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TheRamJam
22-09-12, 11:35 AM
Well folks I guess there's a first time for everything. Last Saturday I came off my bike :(

Not a scratch on me as I was in full gear but the bike is a complete wreck. Here is a few pictures. Looking at where the bike snapped in two. It was right on the weld, should a frame snap like that in a relatively slow speed low side?? :confused:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c177/cmcfa2/A_zps68facd9b.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c177/cmcfa2/2_zps585bd67c.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c177/cmcfa2/2012-09-16152618_zps0a11610c.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c177/cmcfa2/2012-09-16130005_zps9664cb01.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c177/cmcfa2/2012-09-16125956_zps110ef4a8.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c177/cmcfa2/2012-09-16152636_zps46263d4f.jpg

andrewsmith
22-09-12, 11:40 AM
Jesus Christ!! :shock:

You walked?
What you hit to snap the frame in half

Fruity-ya-ya
22-09-12, 11:45 AM
Flipping flip!!!

Glad you're okay. I hope the insurance company don't think you hit a plasma cutter!

TheRamJam
22-09-12, 11:45 AM
I hit nothing. The front lost grip in a left hand bend. I went down and the bike slid about 30 metres down the road and hit the kerb.

andrewsmith
22-09-12, 11:47 AM
Anyways a frame should only fail at extreme levels of stress on the material Inc welds.
Normally a failure like that would be if the bike hit a tree or similar at speed and you in bad mess or worse.

Good thing is your in 1 piece mate

squirrel_hunter
22-09-12, 12:14 PM
I think Suzuki might what to see that. I remember a few years back there was a issue on GSXR1000's that required a recall to have a brace glued to the frame. Not sure what year that was but just something to think about...

andrewsmith
22-09-12, 12:32 PM
Might have been k5, it's what the lads said in the dealers down here when a said gixxer thou

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peterco
22-09-12, 01:09 PM
Very nasty that,especially on the weld.

glad yor ok.

Geodude
22-09-12, 01:18 PM
Glad your okay bud, what you getting next ;)

Bibio
22-09-12, 01:24 PM
ooopppssss. glad your ok.

no a frame should not snap there if it has been welded properly. looks like it has ripped the cartridges apart as well, did the front get trapped in one of the legs of the barrier?

+1 to get in contact with Suzuki.

bike now looks like a drag bike:-)

oohh and don't touch a sodding thing till the assessor has had a look.

Nostrils
22-09-12, 03:50 PM
Damn! Glad you walked away unscathed! I am no engineer but I don't think a frame should snap that easily and so emphatically, not just a bit of the weld!! Ask the assessor what they think of the damage!

shonadoll
22-09-12, 03:54 PM
I keep looking at this and it never fails to amaze me you walked away. It looks like a catastrophic failure for a relatively innocuous accident- the level of damage seems extensive and well ott to me. You look at that and think someone must have died in that accident, thank god you're ok. I'd get Suzuki involved.

sv_rory
23-09-12, 09:53 AM
Glad your ok mate! I cant believe how clean the snap is and how bad it is for a little off! I would be straight onto suzuki!

mister c
23-09-12, 10:49 AM
Glad you walked away from it unhurt, good kit always does it's job.
My SV snapped in half when I had my bad off, headstock parted company completely from the rest of the bike. i was doing about 50 mph at the time. I suppose it's the way the bike impacts the immoveable object. Could be worth having a word with Suzuki

Nick_69
23-09-12, 10:54 AM
I havnt seen a bike look that bad in a while, glad to here you all fine thou. I would differently let suzuki know about this

Spanner Man
23-09-12, 11:17 AM
Good afternoon all.


Glad you're ok.

I have seen many alloy frames snap on the welds, even after relatively low speed accidents.

Back in the 90's, I had a customer bump her ZZR600 into the back of a car. The car was fitted with impact resistant bumpers, & there was no damage to it.
Her bike on the other hand, had several cracks to the welds where the headstock joins.

I suspect that the welding process makes the alloy brittle in certain cases. Give me a good steel frame any day of the week.


Cheers.

