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Mr Speirs
30-01-13, 12:31 PM
Anyone looking forward to it?
I am!!
Especially this year as I will be going to watch England v Scotland at Twickenham this saturday!
As a scot I am fully prepared for the wooden spoon and I think England will take the competition this year.
Cymraeg_Atodeg
30-01-13, 12:42 PM
I am looking forward to it, do every year.
But, my money this year is on Ireland, but, if they collapse again, it'll be France, just not a grand slam
savage86
30-01-13, 01:58 PM
My predictions.
1. Ireland
2. England
3. France
4. Italy
5. Wales
6. Scotland
Can really see the Italians causing a surprise or two. Wales are out of all sorts at the minute. Scotland just can't do the basics at the moment and have took a few steps back last year.
And i think it really depends on what Ireland, England and France teams show up to determine the top three.
Com on Ireland!
Cymraeg_Atodeg
30-01-13, 02:01 PM
Wales have no healthy players left
Fixed that for you
andrewsmith
30-01-13, 02:20 PM
Won't see much of it (I refuse to pay for Sky), but I'd say it'll be
1. Ireland
2. France
3. England
4. Wales, Italy, Scotland
It could be any one TBH for the spoon
chris8886
30-01-13, 02:38 PM
I am looking forward to it, do every year.
But, my money this year is on Ireland, but, if they collapse again, it'll be France, just not a grand slam
hell yes am i looking forward to it! tis one of the highlights of the year for me every year!
i think it'll be the irish winning it this year, but not with a grand slam, but i reckon england could well push them all the way. i just don't think the french have much at the moment and it'll probably be scotland for the wooden spoon as i think the italians have made some fairly big steps these last couple of years. i reckon they could even turn wales over (which would delight me i'm afraid!).
Cymraeg_Atodeg
30-01-13, 02:42 PM
hell yes am i looking forward to it! tis one of the highlights of the year for me every year!
i think it'll be the irish winning it this year, but not with a grand slam, but i reckon england could well push them all the way. i just don't think the french have much at the moment and it'll probably be scotland for the wooden spoon as i think the italians have made some fairly big steps these last couple of years. i reckon they could even turn wales over (which would delight me i'm afraid!).
Wouldn't be the first time and we are away this year too
Won't see much of it (I refuse to pay for Sky), but I'd say it'll be
1. Ireland
2. France
3. England
4. Wales, Italy, Scotland
It could be any one TBH for the spoon
Can't you just watch it on BBC like I am gonna do?
andrewsmith
30-01-13, 02:49 PM
Most the england games are on Sky again
Cymraeg_Atodeg
30-01-13, 02:57 PM
Most the england games are on Sky again
BBC say they are all on BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/16658830
andrewsmith
30-01-13, 03:55 PM
BBC say they are all on BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/16658830
Sh!t my liver is going to take a beating
chris8886
30-01-13, 04:00 PM
Sh!t my liver is going to take a beating
likewise! lol
Cymraeg_Atodeg
30-01-13, 04:10 PM
Sh!t my liver is going to take a beating
likewise! lol
Isn't that what the six nations is for?
chris8886
30-01-13, 04:14 PM
Isn't that what the six nations is for?
surely you mean any rugby match that needs watching!
Cymraeg_Atodeg
30-01-13, 05:10 PM
surely you mean any rugby match that needs watching!
Perhaps, but, the Six Nations especially
You're all wrong.
England will win it but they'll lose 1 possibly two matches. France or Ireland for Second before Wales BUT, all three to end up with the same number of wins. Oh and Scotland will win a match so Italy for the Spoon or possibly a shock win? It's gonna be tighter than you think this year. That's my Prediction.
I think everyone is writing off Wales because of the poor performances in the autumn internationals and relatively weak regional teams.
Whilst I don't think Wales will retain the Grand Slam, I also don't think that they will sink to the Wooden Spoon in one season. However, 3 away games out of 5 will be tough (Ireland and England at home 1st and 5th matches).
France
Wales
England
Ireland
Italy
Scotland
carelesschucca
30-01-13, 08:56 PM
Sh!t my liver is going to take a beating
It takes the the 6 nations for you to do that?
Yay for Scotlands Rugby Team, nearly as good as our football squad. :)
unclepoo
30-01-13, 09:29 PM
I really hope England play as well as they can do...Lancaster seems to be able to pick the right players, then let them play there own game....not over coach them into playing a one dimension game....i.e, when things don`t go to plan, they don`t know what to do...but England are playing the best I`ve seen them play for a long time. France could throw a spanner in the works ...just depends witch France team turn up on the day...usually against England they`re really up for it and throw the ball about, but against lesser teams france can be poor and give away penalties....but just scrape a win.
chris8886
30-01-13, 10:09 PM
I think everyone is writing off Wales because of the poor performances in the autumn internationals and relatively weak regional teams.
