View Full Version : Why isn't the SV650 aquatic? Any tips on drying off.
So I finally took a dive off my bike in quite a dramatic style into the sea. My question now is can the bike be saved?
I wont be able to pick it up until the morning to check it 100%. I'm assuming the engine will probably be flooded with sea water as it was down for about a minute.
What will my next steps need to be?
Fallout
16-11-12, 08:02 PM
Step 1 is to definitely give us more details about the accident to appease our curiosity! Not everyday someone crashes into the sea!
Step 1 is to definitely give us more details about the accident to appease our curiosity! Not everyday someone crashes into the sea!
yup that would cheer me up
maviczap
16-11-12, 08:07 PM
Change the oil and air filters for certain. A libral cleaning of all electrical connectors with wd40 and then grease with electrical grease, if foget the correct name. Change brake fluid. Maybe oil the cables. Wheel & suspension bearings might also thank you for stripping them and greasing them.
How did you end up in the sea, a long ride off a short pier. :p
missyburd
16-11-12, 08:08 PM
You might want to get in touch with theboatman off here, he should be able to provide you with some better protective gear for the next time you decide on such escapades :-P
Thunderace
16-11-12, 08:10 PM
WTF? Expand!:shock::shock::shock::shock::shock:
I was overtaking someone, there should have been enough room to overtake safely. He sped up, I sped up as a bus was oncoming. Slight bend in the road, and I had just moved infront of the car I was passing. I panicked hit the breaks and skidded, I couldn't turn so (the bend was the oposite way I had moved to get back in front of the car) opted for the slip way rather than the wall. Took a dive off the edge of the slipway and into the sea.
I hit the kill switch as soon as I came to my sense and knew I was fine.
squirrel_hunter
16-11-12, 08:15 PM
Also make sure that there is no water in the combustion chamber. Take the plugs out and carefully rotate the engine by hand to ensure where is none in there would be what I would do along with things as posted by others. The reason is if there is water in there and the crank rotates to a compression stroke you are going to have a little bit of a problem when the water trapped there does not compress.
squirrel_hunter
16-11-12, 08:17 PM
I was overtaking someone, there should have been enough room to overtake safely. He sped up, I sped up as a bus was oncoming. Slight bend in the road, and I had just moved infront of the car I was passing. I panicked hit the breaks and skidded, I couldn't turn so (the bend was the oposite way I had moved to get back in front of the car) opted for the slip way rather than the wall. Took a dive off the edge of the slipway and into the sea.
Google map of location please?
I think i'm going to need a new gauge cluster as it flooded.
http://maps.google.com/?ll=49.178179,-2.109509&spn=0.002911,0.008256&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=49.178245,-2.109402&panoid=LSGMdgszQ0xCFyPO0qR8xw&cbp=12,13.21,,0,0
Feel free to call me a numpty
maviczap
16-11-12, 08:26 PM
Ha ha ha ha ha
Classic, hope you're ok, no jellyfishstings?
Ha ha, no stings. I'm mainly glad I didnt get any injuries, It would have been a lot worse had I met the granite wall.
cornishsv
16-11-12, 08:38 PM
http://maps.google.com/?ll=49.178179,-2.109509&spn=0.002911,0.008256&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=49.178245,-2.109402&panoid=LSGMdgszQ0xCFyPO0qR8xw&cbp=12,13.21,,0,0
Feel free to call me a numpty
numpty lol atleast it was a nice location to take a swim lol
should have ridden down the slip way, up the otherside and carried on like nothing happened :) unless the tide was in:confused:
Tide was up. Once I hit the slip way I was nevergoing to stop.
I must deserve some kind of award for this level of stupidity.
maviczap
16-11-12, 09:03 PM
I'm sure our sadly missed Orger Reeder would have granted you the Order of the cardboard box.
Dicky Ticker
16-11-12, 09:53 PM
Here was me expecting a long post about water in the front plug and fender extenders.:)
maviczap
16-11-12, 10:01 PM
This isn't the reason why they sell a snorkel for the Sv is it?