L3nny
23-09-12, 11:24 AM
Bit of T-Cut will sort that out!

speedplay
23-09-12, 12:38 PM
"Dear mr suzuki, I was carefully riding my gixxer thou in the appropriate manner, with consideration to road and traffic conditions when to my horror the frame detatched itself throwing both myself and my bike into a kerb...."

Jayneflakes
23-09-12, 01:14 PM
Hmm, was the bike second hand when you bought it? Maybe there is a hidden past in there somewhere that could cause a failure like that?

Did the bike frame fail causing the crash or did it fail after the crash? Either way, an interesting piece of sculpture for the garden or maybe a nice engine for a chop shop to play with now that it is not going anywhere! Glad that you are OK though.

jambo
23-09-12, 03:23 PM
That looks proper nasty.

Do remember that when the bike hit the curb with its whole weight behind it, the forks act like a massive lever. Modern forks are thicker and stiffer than the old conventional forks used to be. A lot of force can get transferred to the headstock.

Glad you're ok!

Jambo

Specialone
24-09-12, 06:12 AM
Weakest part of any welded joint is the area directly either side of the weld itself.
I've seen plenty of snapped welds on heavy ish machinery, cars, push bikes etc and nearly all have gone at this place, the weld itself is normally still attached to one side of the joint.

SIII
24-09-12, 08:10 AM
Just seen this! Glad your OK bud.

missyburd
24-09-12, 08:33 AM
Just amazing you've come away unscathed but I guess you sliding off before the bike decides to bounce off stuff is always going to be the best course of action :)

What a sorry mess though, poor motysickle!

AJC
24-09-12, 08:22 PM
Yikes, unlucky mate! Glad you're okay.

Soo.... What ya getting next mister?...

TheRamJam
25-09-12, 11:22 AM
Yikes, unlucky mate! Glad you're okay.

Soo.... What ya getting next mister?...

Dunno really, depends what the insurance folk offer me. Still got a year to pay on the finance so that's about £1500

Fancy a S1000RR although it will have to be second hand or maybe look at a new L2 GSXR 1000 :D

Will prob be next year before i get one thoughh :(

andrewsmith
25-09-12, 11:36 AM
The brakes on the L2 Gsxr are impressive.
Meant to be too much for the forks

hardhat_harry
25-09-12, 09:31 PM
Glad your ok....

As no one else has asked, can I have your front end ;p

muzikill
26-09-12, 07:41 AM
Dumbfounded...... Those pics look like something the papers pounce on to give us a bad name. I would get in touch with suzuki uk .

monkey
27-09-12, 12:05 AM
I think Suzuki might what to see that...

...+1 to get in contact with Suzuki....

"Dear mr suzuki, I was carefully riding my gixxer thou in the appropriate manner, with consideration to road and traffic conditions when to my horror the frame detatched itself throwing both myself and my bike into a kerb...."

... would get in touch with suzuki uk .

+5

That looks proper nasty.

Do remember that when the bike hit the curb with its whole weight behind it, the forks act like a massive lever. Modern forks are thicker and stiffer than the old conventional forks used to be. A lot of force can get transferred to the headstock.


Assumption is a m(c)ock up but I can't see what else could have caused this rather large problem other than a bad weld, whether it hit something solid before or after the OP wanted to test his protective kit.

I would be very careful with timing if you are considering going to the big boys in case of insurance interference.

BanannaMan
27-09-12, 02:36 AM
Wow that's the worst low speed damage I've ever seen.
Glad you're OK!

yorkie_chris
27-09-12, 08:28 AM
Dunno really, depends what the insurance folk offer me. Still got a year to pay on the finance so that's about £1500

Fancy a S1000RR although it will have to be second hand or maybe look at a new L2 GSXR 1000 :D

Will prob be next year before i get one thoughh :(

Looking at the state of that what about a superdream 250? Or a burgman? :-P


Or just get a spare frame on ebay and have something fast and naked :)

Mark_h
27-09-12, 10:05 AM
Get practicing wheelies and keep it like it is!

Damn impressive to walk away from that.