or newbies who have no intention of overtaking, and then they're fair game, so long as they're not obviously positioning themselves to overtake.
Aside from that, I have no probs when people go past me. In fact, like you I'm well up for it because I enjoy playing about (safely!) on the road, and a procession of bikes riding in order is no fun.
yes yes the restrictor and sedation would be a great idea. you might get that sedated i might be in luck, big boy :-)
i agree about the group thing and overtaking i'm on about the dozy blighter's that are out by their own with a bubble round them.
Spank86
11-09-12, 08:20 PM
You forgetting about Nathan fallout?
He roams around the group like a little lost sheep at times.
If I had someone faster behind and was trying to ride fast I'd wave them past and give chase, not to be the big man but to try and learn from them.
Mirrors are just to hang indicators from ;)
Specialone
11-09-12, 09:02 PM
what if you have no alternative but to overtake on a bend as the person in front is cracking the throttle open on every straight but going round bends almost upright?
Get a faster bike so you do a flyby at 170 on the straight, that'll show them.
Biker Biggles
11-09-12, 09:14 PM
I used to have this problem but then I discovered Viagra.
widepants
11-09-12, 09:20 PM
I used to have this problem but then I discovered Viagra.
being a "real" man , I've never had a problem:smt030
Fallout
11-09-12, 10:03 PM
i agree about the group thing and overtaking i'm on about the dozy blighter's that are out by their own with a bubble round them.
Yes agreed. They can burn in hell.
You forgetting about Nathan fallout?
He roams around the group like a little lost sheep at times.
This is true, and I did think of Nathan, but I've never had him overtake when I was considering an overtake. It's always a case of I've seen a blind corner, and decided I don't want to die, and am obviously waiting for visibility, and then Nathan overtakes everyone at a billion miles per hour. I don't feel endangered by him, just sorry for the damage caused to the sound barrier. :)
Bordtea
12-09-12, 01:30 AM
On the checking mirrors before an overtake point, I now make sure I check my mirrors everytime I overtake after one time I was doing 65ish in a 60 so already breaking the speed and went to overtake some bikes in front, whacked on the indicators then did a quick half arsed glance in the mirror and noticed a police bike right up my ****.. safe to say I **** myself and cancelled the planned overtake ;) Luckily he was after the gixxer that had blasted past me at a ton a minute or so earlier...
for the reason you gave above you should be checking your mirrors all the time not just on overtakes etc.etc. i check my mirrors about every 10 seconds, it only takes a quick glance.
it's the same as the people who only look about 20ft in front of them. if you don't look as far as you can then how are you supposed to plan your next move. i never look at what's in front of me as it's always in my peripheral vision i'm looking at where the road is going as far up ahead as i can if there is a bend up ahead then i'm looking at where that bend is likely to go by looking threw gaps in foliage, other cars, telegraph poles etc.etc for an idea. if i cant see where the road is going then i use caution. unlike the 'bubble people' as i like to call them who think the world ends 20ft in front of their noise.
Fallout
12-09-12, 09:32 AM
I don't look in my mirrors when I'm ragging it. Things tend to come up on you quite rapidly, and a half second glance in a mirror seems to become a 5 second confused stare when they're vibrating themselves into a blurred oblivion. :D But yes, other than during those periods of frivolous riding which require full concentration, constant mirror checking is essential! How else would I know if my make-up is in good order?
nope i'm still checking my mirrors while ragging it as the boys in blue are sneaky fecks even more so those with the unmarked superbikes. but one tell tale sign is they don't stick their leg out unlike almost every single power ranger these days ;)
god bless the knee down brigade :rolleyes:
Fallout
12-09-12, 10:14 AM
Are you a textiles man then Bibio? I am, but that's because I'm cheap. Plus I don't need any knee down action. My legs are so long, if I stuck mine out, I would hit oncoming vehicles and pedestrians. :)
nope.. full on cowhide in black with black boots, gloves, black lid and visor all all of which nicely cotted in bugs. i cant get kneedown action as i have the opposite, no matter how much i stick my knee out it would never ever touch the tarmac and if it did then i would be crashing :-)
dizzyblonde
12-09-12, 10:30 AM
This should keep you safe from the bends :)
http://www.chewingpixels.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/the_bends.gif
On a serious note, when someone overtakes me on a bend, my bumhole shrinks and my right knee kinda jerks up towards the tank.....and I start sucking like an expensive mechanic through my teeth!