Whilst I don't think Wales will retain the Grand Slam, I also don't think that they will sink to the Wooden Spoon in one season. However, 3 away games out of 5 will be tough (Ireland and England at home 1st and 5th matches).
France
Wales
England
Ireland
Italy
Scotland
that's because they're not the best of teams at the moment.
It takes the the 6 nations for you to do that?
Yay for Scotlands Rugby Team, nearly as good as our football squad. :)
and they've got a cracking player as their captain now too in kelly brown.
I really hope England play as well as they can do...Lancaster seems to be able to pick the right players, then let them play there own game....not over coach them into playing a one dimension game....i.e, when things don`t go to plan, they don`t know what to do...but England are playing the best I`ve seen them play for a long time. France could throw a spanner in the works ...just depends witch France team turn up on the day...usually against England they`re really up for it and throw the ball about, but against lesser teams france can be poor and give away penalties....but just scrape a win.
quite agree with this, i really do like lancaster and what he's done with the team so far, bring on the world cup i say so we can see what we can do.
unclepoo
31-01-13, 07:45 PM
I just wish stuart lancaster would sign shaun edwards as there defence coach...he`s done wonders at wasps and wales and has real grit....not "all old school tie" like a lot of the rugby union set-up.
chris8886
31-01-13, 09:18 PM
I just wish stuart lancaster would sign shaun edwards as there defence coach...he`s done wonders at wasps and wales and has real grit....not "all old school tie" like a lot of the rugby union set-up.
let him come to the england set up after wasps have escaped from their relegation battle (not that i'm a wasps supporter might i add!)
unclepoo
31-01-13, 11:38 PM
He`s not at wasps now..left in 2011, gatland and edwards made wasps a formidable side between 2003 and 2007 and have transformed wales...who could have done better in the last world cup but for the referee.
chris8886
01-02-13, 10:25 AM
He`s not at wasps now..left in 2011, gatland and edwards made wasps a formidable side between 2003 and 2007 and have transformed wales...who could have done better in the last world cup but for the referee.
oh right, oops! that tackle by warburton or whoever it was i agree didn't deserve to be sent off for it, but sin bin, most certainly!!
unclepoo
02-02-13, 01:30 PM
wales were playing france with a ref that is half french....so no suprise wales got there captain sent off (warburton).....anyway, 1st match starts now......ooooooh
I cant wait, attending England v Italy on 10th March.
anyone doing the Scrum fantasy league?
Ahem, I believe I called that result. Told you, this Six Nations will be tight. Wales will come good and the Irish will lose. No Grand Slam this year, guaranteed.
unclepoo
03-02-13, 09:58 PM
Everyone can beat everyone else in this years 6 nations....didn`t Italy do well....and even Scotland played well.
BanannaMan
04-02-13, 02:15 AM
Well despite a comeback in the second half, was not enough for Wales. :(
How does a team fall so quickly from grand slam winners to 8 straight losses?
Congrats to England now in the top spot.
Cymraeg_Atodeg
04-02-13, 08:20 AM
Well despite a comeback in the second half, was not enough for Wales. :(
How does a team fall so quickly from grand slam winners to 8 straight losses?
Congrats to England now in the top spot.
Unfortunately, at the moment, the WRU doesn't have many healthy players left. We were never the best on depth, but, we are pretty screwed at the moment
You're all wrong.
England will win it but they'll lose 1 possibly two matches. France or Ireland for Second before Wales BUT, all three to end up with the same number of wins. Oh and Scotland will win a match so Italy for the Spoon or possibly a shock win? It's gonna be tighter than you think this year. That's my Prediction.
Who said this then? ;)
Cymraeg_Atodeg
09-02-13, 06:53 PM
Shows what you know! lol
Shows what you know! lol
Its all coming true, you'll see. Italy got the shock win against FR but will end up bottom. Scotland did get a win as predicted. Wales have made a start but the big match is tomorrow. England might well lose, but I expect them to win. I back France to beat the Irish though. Either way ever team will lose a match this year. Its already tight as the table testifies.
Cymraeg_Atodeg
09-02-13, 09:51 PM
I am backing Ireland for this year, but, no-one will get the Grandslam, so, I see england winning tomorrow, but, they lose to France or us
Mr Speirs
10-02-13, 11:09 AM
Its all coming true, you'll see. Italy got the shock win against FR but will end up bottom. Scotland did get a win as predicted. Wales have made a start but the big match is tomorrow. England might well lose, but I expect them to win. I back France to beat the Irish though. Either way ever team will lose a match this year. Its already tight as the table testifies.
