What would you do?

[widepants]

Right , this is a quick history of the situation .I live in an adapted council house with my disabled son and 5 yr old daughter in a quiet(ish) village .The kids love to play in the garden with their friends .
Across the road live a family of chavs with 5 kids under the age of 7 .
The oldest one is 7 and totally out of control and runs wild like a feral animal.He smashes, windows throws stones ,attacks everyone and makes everyones life a mysery.
He keeps trying to attack my lad because he is differant and no matter how many times I go out he just tells me to ****off you **** , and throws rocks at the house ,or climbs over the fence into the back garden to throw at the back window.
I'v lost track of the times I and the neighbours have told his parents but 5 minutes later he is back out .
Tonight he came in the garden and whipped my 5 yr old across the back with a 4 ft lenght of wiring cable .
Any ideas ? This is driving me mad .

[minimorecambe]

hit it

[Spank86]

Police, repeatedly.

And a video camera that only videos on your land.

Make sure it does only cover your land though.

[widepants]

he is 7 , but I feel like it .The problem is the kids are with me because the socialservice put them on the "at risk register" because they were seeing their mum and her new b friend knocking the kak out of each other ,and other stuff.I have to be mega carefull

[andrewsmith]

Hook the little fecker.

A little **** like this turns into a total **** later on. I live in a village where most the kids require control by Tazer


edit: seeing your situation, police and social mate. You'll wind them up enough to deal with him

[fizzwheel]

As the others have said Police.

Also keep a diary of what the little sh*te does and when. That way you'll have documentation of how long its been going on for.

[Spank86]

Diary, and discretely record all convos with him or family and then transcribe them before deleting.

[The Idle Biker]

It's a tough one because the little scrote sounds like he's having a ****ing tough time himself from your post.

What about trying to get him onside and (in a non smutty way) being friendly to him and trying to explain things?

[Shellywoozle]

Police. Although he is under the age of criminal responsibility so it is difficult for them to do a fat lot. The parents need to take the responsibility for their kids actions, plod on their doorstep may make them do that. Sounds like you have nothing to loose x

[svrich]

Children's (social) services and the housing authority. The diary of events is a very good idea, and even better if your other neighbours can do the same.
If a child (under the age of 18 ) gets assulted the assulter (is that even a word?!), if convicted, will become a schedule 1 offender. This is even true if the assulter is a child themselves. If this lad is beating other children he needs dealing with by the police asap.

[widepants]

It's a tough one because the little scrote sounds like he's having a ****ing tough time himself from your post.

What about trying to get him onside and (in a non smutty way) being friendly to him and trying to explain things?
I have tried to reason with him numerous times , but as soon as my back is turned he knicks things and hits the other kids in the garden.
For three weeks we have had a hedgehog coming into the garden about 9pm and we feed it cat food and watch it through the window.Not seen it for a week and when I mentioned it to the locals lads , they told me the scrote had found it in a hedge and cut its legs off before stabbing it ...says it all

[andrewsmith]

I have tried to reason with him numerous times , but as soon as my back is turned he knicks things and hits the other kids in the garden.
For three weeks we have had a hedgehog coming into the garden about 9pm and we feed it cat food and watch it through the window.Not seen it for a week and when I mentioned it to the locals lads , they told me the scrote had found it in a hedge and cut its legs off before stabbing it ...says it all

He's black (not meant in a racist manner)

Get the housing etc.. involved

[widepants]

his landlord is a private one so screwed there.
Thanks for the diary advice , gonna be a long one

[Jackie_Black]

Hook the little fecker.

A little **** like this turns into a total **** later on. I live in a village where most the kids require control by Tazer


edit: seeing your situation, police and social mate. You'll wind them up enough to deal with him

Which of our lovely villages do you reside in?

Must be somewhere posh like tynemouth if you only need a tazer, here in palmersville a sawn off is required.

[widepants]

its too far to town for the village idiots to walk , they wont have the energy to smash things up there

[andrewsmith]

Which of our lovely villages do you reside in?

Must be somewhere posh like tynemouth if you only need a tazer, here in palmersville a sawn off is required.

Lemington Jackie

Moat Country. Tazer is set as a claymore

[tactcom7]

Dont forget the RSPCA if you can get the ****e to admit to it.

[Jackie_Black]

Surely in lemington a tazer is a mere warning. The charvas up here require a severe clack with something well.... solid.

