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http://news.yahoo.com/three-states-vote-legalizing-recreational-pot-005150342.html
Specialone
13-11-12, 05:15 PM
Don't think it's a great move tbh, with some states pro and the rest against, it's a confusing message it's sending out.
Americans aren't known for their self regulation either, look at the way some eat.
Wideboy
13-11-12, 08:36 PM
isn't Seattle in Washington state? I remember hearing that Seattle is the most depressed city in America?
oh dear :lol:
Come on Britain, catch up!!
Sid Squid
13-11-12, 08:55 PM
You don't post for ages then someone mentions a spliff and there you are!
The Idle Biker
13-11-12, 09:49 PM
I don't like pot. I found it............well? unexciting......and that was some goooooood stuff. Didn't like it all.
Specialone
13-11-12, 09:55 PM
I don't like pot. I found it............well? unexciting......and that was some goooooood stuff. Didn't like it all.
I prefer cider if im honest.
Wideboy
13-11-12, 10:05 PM
you've not smoked enough then!
Fallout
13-11-12, 10:10 PM
Better a population of pot heads than drunks. If everyone was smacked out of their faces we'd have no drunken violence.
The Idle Biker
13-11-12, 10:22 PM
paranoid schizophrenics everywhere though, walking around mumbling to their imaginary friends and nicking chocolate off school kidz.
Drunken violence is OK as long as everyone is a willing participant.
Specialone
13-11-12, 10:24 PM
you've not smoked enough then!
Think that's half the problem Gav, I'm not a smoker, can't stand smoking anymore so would have to be used to make some cheery cakes :)
My mate had me ****ing my pants laughing a few months ago, he made himself some 'cakes' and used too much ingredients, literally went through every emotion lol
Specialone
13-11-12, 10:25 PM
paranoid schizophrenics everywhere though, walking around mumbling to their imaginary friends and nicking chocolate off school kidz.
Drunken violence is OK as long as everyone is a willing participant.
Actually doesn't have to be drunken, violence is ok if as you say there are willing participants.
widepants
13-11-12, 10:29 PM
i know someone once who sat in a small loo in a motel smoking their dope.turned it into a hot box and spent the next hour looking for murderers out of the window;)
dizzyblonde
13-11-12, 10:56 PM
i know someone once who sat in a small loo in a motel smoking their dope.turned it into a hot box and spent the next hour looking for murderers out of the window;)
He must have been tripping his nuts off :lol:
I'm with Gav. I'd rather be with a group of stoners than drunks. It doesn't lead to bad things, and you don't go robbing chocolates off school kids. Created some good music and art in the company of stoners. Always picked up pieces of nasty behaviour with drunks....not to mention cleaned up puke and other horrid habits.
I just couldn't put up with the smoking, I detest the habit. Buns and brownies all the way ;)
widepants
13-11-12, 11:03 PM
I was...... shhhhhhhhhhh
Thunderace
13-11-12, 11:53 PM
Used to like a bit of the proverbial before I joined the Army, now all those stoners I used to know are still knocking about together wasting all their money on pot and doing not a lot apart from drinking tea and dreaming up nonsense ideas of how to get rich so they can smoke more pot!
However drinking, if done properly is fookin hilariously good fun, I agree peeps being sick (daddyjob) on and around your furniture isn't brilliant, but with practice that stops happening, as the GMers will testify I am an animal on the **** and thoroughly entertaining, unless you are the one on the receiving end of my amusement! But me being the ****head, I get to deny all knowledge after the fact, due to the well known ****head get out clause "I don't remember that?".
You don't post for ages then someone mentions a spliff and there you are!
:smt039
BanannaMan
14-11-12, 06:14 AM
I see a repeat of California coming.
These states will set up their 'stores', sell some pot for a week or two and then the Federal Government (the feds) will come in and arrest all the major players for breaking or conspiring to break federal laws. End of.
Oddly enough, simple possession of up to 1.25 oz has been legal in Alaska for years!
STRAMASHER
14-11-12, 08:06 AM
Spain and particularly Andalucia has the right idea: Grow your own. (Well two plants per house if IIRC)
Declassify it. Free up Police time (although where would they get their free hash then?) Grow yer own.
You don't post for ages then someone mentions a spliff and there you are!