Thunderace
16-11-12, 10:47 PM
Absolutely epic, glad your seeing the funny side!;)
widepants
16-11-12, 11:00 PM
looking at your avatar I can see your mistake.A curvy would simply have ordered the water to let it pass
yorkie_chris
16-11-12, 11:33 PM
Firstly LOL that's cheered me right up.
Secondly you're going to have fun with this. You need to dry it out and do a proper job now or you're going to have real problems down the line.
Did it end up in't sea for a while until low water or what?
best crash yet.. well apart from some silly old burger hitting a crash barrier and bike bursting into flames.
Specialone
17-11-12, 07:51 AM
Jeez mate that's a good one, least you're ok anyway.
As others have said, wash the salt water off as much stuff as possible as it will corrode pretty much anything.
Next time you fancy letting your bike swim, do it in a fresh water lake and cover everything in acf50 beforehand :)
Classic this (glad your ok) i would defo take plugs out exhausts off drain fuel, then as said turn the engine over by hand to make sure theres no water left in the engine oh air filter box to.
The only way water could have got in the engine would be air filter and the exhaust so i would have thought this is how you will get it back out.
Good luck..
Specialone
17-11-12, 08:10 AM
Best way to get water out is plug removal and crank engine over, it's then forced out though the plug holes, stating the obvious I know ;)
It will need the oil draining too and all that stuff cleaning.
Firstly LOL that's cheered me right up.
Secondly you're going to have fun with this. You need to dry it out and do a proper job now or you're going to have real problems down the line.
Did it end up in't sea for a while until low water or what?
Thanks for all the tips guys, I'll have z closer look this afternoon when I get the bike recovered.
It was only under for minute, I managed to get it up the slipway.
Bluefish
17-11-12, 09:04 AM
That is bloody brill, at least you are not hurt, just pull the seaweed off remove the mackeral from the exhaust and ride, haha ace ;0)
ChrisCurvyS
17-11-12, 10:03 AM
The one thing no-one's asked - did anyone stop to help you, and if so, did they manage not to laugh?!
Like something out of wacky races - next thing someone on here will crash into an unfortunately-parked lorry full of horse manure...
yorkie_chris
17-11-12, 10:13 AM
Or ride flat out into a cliff that somebody has painted a tunnel onto?
ChrisCurvyS
17-11-12, 10:25 AM
LMAO! There's the two men carrying a pane of glass across the road too...
Mate thats ****ing brilliant
The one thing no-one's asked - did anyone stop to help you, and if so, did they manage not to laugh?!
Like something out of wacky races - next thing someone on here will crash into an unfortunately-parked lorry full of horse manure...
A stranger saw me go in from his house window and came out to help. The guy who I was overtaking and sped up left without stopping. He definitely should have stopped.
Matters not that it was only in the sea for a minute or not, sea water will have got into the frame and any other opening and rot from inside out :(
Strip down as much as you can and see if you can get it steam cleaned, if not lots of fresh water then sprayed with several cans of WD40 ASAP, longer its left the worse it'll be. You may be lucky with the engine and gear box but I suspect it wont just be an oil change. As for the fuel tank that will need cleaning out, carbs and brakes etc may well need stripping and cleaning, don't forget water may well have also got into the wheel bearings as well
yorkie_chris
17-11-12, 11:32 AM
Yeah it's one case I'd say jetwash the bike!
Rather than jet wash it, why not drive it into a freshwater lake ;)
ChrisCurvyS
17-11-12, 02:23 PM
A stranger saw me go in from his house window and came out to help. The guy who I was overtaking and sped up left without stopping. He definitely should have stopped.
Yeah least he could do really but prob worried you might claim against him or kick his ass.
Dunno why people feel somehow threatened by being overtaken and do that - thankfully an SV will get past most cars soon enough. You restricted?
Good jet wash . Id replace the wheel bearings as soon as you get a chance along with all the other good advice.
The loom can hold water in the pvc protective outer so flush it with wd the best you can.
Yeah least he could do really but prob worried you might claim against him or kick his ass.
Dunno why people feel somehow threatened by being overtaken and do that - thankfully an SV will get past most cars soon enough. You restricted?