In response to the op though the kid is just seeking attention by the sounds of it all. unfortunately its all the fault of his family and turning him into a decent human is going to be hard. you'd be better off trying to get him onside to be honest. Kids are mostly a product of their environment until they hit about 13 then they are mostly ****s.

[widepants]

the age is the problem that we all face . Too young for the law to do anything ,and the parents dont care as long as he is somewhere else

[andrewsmith]

Surely in lemington a tazer is a mere warning. The charvas up here require a severe clack with something well.... solid.

In response to the op though the kid is just seeking attention by the sounds of it all. unfortunately its all the fault of his family and turning him into a decent human is going to be hard. you'd be better off trying to get him onside to be honest. Kids are mostly a product of their environment until they hit about 13 then they are mostly ****s.

Aye scaff bar TBH then straight into the waiting army waggon

[missyburd]

For three weeks we have had a hedgehog coming into the garden about 9pm and we feed it cat food and watch it through the window.Not seen it for a week and when I mentioned it to the locals lads , they told me the scrote had found it in a hedge and cut its legs off before stabbing it ...says it all
:( that's truly sickening. And what do they say kids who torture animals turn into later on in life? I think you have every duty to report his actions to the police, or they'll be paying for it tenfold in 10 years or probably sooner :mad: I'm so sorry your son has to put up with this $h*t, it's completely irresponsible of the parents but sadly such a common situation children find themselves in. I really hope this is sorted soon #hugs#

[BBadger]

If its known he did what he did to the hedgehog would it be worth informing the rspca at all?
i know its not the police but another authoritative figure at door step and dependant on the families response to them they can take further action and bring along the proper authority to deal with this kid.

The way i see it, the more that "they" being police or the likes know the more can be done.

that or a set of new concrete boots and a boat ride to show your appreciation for his lovely demeanor.

[widepants]

last week I felt so angry with myself .He was sitting out of the bedroom window and for a split second I wanted him to fall

[svrich]

Don't feel bad, everyone has dark thoughts. It's the fu**ers that act on them that need sorting.. oh, wait...

[Specialone]

:( that's truly sickening. And what do they say kids who torture animals turn into later on in life? I think you have every duty to report his actions to the police, or they'll be paying for it tenfold in 10 years or probably sooner :mad: I'm so sorry your son has to put up with this $h*t, it's completely irresponsible of the parents but sadly such a common situation children find themselves in. I really hope this is sorted soon #hugs#

I was just about to post the same thing, report it now.

Kids like will only ever be pure evil, sad as it sounds, he has no hope, he will be inside on a long stretch before he's 21 I guarantee it.

Bit young to be kidnapped unfortunately.

Out of interest is their house council?
With enough evidence, they will evict problem families, it's the authorities responsibility to help you and other families in your area.

[widepants]

private landlord .Dad on the dole but goes to work everyday..you know the type

[andrewsmith]

Dole fraud line

[Specialone]

In that case mate, I'd move.

[BBadger]

Theres one for benefit fraud then.
No income then they would hav to move.

[Jackie_Black]

In that case mate, I'd move.

it might be easier, if the kid cannot be reasoned with and/or helped then just get out of it. Life's too short, although there are ****s everywhere.

[Jayneflakes]

That is dreadful and the total opposite of the gentle kind support that your children deserve and need. I am sorry to hear this and hope that you can find an answer soon.

I seem to recall that reports of this nature can be taken up with the council, who after so many reports can enforce a removal order for problem families who are very disruptive. I would recommend advice from the Council and a chat with the Police about this matter, before some one gets hurt.

For this to be happening to your son is criminal and it may be that strong action is needed to make the other boys parents understand the potential harm they are doing to another human being. Shame on them.

[Jackie_Black]

Thing is, you complain and they get moved and some other poor ******* has to deal with them. It's a rubbish state of affairs really isn't it. Society is far too soft these days unfortunately.

[dizzyblonde]

I just posted something and it randomly went into the wrong thread!

Social services are likely to be already aware so you having a chat with them will only highlight the concern more urgent.

We had a kid years ago who killed next doors rabbit. Used to sit on the porch of his house trying to put the windows through with a plank of wood. Everyone reckoned he had ADHD. His little brother no older than Oli would be out in all weather nowt on his feet in a spider man costume. As time went on the older lad used to get carted off in a police car for his behaviour.

As it transpired it was the mother that was to blame. There were older kids in care, already. Eventually the lad went into care himself and the little one went into his dads custody. The mother moved after that.

Say something to the social, for your kids and his sake.

[Milky Bar Kid]

Thing is, you complain and they get moved and some other poor ******* has to deal with them. It's a rubbish state of affairs really isn't it. Society is far too soft these days unfortunately.