:winner::smt043
The Idle Biker
14-11-12, 02:49 PM
It doesn't lead to bad things,
I don't want to sound like an anti puff chest thumper, because in truth I don't really give a feck how people screw themselves up, but I've got 3 personal examples to share.
1. My mate, black Roy. I worked with him for 8 years, he was a good guy, very techhy. He smoked weed everyday I knew him and for years before. Year on year I saw the guy get slower, physically and mentally. The company I worked for kept finding him more and more junior positions for him. It was really screwing him up, he knew it, but couldn't stop. I left the company but heard after they sacked him and the guy went for psychological therapy but didn't do well.
2. Porky Pete. I worked with him as an apprentice. He was a *ucking idiot. Smoked weed all the time. 3 years I worked with him and by the end of it, he was a classic paranoid dope head. Lost all his mates, his jobs and a few front teeth when he accused me of knobbing his bird. (I didn't honest).
3. My Cousin Tim, smoked weed from his 15th Birthday till he jumped of a motorway bridge, into the traffic, killing himself at just 21 after being treated for paranoid schizophrenia.
So Dope does lead to bad things IMO, or it might actually be driving these guys nuts. :(
i know a lot of people who smoke weed and only 2 of them have mental problems but it has been diagnosed that they would have had them anyway. the people i know range from millionaires to skilled engineers and people on the dole.
i used to smoke the stuff when i was a youth but gave up as i grew up. it's a personal choice just like drink as far as 'm concerned but i have seen drink ruin more life's then pot/weed ever has.
i see no harm in any drug that is taken in moderation and if it was controlled instead of condemned then there would be a lot less crime and deaths.
Biker Biggles
14-11-12, 03:24 PM
i know a lot of people who smoke weed and only 2 of them have mental problems but it has been diagnosed that they would have had them anyway. the people i know range from millionaires to skilled engineers and people on the dole.
i used to smoke the stuff when i was a youth but gave up as i grew up. it's a personal choice just like drink as far as 'm concerned but i have seen drink ruin more life's then pot/weed ever has.
i see no harm in any drug that is taken in moderation and if it was controlled instead of condemned then there would be a lot less crime and deaths.
Very similar experiences for me too.I used to partake when younger,but I more or less got bored with it.Other drugs gave me much the same effect in that they were fun for a while but a bit pointless after the first fifty trips:smt051
These days I have the odd glass of wine,one or two beers a month,and very rarely anything else.
The last time I had canabis was when I ate a bit of cake,totally unaware that there was more to it than met the eye.:D
It took me well over an hour to cotton on to what the hell was wrong with me.:-D
Specialone
14-11-12, 03:25 PM
Used moderately, as other things, I dont think weed is that bad but if it's over used, I think it's worse than what people think, especially long term so I'm in agreement with IB on this.
The people I know that are regular users are a bit dim witted and I think some of it is down to weed.
Some of the problem is down to it getting stronger as well, it's much more potent than it used to be.
widepants
14-11-12, 03:55 PM
I suppose like alcohol it depends on how its being taken.
some people take a slow spliff and chill out , others just mash their heads with shotty bottles and bucket bongs.No different to a few pints or nocking back the shorts.
Wideboy
14-11-12, 03:58 PM
Could you blame pot for the downfall of music? The new latest maroon 5 **** has just come on the radio and I'd particularly like to punch the lead singer in the face for that one.
Who buys that guff, pot heads!
;)
no you can blame the lack of it for the downfall of music.
Wideboy
14-11-12, 04:07 PM
Ah touche :lol:
dizzyblonde
14-11-12, 04:16 PM
#stuff IB feels personally about#
So Dope does lead to bad things IMO, or it might actually be driving these guys nuts. :(
Maybe so.......but ask me how I know how to make a foot long joint which is a work of art, and then ask me how come I aren't like the folk you describe above.
It doesn't always lead to bad things IB, those people you describe are obviously already have a genetic makeup which unfortunately ends up leading to bad things. Its how your brain is wired.
I know some exceptionally hard workers, talented folk, and very clever people who smoke weed, and I also know some real bums too. Its all down to what you are made of, imho. I suppose a doctor or health professor could go into much more detail about how the human body reacts to substances....and abuse of such.