You still think France are going to come Second?
You still think France are going to come Second?
... Or Ireland (a bit of 'hedging' there ;))
unclepoo
10-02-13, 02:47 PM
Wales aren`t the side they used to be cos gatland isnt there anymore....is howley there head coach now...they`re just not as aggressive they used to be...but they`re getting back there form.
Wales aren`t the side they used to be cos gatland isnt there anymore....is howley there head coach now...they`re just not as aggressive they used to be...but they`re getting back there form.
Can't agree. Gatland's influence is still there, but the form is totally down to the players making mistakes and not executing. They've lost 5 or 6 games by a try or less. Anyone who's watched em play for a while knows they have these spells of playing brilliantly and then rubbish for a while. But this is too easy an analysis. Poor results down to a couple of reasons IMO.
1. The players (individually) were not on form / coming back from injury;
2. The individual mistakes which have always blighted Wales' game have hurt them more recently because its led to them conceding early tries/scores and always playing catch up.
Yesterday is a great example. Their defence was tight, they made 90%+ tackle completion and, most importantly, scored first so were never playing catch up.
Wales are like France in that when they play with confidence they can be unbeatable. The early penalties settled them down and the try near the end sealed it. They never looked in danger of conceding a try all day and, in fact, this is what there Gland Slam successes have been based on.
To win against England, they're gonna need to start strong and play consistently. The talent, flair and form will follow. Concede early and they'll lose again.
unclepoo
10-02-13, 06:32 PM
2nd half estp I thought Wales played very well...much more like they can play.
Mr Speirs
10-02-13, 06:37 PM
2nd half estp I thought Wales played very well...much more like they can play.
Really? I thought both teams executed one of the poorest displays of Rugby in a long time. Neither side were playing winning rugby. They both played not losing rugby and it was rubbish. Wales came out the winners but it was no way near international quality rugby from either side at any point in that game.
unclepoo
10-02-13, 09:42 PM
true, it wasn`t a great game....but Wales could only play what was infront of them.
What did I say! Who would have thought Ireland would have ended with the Wooden Spoon. Might as well just give me all your money for next year and I'll make you all millionaires at the bookies. Ok, not everything was right but this is indeed one of the closest 6 Nations ever, with a massive improvement from Italy and France in transition. As for Wales, people listened to the hype rather than seeing what was going on. Wales were never that bad and as always there is a fine margin between a poor Wales and a brilliant Wales. Very exciting finale!
Littlepeahead
16-03-13, 06:45 PM
I know nothing about rugby but I'm at a birthday party of a Welsh friend. She's a bit excited. And smug.
Matt-EUC
16-03-13, 06:45 PM
Not ****ing happy!! I wonder how much Wales paid the referee!
andrewsmith
16-03-13, 06:54 PM
Not ****ing happy!! I wonder how much Wales paid the referee!
70 sheep!
sent from a weapon of mass distraction
Not ****ing happy!! I wonder how much Wales paid the referee!
Lancaster didn't complain. He said Wales outclassed England. Were we watching the same game?
Mr Speirs
16-03-13, 08:09 PM
What did I say! Who would have thought Ireland would have ended with the Wooden Spoon. Might as well just give me all your money for next year and I'll make you all millionaires at the bookies. Ok, not everything was right but this is indeed one of the closest 6 Nations ever, with a massive improvement from Italy and France in transition. As for Wales, people listened to the hype rather than seeing what was going on. Wales were never that bad and as always there is a fine margin between a poor Wales and a brilliant Wales. Very exciting finale!
Ireland only get the wooden spoon if Scotland lose to France.
I'm so happy Scotland finished 3rd! Had an awesome 6 nations also the games against Ireland and Wales weren't particularly a great display of rugby.
Ireland only get the wooden spoon if Scotland lose to France.
I'm so happy Scotland finished 3rd! Had an awesome 6 nations also the games against Ireland and Wales weren't particularly a great display of rugby.
So as I said then, Ireland with the Wood. I agree Scotland have improved but France actually have something to play for. Losing would be their worst 6 Nations performance since its inception. Although its often the case that Paris can be as negative for France as it is positive, they're at home and I think they'll win. So I'm sticking with my prediction.
Personally, I loved this tournament. Full of blood and guts, tactics and closer matches. People said Scotland/Wales was a poor match. I totally disagree. It was a tough, tight affair full of emotion and good defence.
The 1st half of the Wales/England match was tremendous, yet it was only 9-3. That ankle tap by Mike Brown was one of the best tackles I've witnessed, given its context. Watching teams destroy their opponents in the scrum ... that's grown man Rugby and is tactically exciting as far as I'm concerned.
