Speed limit Changes

[peterco]

Transport Scotland has or is reviewing speed limits on Scottish Roads.

cannot copy and paste as it goes all over the place.
The main speed limits are 50mph .

linky

http://www.transportscotland.gov.uk/road/safety/Speed-limit-review/outcomes#

[carelesschucca]

WTF to some of these!!! 50 mph along the A84? Gies a F*CKING BREAK!!!

They've also got the A85!!!

JUST SHOOT ME NOW PLEASE!!!

[Blue Flame]

Looks like it is a massive stretch of the A85 from Crieff right over. That's one of the roads I quite liked too. :eek: Seems crazy to me.

I notice that they also have recommendations for speed limit increases in some 23 or so locations which they are not going to put through for approval. Funny that.

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[JamesMio]

So, do/can we appeal or oppose this nonsense?

[Sir Trev]

Good luck on any appeal. I've been noting an increase in 50 limits all over the place in Bucks and Oxon which really limits the fun - several scamera vans about this area so you have to be sensible.

[carelesschucca]

Some of these roads don't need it... Looking at it from an IAM point of view it will make these stretches of road more dangerous as overtake will become more difficult causing more frustration. Which has a knock on effect. Its so negative if you ask me.

[andrewsmith]

Some of these roads don't need it... Looking at it from an IAM point of view it will make these stretches of road more dangerous as overtake will become more difficult causing more frustration. Which has a knock on effect. Its so negative if you ask me.

Revenue Generation is the name of the game looking at some of the ones in the borders

[Fordward]

after the A34 in the Midlands from Solihull to Stratford Upon Avon was switched to 50mph, a journalist made a freedom of information request and revealed that there had been significantly more accidents where speed was estimated at 50mph, than those at 60 or even those over the limit

what it showed was that the drivers doing 50 were all those who were asleep and not aware of their surroundings

reducing speed is a way of coping with a reduction in driver ability and bad road design, it will drop driver ability further and we'll end up dropping it to 40mph in 10 years time

the government are chasing a 'zero' accident rate, which just isn't possible whilst you have a human being behind the wheel

its also a way of getting people out of cars and onto public transport as the car no longer becomes faster and easier

[Tiger 55]

So, do/can we appeal or oppose this nonsense?
Can we? Yes.

Do we? F*ck yes!

Of course we're all already members of MAG or the BMF or both, of course we are, so start there.

Next, angry email to this address: speedlimitreview@transportscotland.gsi.gov.uk (speedlimitreview@transportscotland.gsi.gov.uk)

Same letter to your MP, MSP, MEP and if you live in the right area, local councillor.

Maybe it'll help maybe it wont, but don't you dare do nothing and then p*ss and moan about it later.

[JamesMio]

Fairly simple jobby if anyone wishes to copy and paste:

To whom it may concern,

With regards to the proposed changes to speed limits up and down the country, (as detailed here http://www.transportscotland.gov.uk/road/safety/Speed-limit-review/outcomes) I'd like to know who on earth decided this is a sensible idea?

Looking at this from the perspective of a motorcyclist, lowering the speed limit on almost all of these roads (specifically those going from 60mph to 50mph) will make each stretch of road far more dangerous as overtaking will immediately become more difficult, causing more frustration. Which in itself has a knock on effect.

Can you please let me know how and to whom I can file an objection to these proposals?

Best regards,

JamesMio
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[JamesMio]

Aaaand, the automated response:


Dear Sir/Madam

Thank you for your e mail in connection with the Trunk Roads Speed Limit Review.

Your email has been received and a detailed response will be issued within 20 working days from the date of this e mail.

In some areas, where an increase has been recommended, we are already working with communities and the police to positively influence driver speeds towards compliance with the current limit. In such cases we are allowing a period of time to assess effectiveness. Sections of proposed speed limit increases may also benefit from these measures and as such, the proposed speed limit increases will not be promoted at this time.

This is an automated response please do not respond to this email.

Regards

Strategic Road Safety
Transport Scotland

[carelesschucca]

Nice! Might as well have said. Thanks for your email... Its gone into the round file on the floor, but don't dismay the receptacle won't overflow because our polish cleaner is very effective at her job and will process each one of your issues with the greatest of care.

[Bibio]

notice how they are emphasising the 'increased' speeds and nothing about the lowering of speeds.

no you fecking morons we want to know WHY you have decided to reduce speeds on country roads that have no built up areas.

pure fuuuking madness.

[TicklinJock]

This organization gives me the impression that they have a chosen not to treat motorcyclists as legitimate road users in their plans.
This isn't the first time I've had reason to think that.
I also think they have a hidden objective, to reduce speed limits so they can reduce maintenance.

[Fordward]

I also think they have a hidden objective, to reduce speed limits so they can reduce maintenance.

you probably wouldn't be wrong

there's a dual carriageway in Hertfordshire that drops to a 40mph limit for no apparent reason whatsoever, then for no apparent reason the limit goes back to NSL

the reason is it crosses a motorway on a bridge

due to fatigue and age the bridge is not as strong as it once was so trucks going over it at 56mph make it wobble, rather than spend money reinforcing the bridge, they've just put up speed limit signs

of course most of the traffic including the trucks just ignore the limit and carry on at 70mph and 56mph respectively because it's such a short stretch, so it's achieved nothing (other than generate a few speeding fines), but the authorities can drive a truck over it at 40mph and it doesn't wobble so they can say they've made it safe

[Geodude]

Nice! Might as well have said. Thanks for your email... Its gone into the round file on the floor, but don't dismay the receptacle won't overflow because our polish cleaner is very effective at her job and will process each one of your issues with the greatest of care.
Haha class :D

[Bibio]

i think we should all get together and ride these roads at 20mph on sundays.