On a serious note, when someone overtakes me on a bend, my bumhole shrinks and my right knee kinda jerks up towards the tank.....and I start sucking like an expensive mechanic through my teeth!
noted.. mwhahahaaaaaaaaaaaa :smt047
Your fortunate you can see more than just arms and elbows in your mirrors .
no.. i have mirrors that have been on growth hormones :-)
Need to mod mine over the winter lay off.
Mind you when Rictus goes for the overtake you can hear him before you see him lol.
mine look a bit stupid i suppose to other people but they do work and work very very well. with them being so tall they are more in my field of vision.
speedyandypandy
12-09-12, 12:31 PM
If I know the guy I'm riding with I don't mind if I know he's got the skills. If it's some newbie trying to hard I will just stop, have a snus/cig break and let him get on with suicide.
On track I dislike being overtaken, will bite my teeth together and try to get back in front.
Mirrors.... If you don't use mirrors, go to the TT, you will learn the hard way to use them, if you ever thought you've seen stupid on a motorcycle, go to the TT, you will see Mr.Stupid and his friends Mr.Idiot, Mr.Iowntheroad and Mr.Suicide all in the same place, you will be watching your back after some overtaking moves that would even be nasty even in BSB.
Fallout
12-09-12, 12:38 PM
Mirrors.... If you don't use mirrors, go to the TT, you will learn the hard way to use them, if you ever thought you've seen stupid on a motorcycle, go to the TT, you will see Mr.Stupid and his friends Mr.Idiot, Mr.Iowntheroad and Mr.Suicide all in the same place, you will be watching your back after some overtaking moves that would even be nasty even in BSB.
This is why I won't ride the TT course. Not afraid of killing myself. I'm afraid of someone else killing me. I'd be happy to ride it semi energetically, but Mr.FlatOut and Mr.DeathWish would probably rear end me.
if i ever go to the IOM then it will be during the off season.
Spank86
12-09-12, 12:45 PM
This is why I won't ride the TT course. Not afraid of killing myself. I'm afraid of someone else killing me. I'd be happy to ride it semi energetically, but Mr.FlatOut and Mr.DeathWish would probably rear end me.
well then just follow nathan and me instead then.
hey Spank.. do you wear tight leathers?
Spank86
12-09-12, 12:55 PM
kinky.
But no, not usually. Just kevlar jeans, my bodys not valuable enough to bother protecting.
Fallout
12-09-12, 01:46 PM
Spank wears crocodile hide.
Spank86
12-09-12, 01:48 PM
Only my bike boots.
I'm like hampshires answer to Jimmy Nail.
kinky.
But no, not usually. Just kevlar jeans, my bodys not valuable enough to bother protecting.
To be honest, at the rate you corner you'll be puree regardless of more robust bike wear.
speedyandypandy
12-09-12, 04:43 PM
if i ever go to the IOM then it will be during the off season.
I've been told the Manx GP is better, more 'adults' about or less 'I'mthenewMcGuinnes' people about.
To be honest, at the rate you corner you'll be puree regardless of more robust bike wear.
Trees, armaco, stonewalls, cars and such only exists if you hit them.
Doesn't happen to me...I'm too awesome and quick to be overtaken on a bend.
I must admit that it has happened to me once... my bike was breaking down at the time :-)
The Idle Biker
12-09-12, 07:51 PM
I must admit that it has happened to me once... my bike was breaking down at the time :-)
in your dreams :smt015
GowerSV
12-09-12, 09:50 PM
Oh whatever - if I see a biker close up behind and he obviously wants to pass, I pull across to let him go - he might be in a rush or late or just faster than me. If I'm feeling bad and don't want him to get past me for some reason, I'll hog the road but most times I let him go. If he's a real nutter, he won't be doing it for much longer !
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