In your opinion are SVs slow?

[disco2]

As the title says really was reading another thread and the reply's started me wondering are they a slow bike..

I know its slower than an r1 or the like, but how does the 650 compare to other 600s???

Mines restricted at the moment so its slow but legal :p

[jambo]

Yes.

Thankfully that's all the performance anxiety dealt with :-)

Jambo
Sent from my thingie

[Spank86]

Unrestricted it's not on a par with a 600sports IMHO.

Sometimes I think certain of them are restricted when they aren't.

But it's all about the corners anyway.

[johnnyrod]

To be honest on the road it's much of a muchness, if you bang the throttle open it tears off. If you're talking about the track where you can really go fast, then yes, once you're over 100 or so, the SV is starting to struggle. That's why you need to use its other advantages of traction and torque to gain some yards out of bends before the screaming top end of the 600/4 boys pulls you back in half way down the straights. It's opening a can of worms with that sort of conversation though...

[disco2]

Great so not only did I buy a girls bike but its a slow girls bike :D:D:D:D

[Fallout]

The BHP figures tell the story. Most 600 sport bikes like the gixxer are around 100bhp. The SV is around 70. They both weigh pretty much the same, so many 600s have almost an extra 50% power to play with.

As Spanky said though, doesn't make a whole lot of difference on decent twisties. :) I remember chasing Hong through the Welsh mountains and he only held me up on a handful of straight sections. His torque meant he always had comparable acceleration out of most corners unless I was exiting at 9k+ RPM, and that's an SV vs a 750 gixxer.

[Spank86]

Great so not only did I buy a girls bike but its a slow girls bike :D:D:D:D

Then the only thing to do is make sure you don't ride it like a girl.

If you go out and Embarrass a few super sports you won't get much stick.

Most people's rides are limited more by their ability than the bikes (myself included).

[granty92]

Slow but still good fun :) and twins sounds better IMO

[yorkie_chris]

Most people's rides are limited more by their ability than the bikes (myself included).

+1

[Fallout]

Most people's rides are limited more by their ability than the bikes (myself included).

Although Spank on the S4 takes some catching. I can often be seen reading a magazine when following you on the Ace.

[granty92]

Slow but still good fun :) and twins sounds better IMO

[Pricey12]

Most people's rides are limited more by their ability than the bikes.

This ^^

[a_monkey_hint]

My friend has a GS500, I have an SV650 yet I can't keep up on the twisties so can vouch that ability is much more important than power.

[granty92]

My friend has a GS500, I have an SV650 yet I can't keep up on the twisties so can vouch that ability is much more important than power.
+1 on the ability over power bit

[Blueperson]

Slower than my GSX1100, but on my local South Devon roads, tight and twisty with lots of sudden overtaking opportunities, the SV is so much more fun. I take the long way home far more often on the SV than on the big heavy one. You can use all the power on the SV without it trying to kill you too, which is a bonus.

+1 ability over power

[andrewsmith]

Most people's rides are limited more by their ability than the bikes (myself included).

This
Yes the SV is a girls bike (supposedly), and its low powered, but I've kept up with the IL4's where it matters (the bends) and have annoyed the superbikes around Alston (Decended the East of the Hartside with 4 1000's unable to keep up until the straights)

If you can (or claim to in most cases) get the best out of Supersport or Superbike on the UK roads, you should be competing on the roads or circuits where road fast is back group

[disco2]

Most people's rides are limited more by their ability than the bikes (myself included).[/QUOTE]

I would like to say at this point im pretty sure I have the slowest sv on this forum :king: of slow....

[Rokerman]

I have had mine about a year and I have got used to the power.
Is it slow? No not at all and the comment about 100mph is spot on.

Is it very fast? Not at all.

[Biker Biggles]

Go on utube and search for Suzuki sv 650 silverstone and watch how slow it is against a gixer.
The rider will be someone called Blue SV who will demonstrate that power isnt everything.

[Kenzie]

As they say in the camera world, it's not the size of your lens but how you use it!

Vid for you

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[Biker Biggles]

Yup.Thats the one.Theres a few more by Blue on there as well.Well worth a look.

[Specialone]

0-60 they aren't slow, there won't be much difference between a lot of bikes, where they run out of power is 60-120 onwards, private runway obviously, that's where your sports bikes or litre bikes will keep on going.

[DJ123]

IMO one of the best 'features' about the SV is the fact you're never going silly fast (130mph max), and you don't have to ride at silly speeds for it to be fun. It's a very capable bike overall and is easy to ride. I'm on my 4th! I love them for the bags of character, cheapness/easiness of maintaining them & how they ride.

[dirtydog]

IMO one of the best 'features' about the SV is the fact you're never going silly fast (130mph max), and you don't have to ride at silly speeds for it to be fun. It's a very capable bike overall and is easy to ride. I'm on my 4th! I love them for the bags of character, cheapness/easiness of maintaining them & how they ride.

I'm on my 5th SV now, I sold one and bought a Daytona 955 which is a fantastic bike and pretty fast. Within a few months I'd bought another SV. Then I sold both and moved on to a Benelli Tornado, again an amazing bike and stupidly fast. After a year I was bored of going mach 3 everywhere.