Would the guy who sped up be considered a party to the accident (i'm not claiming on insurance)?
I'm not restricted, the guy was in a Mercedes estate car so it wasn't slow on the pick up.
Wideboy
17-11-12, 04:53 PM
nope, from and insurance point of view, you overtook in a dangerous location and didn't give yourself enough time to stop. from a normal persons point of view i can sympathise with you as there's plenty of **** heads in cars like that about
Glad your ok and in relatively good spirits about the whole thing, definitely one of the strangest situations of a crash I've herd of :lol:
turn the bike upside down that should get the water out.
maviczap
17-11-12, 06:42 PM
Or get a poly bag, put some rice in, place the bike in and seal the bag. That should absorb some of the moisture
1st things 1st - Numpty! Genuinely laughed out loud.
A friends dad once bought a mint Range Rover for an absolute song, over the next year - everything electrical slowly failed. Investigations revealed sand in places there shouldn't have been!! It had evidently been for a total dip in the sea.
As others have said - wash with plenty of water, I would dry with a leaf blower!!! and airline and then I would blather in ACF50, stripping every electrical connection and spraying inside. WD40 and GT85 have too much solvent, ACF50 leaves a thicker film. It's expensive but worth it.
widepants
17-11-12, 07:55 PM
One idea nobody has yet mentioned yet. Flog it quick.
And before you say it , I know its a rotten trick , but plenty ,even though they wouldnt admit it, would do just that
Bordtea
17-11-12, 11:33 PM
And the crash of the year award goes to...
dizzyblonde
18-11-12, 10:46 AM
So I finally took a dive off my bike in quite a dramatic style into the sea. My question now is can the bike be saved?
I wont be able to pick it up until the morning to check it 100%. I'm assuming the engine will probably be flooded with sea water as it was down for about a minute.
What will my next steps need to be?
I'm surprised nobody has said it yet......but....... With that much sea water, an SV couldn't possibly survive til morning......you will find a pile of dissolved bike with rubber bits in it :smt104
maviczap
18-11-12, 10:49 AM
No, you're thinking of your Raptor ;)
dizzyblonde
18-11-12, 11:50 AM
Nope, its a far more hardy animal. They like going to the seaside.
so ive pulled the plugs and turned the engine over, its now clears the cylinders of water. ive drained the salt water (about a litre) from the oil and im now awaiting an oil filter.
how do i drain the fuel tank? im pretty sure thats contaminated.
thanks for all your tips and comedy relief.
squirrel_hunter
18-11-12, 04:39 PM
how do i drain the fuel tank? im pretty sure thats contaminated.
Take the tank off. Open the fuel cap. Turn it upside down into a suitable receptacle. This will drain most of it. Now with it upside down, remove the fuel pump, turn up the correct way and more will come out. Shake the tank, moving from front to back and even more will come out (there are internal baffles in the tank). Now leave the tank in a well ventilated place to allow it to dry out. As for the pump its a similar story it will retain some fuel, tipping it one way then the other helps get it out though not all of it. Hopefully that will get the most of it out. This is how I have drained tanks myself.
Once it is back together it would be possible to hook it all up and pump through the system some fresh fuel to clear anything left in the pump that shouldn't be. This could be done by essentially tricking the system that it needs to pump in I think by turning the motor over while the fuel hose is not connected to the throttle bodies. But I've not done this with a Pointy only a Curvy to test a fuel pump. Someone else might have a more detailed instruction.
And remember if you remove the pump you will need a new pump sealing o-ring gasket. Yes it might be fine to reuse, but do you really want to risk it for the sake of a couple of quid?
yorkie_chris
18-11-12, 05:17 PM
After you drain the tank with everything removed, I would throw in 1l of meths and shake that about. Will help remove a bit more water.