Whilst I agree that this sucks, at the end of the day, Widepants needs to be selfish with this one and think only of his own family.

Hound the local community plod, the council, social work and benefit fraud folks. And I mean hound them. Keep a diary. Definately keep a diary! Get as much corroboration as you can too, neighbours or friends and family witnessing stuff where possible.

[Bluefish]

Feel for you mate, nothing else constructive to add to what has already been said, so good luck you're going to need it.

[Balky001]

That really horrible mate. Sounds like you want to keep the peace but as others have said, you need to get others involved. Police, social services, Council. Even if it lightens up a bit it still needs sorting. I really feel for you and the kids.

[svrich]

You could also try the local health visitor team if the family have under 5's in the house (their case load is lighter than Social Workers and they are bound to check out alligations), the boys school (for the same reasons), does your son have a CWD Socail Worker? If so then you should be informing them (or any other support he has). Try Citizens advice as there may be a local organisation for landlords that you can complain to. Is there a Children's Centre in the area? Thay may know of the family if there is and contact them directly and notify Social Services. Unfortunately RSPCA won't be able to do anything unless there is evidence.

[Bibio]

kick ten bells out the dad and make the little darling watch.

[monkey]

Haven't you got a fox problem in your garden that could justify an electric fence? ;)

I'd keep on complaining to anyone who will (or won't) listen. It would also be good to keep a record of any incidents and get the neighbours to do the same. He who shouts loudest and all. We had a family removed from where I live because of the kids.

Pre-edit: Just read the others posts and it seems I'm not the first to suggest all of this (apart from the electric fence).

[gruntygiggles]

Mate...you need to get organised with this.

Having had the pleasure of meeting your little ones on a few occasions, I am only too aware of how vulnerable they would be in a situation like this, through age and in the case of your son, his challenges. It is therefore imperative that you get yourself heard and get this sorted out.

I agree with MBK...when you have your children to think about, you have to put yourself first, so getting them off your street has to be your main priority.

Police, Social, Benefit Fraud etc. have all been mentioned, but how you deal with them will be key to getting this sorted and what you need is to be organised and methodical in your reporting of this.

Get names of people you speak to and always ask to speak to them. If you don't get a call back or you report a particular incident and nothing happens, call every single day, remaining polite, but being firm in your insistence that your children are in need of protection from this lad.

You get my drift I am sure. I would imagine this lad is like this for a reason and that usually starts at home, so I would leave it to the authorities and not get too involved if at all possible with the family directly.

Only other thing I can say might be worth trying is getting hold of the details of the landlord. You can probably find them on the UK land registry and may be able to find other addresses for them or even go to the agent if they used one. If you make repeated complaints to the landlord, he or she may decide to save themselves the hassle and give notice to the family anyway.

Don't leave any stone unturned and make absolutely sure you always do things by the book.

[widepants]

Cheers hun , I have found out who the landlord is ......The scrotes dads uncle. pffft

[widepants]

well , the story goes on . Yesterday I had to make 3 reports to the police . Twice because the scrote came into the garden to attack my son and once because he stole the toys from the garden.The police came out today again . I have found out though , that there have been over 20 complains about him(scrote) this month alone.

[gruntygiggles]

well , the story goes on . Yesterday I had to make 3 reports to the police . Twice because the scrote came into the garden to attack my son and once because he stole the toys from the garden.The police came out today again . I have found out though , that there have been over 20 complains about him(scrote) this month alone.

Then I am sure you won't be waiting too long as they have better things to do than put up with all the extra work this little thug is giving them.

[Treacle]

Have you got a patio Widepants?

[widepants]

I need a fish pond

[tactcom7]

Try watching channel 4 now. all about **** kids.

[widepants]

good timing

[andrewsmith]

Try watching channel 4 now. all about **** kids.

very apt!

[Dabteacake]

Just play the escalation game. next time he comes on your property set his house on fire :)

[ClunkintheUK]

I have absolutely no advice to offer that wouldn't be redundant. Just want to say I really hope you get this all sorted for you and yours as soon as possible. That they somehow deal with this problem Family, and you don't have to move.

[widepants]

Had the child psycologist round today . Looks like this is setting my lad back by years..
Kept mine in tonight , so he attacked the young girl who was visiting the next door .This time he just swung a scooter at her , and where was his mum? Giving birth to another one .

[DJ123]

should organize an Org event at your house ;)

[widepants]

now thats a possibility