Jack up plates - effects?

[disco2]

Hi all im a tall fella 6 foot 4 so I find the sv a wee bit low found some jack up bars on flea bay to lift the rear end by 30mm.
Have you fitted these?
Will they change the way the bike rides for the worse?
Is there anything I should look out for doing this mod?
I don't want to buy and fit them if they will be taken back off.
Many thanks for any replys.

[Wildkid]

Will change the geometry of the bike, raising the rear end will make it tip in quicker.

Have also heard that it causes unwanted stress on the shock and can cause the rear wheel to skip more than usual.

[unclepoo]

I have these jack up bars, or "dog bones" as they get called, mine is a 25mm lift, but I`m not as tall or poss as heavy as you, so the stance of the bike will be similar when sat on the seat.....I wanted the handling to quicken up a little...if you go any more than 25-30mm you may find the bike will fall into slow corners.

[disco2]

Its the 30mm I will be getting is there any ill effects from doing this mod?
Are they as easy to fit as they look?

[mikerj]

As long as you have some way of supporting the bike (e.g. ABBA stand) and the bolts aren't seized then it's a pretty easy job. Obvioulsy it's well worth stripping the linkages down, cleaning and re-greasing while you are doing this.

[Runako]

There are a few threads on here about raising the rear. I believe there is a point past which the handling becomes twitchy. It also depends on the rear shock you're using. If you have the OEM shock another (some would say better) solution is to get a high rated rear shock such as a ZX6 which is a taller shock but is probably better sprung for you.

[21QUEST]

Personally, I don't like them.

Bear in mind, raising the rear will not change the relationship of/distance of seat to foot peg.
Sure, it'd give an increase in seat height relative to the ground but it do nothing improve comfort(if that's the issue here) as stated above, once you are on the move


It'd shorten the wheel base, reduce trail etc but I've never riden a bike with a 30mm plus increase in ride height that actually felt nice. Some folks even raise the rear and drop the front as much as they can get away with, as well.

I'm seen one or two people tuck the front of the 'fast turning' SV and still wondered what the heck is happened...of course, may or may not have been related.

That said, the first question I ask anyone that asks about dogbones/wanting to raise the rear is "what exactly is the bike doing/not doing that makes you think, you might need to raise/drop the front" .

If the answer is "I don't really have an issue but..." then it's more than likely, the bike geometry is just fine for you riding style ;).

In my case, I prefer what a geometry that is as 'neutral' as can be. It's not as if the SV is an oil tanker....no popeye arms needed :p .
I've not really had any problems going round corners or holding a line, without rider error being at fault Lol

Dog bones do not give you the chance to really 'fine tune' unless you have a selection of dogbones to try out.

You might find the link below a good read
http://www.promecha.com.au/leverage_linkages.htm#

[disco2]

Thanks for that in-depth reply its much appreciated, the only issue I have is my height the bike is more than fine I just think a taller seat height would be better for me.

I must admit I did not realise the seat height to footpeg distance would not change only the height from seat to floor so I may be fitting them and then unfitting them lol.
I have no issues with how the bike handles all thou I may have soon a lol

[Runako]

In that case, adjustable rearsets is a better bet. Even a few inches makes a world of difference for us taller riders

[650]

Anyone got any pictures of SV's with the tail end raised via this method?

[mikerj]

I must admit I did not realise the seat height to footpeg distance would not change only the height from seat to floor

Both pegs and seat are solidly bolted to the bikes frame - dogbones (or longer shock) can not magicaly stretch the frame!

Have a search for Buell pegs on this forum. These can be fitted in place of the standard SV pegs (with a small amount of modification) and will drop the peg position down.

[unclepoo]

I don`t think you would see a difference in a photo, but I`ve ridden my sv with 25mm lowered links, standard links and 25mm raised links....and there is a world of difference in the way the the bike turns in to corners, mine is now set up with the 25mm raised links and it changes direction very much easier without any instability at speed.

[Runako]

I don`t think you would see a difference in a photo, but I`ve ridden my sv with 25mm lowered links, standard links and 25mm raised links....and there is a world of difference in the way the the bike turns in to corners, mine is now set up with the 25mm raised links and it changes direction very much easier without any instability at speed.

I think the OP already said he's happy with the handling. Is looking more for comfort.