Now I have the choice between the SV and a raptor 1000, SV is the 1st choice

[otaylor38]

Depends what you class as slow I guess.

It's slow compared to an s1000rr or a zzr1400, but it's fast compared to a large majority of the vehicles you come across on the road.

I'm still on 33bhp and it'll still leave almost all the cars I come across at the traffic lights

[fizzwheel]

Depends

Compared to my 125 it felt like a rocket ship
Compared to my GSXR it feels slow, wheezy and asthmatic, when you open the throttle it doesnt accelerate, it just makes a louder noise.

Its unfair to compare it to SS600's and the like. Put the same ride on the SV and time them over a lap or a set of twisties and then do it again on a SS600 I'm pretty confident they'd be quicker on the SS600

What takes the time though is learning to ride what you've got to get the most out of it.

Also different people want different things, different challenges from a bike.

I used to pass plenty of people on better machinery on my SV, the same still happens on my GSXR. I've been on rideouts and been outpaced by people on SV's when on my GSXR.

People who call it slow and a girls bike have never ridden one and dont know what they are talking about.

I know I am probably being controversial here to some of you. But also people who claim it's faster than a well ridden SS600 or bigger, with respect also dont know what they are talking about.

[Jayneflakes]

Surely it is as fast as you want it to go? It is after all a mid price motorbike, but with the character and soul of a beloved machine. :D

[dizzyblonde]

All bikes do 30 yes?

Most bikes do 70 yes?

So, in that respect its not slow.
Compare it to my VRaptor 1000, opposite to DD, I prefer the Rap. It's easier to ride for me.
Compare its to the hubbys zzr1400.........well duuuuuhhhh, what a silly comparison. That thing doesn't allow you to blink before its a dot on the horizon! Feels slow when you ride it though, until you look down and see you aren't doing the speed you thought you were.

Imo.....the sv isn't slow. Just a small vtwin, that I need to work s bit more.

[yorkie_chris]

I would easily pass GSXRs, busas, 'blades etc on my CG125


(in traffic. Because they were all gay)

[Jayneflakes]

(in traffic. Because they were all gay)

What has that got to do with it? I was a big gayer when on (or off come to that) my CG125 and I kept blasting past "straight" people on their bigger bikes. :D

I think that the actual reason for this though is not the sexuality of the riders of those bigger bikes, but the fact that the CG125 is probably the fastest and most capable motorcycle in the known universe! As I understand it, even the Taliban have enjoyed using the CG125 and they are well known for their complete lack of gayness. From this I conclude that straight people are not to be trusted because of their links to the Taliban! :smt042
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4ify7vDXrDs/TIPcB-8bzAI/AAAAAAAAGgc/S_WMNzhPBJ0/s640/guns_and_motorcycles_afghan_youth.JPG






*Runs away sniggering* :smt042

[Dave_es94]

SV's are brilliant on the twisties, was keeping up with my mate on his zx9r, he couldnt lay much power down, Sv's are fast enough for the road

[yorkie_chris]

What has that got to do with it? I was a big gayer when on (or off come to that) my CG125 and I kept blasting past "straight" people on their bigger bikes. :D

I think that the actual reason for this though is not the sexuality of the riders of those bigger bikes, but the fact that the CG125 is probably the fastest and most capable motorcycle in the known universe! As I understand it, even the Taliban have enjoyed using the CG125 and they are well known for their complete lack of gayness. From this I conclude that straight people are not to be trusted because of their links to the Taliban! :smt042

*Runs away sniggering* :smt042

:smt082

The taliban must be right faggots, they don't like looking at women or eating bacon sandwiches :-P

[Spank86]

What has that got to do with it? I was a big gayer when on (or off come to that) my CG125 and I kept blasting past "straight" people on their bigger bikes. :D

Perhaps going by an older definition he meant that they were "given to social pleasures", as a certain dictionary once put it. In which case it must have been easy to pass them as they stopped off for carnal activities.

[widepants]

What has that got to do with it? I was a big gayer when on (or off come to that) my CG125 and I kept blasting past "straight" people on their bigger bikes. :D

Oi woman . I bought your 125 and Im not a ghayer.As for passing mahosive bikes!!!!!! Passed loads when they had to stop to fill with fuel AGAIN

[Jayneflakes]

:smt082

The taliban must be right faggots, they don't like looking at women or eating bacon sandwiches :-P

They do like stoning homosexuals though, maybe they are covering up for something. Those who protest most loudly often have something to hide! \\:D/

In which case it must have been easy to pass them as they stopped off for carnal activities.