BTW. I don't partake in smoking of any kind, I find it vile. I wouldn't eat any funny cake either, unless it was given without knowing. I have smoked it in the past, rather a lot in fact, my batty behaviour is down to having two kids(all mothers brains shrink after birth, ladies swear it to be a fact) not weed. My poison of choice is red wine, never a lot, as I don't like saying hello to Rodney of the Kingdom of toilette ;)
i think some people would be shocked to know just how much of the public participate in smoking/eating the weed. there are a lot of closet smokers who would never ever admit to participating. it's been brainwashed into public society that its bad but alcohol on the other hand is good. another problem was the driving whilst under the influence as there was no means of detection that is until now.
a lot of hearsay and bad press was banded about in the late 70's about pot as well as stupid things like reefer madness in the 30's.
no it doesn't lead to people taking harder drugs and it's the shady dealers that do that as there is more money to be made out of addiction.
TBH i would not go near cannabis resin these days as it contains no cannabis but instead is made up of various other substances and i'm pretty sure that is what's making people go off their nutz.
grimey121uk
14-11-12, 06:13 PM
I think the broader topic here is why do people need mind altering drugs enjoy life. In the western world for some reason people are unable to enjoy anything from football to their kids birthday party without booze.
A admit that I have the odd pints of stout or bottle of magners (maybe 3 a month) but that's due to me liking the taste.
Specialone
14-11-12, 06:22 PM
I think the broader topic here is why do people need mind altering drugs enjoy life. In the western world for some reason people are unable to enjoy anything from football to their kids birthday party without booze.
A admit that I have the odd pints of stout or bottle of magners (maybe 3 a month) but that's due to me liking the taste.
Actually, that's a very valid point, I get my enjoyment from bikes so if I had to give up something, it would be drugs, alcohol etc, not bikes.
I don't drink anywhere as much as I used to and tbh I don't miss it, I like a drink but don't need one.
it's not just the western world it's the world over apart from those holy book believing individuals who think that they should let religion rule their life and take everything written in that book as the truth.
BTW i very very rarely drink as i don't need to drown my misery.
grimey121uk
14-11-12, 06:34 PM
Actually, that's a very valid point, I get my enjoyment from bikes so if I had to give up something, it would be drugs, alcohol etc, not bikes.
I don't drink anywhere as much as I used to and tbh I don't miss it, I like a drink but don't need one.
Another thing that bugs me is that I am always seen as the boring one, my friends go out every Friday and Saturday on the ****, meeting the same people in the same pub and then spending all day in bed to recover from a night out they can't remember. Whilst I'm out doing all sorts of activities fulfilling my life with experience yet I'm the boring one.
Whilst I'm on a rant many people I know are growing a trash to raise awareness for male cancers yet half of the also drink and smoke....
it's called being social....
grimey121uk
14-11-12, 06:47 PM
it's called being social....
So you need booze/drugs to talk to people and enjoy yourself and without it your a total recluse?
well if that's what you think the carry on m8.
i don't drink much now and don't partake in drugs any more but i still socialise when i get the chance. so you don't need drugs or drink to be social.
grimey121uk
14-11-12, 06:53 PM
well if that's what you think the carry on m8.
i don't drink much now and don't partake in drugs any more but i still socialise when i get the chance. so you don't need drugs or drink to be social.
Not trying to insult or cause offence!
But your response to my post contradicts your earlier post in the sense you acknowledge that you can be social and enjoy yourself with booze.
My point is that their is a belief that you are boring and have no friends if you don't go out every weekend drinking.
Not trying to insult or cause offence!
But your response to my post contradicts your earlier post in the sense you acknowledge that you can be social and enjoy yourself with booze.
My point is that their is a belief that you are boring and have no friends if you don't go out every weekend drinking.
All depends on age, I am currently 21 and go out near enough every weekend on the lash.
I would give up my bike before I gave up drinking. That is if I didn't use it every day for getting to work.
yes i can but at the same time i don't need to. there is many times i have gone out with the lads to the pub but drank juice while they get totally hammered but i still join in and have fun.
my friends are just that and they are friends because they like my company pizzed or sober it makes no odds to them or me we still get along with each other.
if i'm out and decide i want to get drunk, stoned, trip then i will and that choice is mine as sometimes i enjoy the experience, sometimes not but i made the choice. but as i said i don't have to take substances to enjoy the company of friends. in fact it's sometimes more fun watching them suffer :-)
ahhh but sally your an alcoholic in the making.. lol
I am no different to the rest of my generation, not saying its right, but thats how things are.
