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k1ngy SV
16-09-12, 05:26 PM
Right i know this is bike talk stuff but its also tuning/tweaking .. as..

Iv been practising doing wheelie's :smt040 (down a old industrial estate, which is now private land)
Iv got it up in the air & now starting to feel more comfy with doing so, but its so hard to try & get it in the air in the first place... worth going to a 14 front sprocket instead of the 15 standard one?
(i know it will make engine more buzzy from the extra revs for 70mph top gear)

iv done the bounce technique in first and that's okayish, but i really want to be-able to clutch it up in 2nd which iv only had afew hopeful success's with.:rolleyes:

Disclaimer **
*I am no way breaking a law or intend to do so, or want to encourage others to do so for that matter* :takeabow:

sunshine
16-09-12, 07:21 PM
more rev's as you clutch it in second*, the sv torque is enough to lift it with power if you have the technique right.

*I in no way encourage wheelies, or accept any responsibility when/if you bin the bike.

k1ngy SV
16-09-12, 07:26 PM
more rev's as you clutch it in second*, the sv torque is enough to lift it with power if you have the technique right.

*I in no way encourage wheelies, or accept any responsibility when/if you bin the bike.
Love it :D

& I im doing 3k revs going along in 2nd, then clutch in rev to 7k+ & drop clutch out.. all im getting is forward motion-speed & occasionaly a lift

sunshine
16-09-12, 07:34 PM
start on 5k, then blip the throttle upto about 7/8K, your moving faster and is a lot scarier but works better.
if you shut right off and snap the throttle back to the stop using them engine speeds, it should also lift.

Ride with the Lostboys by any chance?

k1ngy SV
16-09-12, 07:47 PM
go along doing 5k revs, let off throttle, clutch in, rev like mad 7/8k then drop clutch out yehh?

& never heard of it, tell me more?

joshwalker094
16-09-12, 07:48 PM
Right, something i know i have read on the forum on other wheelie threads, is DONT
i think its cause the sv is a wet clutch, and so when the bike is wheelieing you are effectivly starving the engine of oil, which we all know is bad and leads to bust engines.
hth
or let someone correct me if im wrong

k1ngy SV
16-09-12, 07:52 PM
Right, something i know i have read on the forum on other wheelie threads, is DONT
i think its cause the sv is a wet clutch, and so when the bike is wheelieing you are effectivly starving the engine of oil, which we all know is bad and leads to bust engines.
hth
or let someone correct me if im wrong

its the front cylinder runs dry, im not too fussed about that i only wanna be able to do them :rolleyes:

sunshine
16-09-12, 08:05 PM
Telford lostboys, banned from riding as a group by most organised ride-outs, my personal opinions are to strong for the forum, but they can teach you how to ride a bike on the back wheel.

Wheelies do lead to oil starvation in the front cylinder. and SV's are known by stunters to seize mid wheelie unless you modify a front cylinder oiling system, which help but dont eliminate the problem (dont ask me how to do that).

yes that would be the correct way to do it but this is higher speed than your used to, dangerous and without having experience in wheelies and stunting is plain stupid.

Dont complain to me when/if you bin it, at those speeds if something goes wrong you WILL get hurt the best leathers arent going to save you from seriously getting hurt and i take no responsibility for other peoples stupidity in stunting road bikes.

k1ngy SV
16-09-12, 08:21 PM
Telford lostboys, banned from riding as a group by most organised ride-outs, my personal opinions are to strong for the forum, but they can teach you how to ride a bike on the back wheel.

never heard of them, I don't intend to be doing wheelies in groups or dangerously in public place's. Just saying.

yes that would be the correct way to do it but this is higher speed than your used to, dangerous and without having experience in wheelies and stunting is plain stupid.

Dont complain to me when/if you bin it, at those speeds if something goes wrong you WILL get hurt the best leathers arent going to save you from seriously getting hurt and i take no responsibility for other peoples stupidity in stunting road bikes.

*higher speed then im used to? meaning.. it will throw the front of the bike in the air speed or being on one wheel doing 30mhps speed?

*& i understand your opinion as i share the same, though its always nice to have a little extra skill & im loving the adrenaline rush from them.

*& isnt that the risk we take by being alive everyday? the risk of binning are bikes being stunt or road alike & hurting are selves :smt029

sunshine
16-09-12, 08:39 PM
*higher speed then im used to? meaning.. it will throw the front of the bike in the air speed or being on one wheel doing 30mhps speed?
back speeds of 30mph+ can be dangerous if you bike control slips up a bit.

*& i understand your opinion as i share the same, though its always nice to have a little extra skill & im loving the adrenaline rush from them.
just be careful, its worth slowly building up to the speed so the 3K jump doesnt scare the **** out of you and you bin it from being so scared

*& isnt that the risk we take by being alive everyday? the risk of binning are bikes being stunt or road alike & hurting are selves :smt029
i dont want to listen to people complaining at me for my advice hurting you. trained stunters learn tricks of leaving there bikes to fly off minimising damage to themselves, and stunt bikes have roll bars so you cant flip them so easy.

DJ123
16-09-12, 08:45 PM
go to a wheelie school. Better to get taught by people who know how to do it and in a safe environment.

k1ngy SV
16-09-12, 08:55 PM
go to a wheelie school. Better to get taught by people who know how to do it and in a safe environment.

Really think that's a good idea ? Im 17/18 so would i be able to go? just wondering because isn't there a age limit to get your track lisense ? acu or something?