Mr Speirs
16-03-13, 08:37 PM
I agree! The Wales England match was easily the best of the tournament! Open and full of hopeful and optimistic play. It was brilliant.
Mr Speirs
16-03-13, 09:52 PM
France stay at the bottom for the wooden spoon.
If only Scotland will have more confidence and keep the ball in hand. Laidlaw is becoming a total pain in the ****, kicking from ruck at every opportunity. Dan Parks all over again!!
Matt-EUC
16-03-13, 11:10 PM
If we were watching the same game then you will have seen many many penalties England should have been awarded and many more that Wales shouldn't have. The referee was clearly heavily biased. A quote from one of the commentators "the referee seems to have taken it upon himself to penalise England heavily"
If we were watching the same game then you will have seen many many penalties England should have been awarded and many more that Wales shouldn't have. The referee was clearly heavily biased. A quote from one of the commentators "the referee seems to have taken it upon himself to penalise England heavily"
Garbage! Be specific. I watched that game and the referee clearly gave instructions before calling a penalty. I saw one harsh decision on Robshaw, when an England player was called for not rolling away.
England got battered in the scrum from start to finish. They gave away penalty after penalty, including one stupid penalty for not putting in quick enough (how many times have teams got away with that?).
I even remembered Wales got called for a high tackle that I thought was harsh. My mate even complained that he was giving too much decisions to England and should have gone to Specsavers! (He was equally wrong).
Even if there were some marginal calls - and I don't believe they were - such a beating had to be down to other reasons. What were they you ask?
1st half - very close. England didn't kick their penalties. Wales kicked all theirs. Wales dominated possession. England's kicking wasn't as accurate or effective. Barely ran with the ball (didn't really have much opportunity). Yet the score could have been 6-6 or 9-6.
Second half - Wales had momentum from the first half and England gave away 2 silly penalties. So instead of 6-6, the score was 15-3. Still not that much in it, except Wales made less mistakes - e.g. Tuilagi's knock on, England's scrum again, England kicking to touch on the full!
The crucial moment was the try. What can you say about that? It was coming and yet it was a very good try. Brown could be criticised for the handoff but was left exposed by his teammates. Clearly that had nothing to do with the referee.
The second try killed the game and even with the replacements, Wales dominated the scrum and breakdown.
So please tell me where the ref caused England to lose.
France stay at the bottom for the wooden spoon.
If only Scotland will have more confidence and keep the ball in hand. Laidlaw is becoming a total pain in the ****, kicking from ruck at every opportunity. Dan Parks all over again!!
I'm afraid to say I told you so my friend. As improved as Scotland were, that has been their Achilles Heel for a long time. Their decision making at crucial times - even under Andy Robinson when actually they weren't playing that bad but weren't getting the results - let them down badly.
But the result and standings prove the point that this has still been the closest six nations for some time in terms of competitiveness and level of play in all the matches.
I think this is a good thing for the Lions - although I'm not expecting a huge amount of controversy in Gatlands selections. The debate will go on for some time.
BanannaMan
18-03-13, 04:51 AM
If we were watching the same game then you will have seen many many penalties England should have been awarded and many more that Wales shouldn't have. The referee was clearly heavily biased. A quote from one of the commentators "the referee seems to have taken it upon himself to penalise England heavily"
It was a 30-3 game. Can't blame all of that on a few bad calls.
It was however a close season.
Down to 1 game and Wales needing to win by eight points.
Great stuff!
England nearly had it, but again in 2013:
http://www.rbs6nations.com/images/news/walescelebrate13SB.jpg
Cymraeg_Atodeg
18-03-13, 07:56 AM
Overall, I am happy with this year's six nations :-D
BanannaMan
19-03-13, 03:59 AM
Overall, I am happy with this year's six nations :-D
+1 :thumbsup:
Luckypants
19-03-13, 11:27 AM
The Wales - England match was fantastic and I'm very happy to say I WAS THERE!! :D
I have since watched the game back from the live recording and still think it was a well reff'd game. Brian Moore (himself an awesome scrummager in his day) made no complaints about the penalties, except to say that England were naive and dull witted to not to adapt to what the referee was pinging them for. I don't think the referee was biased and to say so is just sour grapes in my opinion.
just for fun, this was nicked off another orger's Facebook page...
Spot the Welshman!
http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/60402_10200821629850101_1030437593_n.jpg
saucysaunders
19-03-13, 12:44 PM
It was a disgrace of a game to watch as an England supporter.
So many missed tackles, the back line never really got out of bed to play I don't think.
The ref was alright, a bit harsh at times but that's probably just because he was getting annoyed with people not listening to him. Wasn't biased though, England just played badly, and Wales played fantastically!
Oh well, next time.
For Wales though it would've been a fantastic game :)
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