I can easy go out for a few sociable pints to watch some football etc, I do have hobbies namely playing football and going to the gym.
I just find it hard staying in at the weekend when the rest of my mates/people my age are heading out for the night.
I personally think its just a phase because we are young, when I get more responsibilities, i.e. long term partner, house, children blah blah I can see things changing.
dizzyblonde
14-11-12, 07:25 PM
Well, at least smoking pot doesn't give you lung cancer, and is far beneficial for many illnesses than their chemically made counterparts.
If you don't believe that its better for your lungs, read this
http://www.ucsf.edu/news/2012/01/11282/marijuana-shown-be-less-damaging-lungs-tobacco
In fact, look at what alcohol does damage to, all it boils down to is stigma. Just because the majority see it as bad, and have it instilled upon them, they see that as fact.
I'm sure since the dawn of time its been used for many things in many cultures, and nobody actually died of using it.
Specialone
14-11-12, 07:34 PM
So what about the tobacco mixed in?
that's for poor people. actually there is a trend towards using other burning methods such as vaporisers and herbal tobacco.
dizzyblonde
14-11-12, 07:37 PM
I said smoking pot....not tobacco ;)
Specialone
14-11-12, 07:56 PM
Actually my friends who are regular users mix tobacco in, it's way too strong without it apparently, I don't know much about it tbh so can't confirm that one way or t'other.
Wideboy
14-11-12, 07:59 PM
pretty much everyone mixes in tobacco
Specialone
14-11-12, 08:02 PM
pretty much everyone mixes in tobacco
I thought so tbh but didnt wanna sound like an idiot, so that theory on it not being damaging to the lungs is utter tosh, you are still inhaling tobacco.
dizzyblonde
14-11-12, 08:09 PM
I thought so tbh but didnt wanna sound like an idiot, so that theory on it not being damaging to the lungs is utter tosh, you are still inhaling tobacco.
You are splitting hairs, I gave you the results of valid research. I understand your point, I'm far from stupid, but research is research, and the topic is about Mary Jane, not tobacco.
Specialone
14-11-12, 08:32 PM
And all research data can be manipulated to read whatever, it's still tobacco.
Anyway, I don't need to read research about smoking and lung cancer, it's something I have experience with, both my parents died from it.
I am no different to the rest of my generation, not saying its right, but thats how things are.
I can easy go out for a few sociable pints to watch some football etc, I do have hobbies namely playing football and going to the gym.
I just find it hard staying in at the weekend when the rest of my mates/people my age are heading out for the night.
I personally think its just a phase because we are young, when I get more responsibilities, i.e. long term partner, house, children blah blah I can see things changing.
You are 100 percent right with that. I was exactly the same as you at 21. Now 11 years on the logistics of getting a few mates together to go out for a few beers is such a hassle it's hardly worth it. All my mates are married, have kids, live miles away and work long hours so if we get together 4 times a year we're doing well.
Not to mention the hangovers now last 3 or 4 days!
Make the most of it while you can.
dizzyblonde
14-11-12, 08:37 PM
Anyway, I don't need to read research about smoking and lung cancer, it's something I have experience with, both my parents died from it.
Neither do I, so did Pegs dad.
pretty much everyone mixes in tobacco
When I smoked it in my youth it was all about the buckets and bottle bags, mainly cause I never worked out how to roll a spliff.
Only reason it's mixed in with tobacco is so it keeps burning.
widepants
14-11-12, 09:14 PM
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1226/54672487.jpg
put a hole where it says here , a pipe in the bottem ,and away u go . No backy needed
Wideboy
14-11-12, 09:29 PM
its believed that the water filters the harshness down? (some how). I've never done a bong or lungs... i take it bottle bags is a northern term for lung? :lol:
not sampled the exotic tobacco for a long time, it was a phase and i grew out of it. Hardly ever smoked it anyway, its now only on the odd occasion. I know plenty of people that do it regularly and yes they are slightly slow and dopey so personally i believe it does mess your head up as well as your life, but these same people smoke the stuff like you would a normal cigarette! so its not surprising. If you drank a pint regularly every half hour or so you would also end up in a bad way so don't really believe its any worse than alcomohol
Personally i think it should be legalised and the "grow your own" idea seems to be a good one.
widepants
14-11-12, 09:31 PM
the water is to take the heat out of it as well , so the smoke can be sucked down in record time
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