I would drop that salty oil ASAP. Then I would fill the engine as far as possible with some cheap crap oil from supermarket or whatever, slosh it about a bit (don't run it) then drain that. Fill to proper level with cheap crap oil again and run that for first hour or 2 then swap for proper bike oil.
yorkie_chris
18-11-12, 05:19 PM
I'm surprised nobody has said it yet......but....... With that much sea water, an SV couldn't possibly survive til morning......you will find a pile of dissolved bike with rubber bits in it :smt104
It's not as bad as you'd think, I got splashed a few times when turning up to MYCs in aber, the easiest way to get there was the road around the headland where the sea wall is and there would sometimes be waves breaking over the road and a few inches of water on't road. Didn't harm it that much especially not compared to general winter riding.
Oh nooooo... I just read the OP and died laughing. I think you made the right choice there regarding slipway / wall!!
Apologies, I have nothing useful to add here. Nothing at all. But all the best sorting out the bike! Thanks for making my day :)
dizzyblonde
18-11-12, 05:53 PM
It's not as bad as you'd think, I got splashed a few times when turning up to MYCs in aber, the easiest way to get there was the road around the headland where the sea wall is and there would sometimes be waves breaking over the road and a few inches of water on't road. Didn't harm it that much especially not compared to general winter riding.
It was a joke.....
Of course I know they aren't as susceptible to salt as to disappear overnight. :rolleyes:
widepants
18-11-12, 07:15 PM
It was a joke.....
Of course I know they aren't like Josh's women to disappear overnight. :rolleyes:
corrected
How do I got about disconnecting the tank? Do I unplug the fuel line at the connector to the pump?
missyburd
03-12-12, 04:18 PM
Saw this fella and thought of you, on the plus side least he hasn't got his bike wet...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=454457384618317&set=vb.177889872275071&type=2&theater
Biker Biggles
03-12-12, 06:05 PM
"He" is also known as Adolf
Saw this fella and thought of you, on the plus side least he hasn't got his bike wet...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=454457384618317&set=vb.177889872275071&type=2&theater
Oh my god!!!
Think his forks might be out a touch now.
Hi guys, just a little update and another question.
I've changed the filter & oil, and drained and filled the tank. When I turn on the ignition and turn off the kill switch I get a click and a slight pump noise but not the usual whine. I was getting the whining sound for the first few times I did this but haven't heard it since.
Anyone have a clue what could be potentially wrong with it now?
(my gauges are dead so I cant read any fault codes)
yorkie_chris
11-12-12, 09:25 AM
Hmmm, options,
Flat battery, knackered fuel pump relay, knackered pump, wiring fault, ECU fault.
Hmmm, options,
Flat battery, knackered fuel pump relay, knackered pump, wiring fault, ECU fault.
Ok, I just had another go and I think I was just being stupid and had a low fuel level.
I've got my battery on charge and will have a go at starting the engine later. I don't really have my hopes up about this thing starting again.
maviczap
11-12-12, 12:17 PM
At least it wasn't like this one
If its a Hitler post, den entschuldigen
dtXFThyr764
Specialone
11-12-12, 12:22 PM
Mav, I think if I see that video any more my head will explode, one forum I'm on, 7 different people have posted it, I think it's 4 on here lol
maviczap
11-12-12, 12:25 PM
Ha Ha Ha, I knew it
k1ngy SV
11-12-12, 01:27 PM
At least it wasn't like this one
If its a Hitler post, den entschuldigen
dtXFThyr764
HAHAHAahahaha:smt040
Owenski
11-12-12, 01:29 PM
Could be worse could have been caught on camera like this chap.
dtXFThyr764
missyburd
11-12-12, 01:51 PM
Saw this fella and thought of you, on the plus side least he hasn't got his bike wet...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=454457384618317&set=vb.177889872275071&type=2&theater
or even a repost in the same thread Maviczap :lol: I'm not sure anyone's done that before...:p
maviczap
11-12-12, 01:54 PM
or even a repost in the same thread Maviczap :lol: I'm not sure anyone's done that before...:p
In my defence I'm I'll :p
So I got around the fuel pump issue and I can see fuel being sprayed into the throttle bodies, but now the engine wont start. I pulled the rear plug and found it's not giving a spark (tested on a freshly charged battery).
The plug looks fine externally. (tested the plugs, they are fine. Im justnot getting a spark front or rear now.
I may have gotten a single spark this morning (it looked like it backfired up the throttle body :s)
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