*goes to google to look quick :smt040*

k1ngy SV
16-09-12, 09:06 PM
TOP GEAR TRACK ! !!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :smt040



http://www.learn2wheelie.co.uk/

svadil
16-09-12, 09:11 PM
I cant get my sv up i have a k6 pointy n i try power wheelieing it but i cant get it up any tips?

k1ngy SV
16-09-12, 09:22 PM
http://www.jimmyfireblade.co.uk/courses.html

svadil

from a stop or rolling 2mph grab a full on harsh mof*Ttg jtbvn wrist full of a throttle till about 16mhp? /4kish or so revs it veries with riders, close throttle quick! then back on harsrhshshshsh !! when you feel the bounce of the tyre or when the bike drops & remember your back/rear brake, thats important all the time & also if you open the throttle after uv closed it, it stops it being so hard

http://www.svrider.com/tips/wheelie.htm
thats where i got it from & it works,

-but i still refer to my original post on how its so hard & just doesn't want to come up-

sunshine
16-09-12, 09:24 PM
17/18, should have a restricted ecu, there's your problem, wait til your restriction ends then try again.
Same goes to you svadil

k1ngy SV
16-09-12, 09:30 PM
17/18, should have a restricted ecu, there's your problem, wait til your restriction ends then try again.
Same goes to you svadil

I do have a restricted ecu which is fitted on my bike all the time, while im on the road to comply with my license.

I refer to my original post below,

Iv been practising doing wheelie's :smt040 (down a old industrial estate, which is now private land)

sunshine
16-09-12, 09:38 PM
i remember reading somewhere that private car parks on industrial estates is still considered public highway meaning your still restricted but im not 100% sure of legal issue within that. if it is legally considered public highway its illegal to ride full power on a restricted license.

want to make it easier to do, buy a Curvy!

k1ngy SV
16-09-12, 11:57 PM
i remember reading somewhere that private car parks on industrial estates is still considered public highway meaning your still restricted but im not 100% sure of legal issue within that. if it is legally considered public highway its illegal to ride full power on a restricted license.

want to make it easier to do, buy a Curvy!

Its private land which used to be a big business therefore its not public & is one person owned, therefore with there saying so i can do what i like on her land within reason.. just like i can drive a car on private land or in a private field with permisson without a car license therefore im doing nothing illegal.
:rolleyes:

ecu swap takes minutes therefore easier for what im doing :smt029

Joe Marcon
17-09-12, 12:14 AM
I go second go to 5k revs snap clutch more revs and it goes but i can only hold for 3 secs . Need to learn to change gear while up but its hard lol . 3rd gear clutch up is non exsistant lol

Bordtea
17-09-12, 02:03 AM
I can get my front end up with my restricted SV.. took a bit of practice and it doesnt last very long but basically just trundle along at around 3.5k in 1st, and it's quite a refined technique which you need to practice but it's sort of just a case of whacking back the throttle combined with a quick flick of the clutch, quite hard ot describe but you'll get the feel for it after a bit of practice. Can't get it up every time though mind

Elliott
17-09-12, 06:46 AM
2nd gear easy. Done 3rd and 4th but starting from a small bridge.

Do it for a laugh, know its stupid but puts a grin on my face!

Jayneflakes
17-09-12, 02:14 PM
Mine wheelies too easily, but then my bar conversion has my weight further back and the bars five inches higher than they were. Pulling away aggressively from a standing start has the front end waving in the air and my pants getting a nice brown stain! I can't deal with this wheelie lark, so tend to avoid it. The naughty part of me though does think that wheelies look cool! :D

Stenno
08-10-12, 07:49 PM
Did the learn2wheelie school today with injury_ian, had a great time, would definitely recommend it!

Idle the bike in first, then 50% throttle, count to two, clutch in and out in a millisecond. Boom.
And it's not a full clutch action, just enough to slip the clutch and then bite again.
Feed throttle to keep it up.

I'd advise starting slowly, either less throttle of less counting till clutch. We had the benefit of limit switches to cut out too much wheelie.

NTECUK
08-10-12, 08:53 PM
Keep you fingers on that clutch lever,when it goes t1+s up it's the only fast way to get it back .
Rear brake method is unlikely to get you out if the smelly stuff unless you a stunt ace or have the back on a separate lever.
New head stock bearings any one.

Scythe92
08-10-12, 09:43 PM
start on 5k, then blip the throttle upto about 7/8K, your moving faster and is a lot scarier but works better.
if you shut right off and snap the throttle back to the stop using them engine speeds, it should also lift.

Ride with the Lostboys by any chance?

I did this the other day just by chance, saw 5k and never done a wheelie delibrately using clutch before, so just popped the front wheel up for about 30m! :smt082 Only did the once, I'd like to be able to do it regularly but don't wanna trash my bike.

Scythe92
08-10-12, 09:45 PM
Its private land which used to be a big business therefore its not public & is one person owned, therefore with there saying so i can do what i like on her land within reason.. just like i can drive a car on private land or in a private field with permisson without a car license therefore im doing nothing illegal.
:rolleyes:

ecu swap takes minutes therefore easier for what im doing :smt029

Is it accessible from the road though?

The Idle Biker
08-10-12, 10:12 PM
Even an old dog can learn new tricks. Woof woof paarrpppppp. :smt018

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd400/IdleBiker/Gixxer/WHEELIE.jpg

Dabteacake
08-10-12, 11:15 PM
30m!! was that off a jump lol