Hmm, maybe they were just taking precautions, you know, riding safe! :safe:

This in no way detracts from the fact that the Honda CG125 is a missile when in the right hands. I miss mine, it was such silly fun and even managed rough rides up the woods. If I could, I would buy another, paint it mat black, add some old army ammo boxes, fit it with knobbly tyres and raise the exhaust clear of the rocks I would then ride it over. :smt042

[joshwalker094]

They do like stoning homosexuals though, maybe they are covering up for something. Those who protest most loudly often have something to hide! \\:D/



Hmm, maybe they were just taking precautions, you know, riding safe! :safe:

This in no way detracts from the fact that the Honda CG125 is a missile when in the right hands. I miss mine, it was such silly fun and even managed rough rides up the woods. If I could, I would buy another, paint it mat black, add some old army ammo boxes, fit it with knobbly tyres and raise the exhaust clear of the rocks I would then ride it over. :smt042

You never fail to make me laugh.

I loved my cg125, maybe not the speed, but it was realiable and cheap. My first geared bike, had michilin pilots sport tyres on it, and wow they handled well around the twists and bends of the cat and fiddle

[Fordward]

compared to cars its fast

compared to other 600cc commuter/street bikes its on a par, perhaps in the real world (not on paper) it's one of the quicker ones because the way it delivers the power is more usable

compared to 600cc sports bikes it's slow, but only when you give the sports bike revs

compared to a litre bike, its just slow

[johnnyrod]

It's opening a can of worms with that sort of conversation though...

Told you...

[disco2]

Told you...
errrm I think a yes or a no would have done to be honest but its been a interesting read:-D

[ChrisCTK]

Most of my friends have ss600's, but have no prob on the SV keeping up unless its a dull dual carriageway. In fact on the twisties when we all swap bikes the SV tends to lead as its more usable power and we seem to work harder on the ss600's to keep up.

As others have said, at end of the day it's skill over bike - at a novice track day at brands hatch I was flying past R1's and the likes (not saying my skills are great, just that others on bigger bikes were worse!!)

[Tim in Belgium]

Horses for courses, road or track? Bumps & cops? Autobahn or Nurburgring? Grit or super smooth tarmac?

Great fun though SVs, if not the best bike in any single class.

[disco2]

Horses for courses, road or track? Bumps & cops? Autobahn or Nurburgring? Grit or super smooth tarmac?

Great fun though SVs, if not the best bike in any single class.

Is that you in your siggy pic if so HOW THE HELL..................

[andrewsmith]

Is that you in your siggy pic if so HOW THE HELL..................

Tim has a clinical addiction to a certain area of Germany ;)

[punkyp]

Fast enough to get me to work and back. Don't think I'd want or need anything quicker.

[Tim in Belgium]

Is that you in your siggy pic if so HOW THE HELL..................

'Tis me, is easy enough when tootling, managed a similar shot on the R1 but with less sparks :(

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a613/TiminYorkshire/482007_4110334037856_109798575_n_zpsd449f3f0.jpg

This is preferred sparking territory:

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a613/TiminYorkshire/DSC_0178_zps94da32be.jpg

Although this is now pic whoring, similar stuff can be done on an SV, no sparky sliders as was a track day rather than a derestricted public toll road!

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a613/TiminYorkshire/00000471_zps05bdc430.jpg

As can this sort of stuff:

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a613/TiminYorkshire/PICT1389_zps4aa12d67.jpg

But then it can be done on any bike:

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a613/TiminYorkshire/AlpsTrip09172_zpsd887c0b3.jpg

Just a case of stop worrying about what's best/fastest/depreciates less/corners better and ride it :cheers: :p

[otaylor38]

You never fail to make me laugh.

I loved my cg125, maybe not the speed, but it was realiable and cheap. My first geared bike, had michilin pilots sport tyres on it, and wow they handled well around the twists and bends of the cat and fiddle


Hahaha. I used to have an 05 cg125 with those pilot sporty tyres on. It was brilliant fun.
I live in buxton, right next to the cat and fiddle. Used to ride that road twice a day in summer. The 50mph average speed cameras weren't so much of an issue on that lol

[rb8989]

I rated mine fully! Loved it solo and always found it would beg for more in corners.

I found it a bit down on power for two up stuff at times though, that's the only reason I got a bike with more power to replace it, bit of two up distance riding whenever. It was fine for this but with 30+ stone on at one time it was running out of puff pretty quick on motorways and I found that a bit unnerving.

My hooning bike is my CCM and it isbetter handling and faster than the sv in my opinion at legal speeds. Runs out of puff even quicker.

[STRAMASHER]

It only grinds me on big open a-roads.

So pick your roads, and its as fast as most things. Certainly satisfying using all its got.

One of suzukis best engines ever.

[SUPERSTARDJ01]

All depends what your comparing it too? if it's a 125 or 500 then yes but most things 600+ then it is really slow and if you add a pillion you might as well walk. :confused:

[yorkie_chris]

then it is really slow and if you add a pillion you might as well walk. :confused:

Are you sh*tting me?

I've passed GSXR1000s, CBRRRRs, tuonos and ducatis on the SV with my girlfriend and luggage on!

You just need to have more balls about the job than the other guy. I have averaged high 70s mph down some little roads on the 650 with serious luggage on, it's just about carrying the speed rather than having high peak speeds down the straights. I don't even think I would have been #that# much faster on my 750 as with that much weight (more than a pillion) you'd have been lifting the front even more!