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A_Yam
29-03-13, 06:24 PM
Hello, I'm, a new member.

I've been riding since august on a yamaha yzf r125 which I purchase for £2.1k. I managed to get my licence in December at the age of 17 (in before the lock :cool:).

Now I currently playing the waiting game for my insurance on my future sv. I have to either wait for my ncb or wait for my family to finally move from my wretched part of london, to get any quote under £2,ooo (max ill pay).

Now I will most likely sell my r125 for cheap to get the funds once i get a decent quote for an pointy SV, so £1900 will sound right. I will then add another £500 to the pot so that will mean i will have £2400 for a pointy SV.

Now I'm just wondering what parts will i need/ how much will it cost, to make the front end of my future SV to look this.

http://i47.tinypic.com/2lu7xxd.jpg

E.G gsxr 2007+ usd/ type yoke / how to make the speedo work.
Would like parts which won't need to be altered drastically since I'm 18 with limited knowledge on bikes i would rather have parts that would fit onto the bike like a jigsaw.


Thanks...

rictus01
29-03-13, 06:28 PM
if you're tight on insurance, I'm not sure you'll find modifying it a cheap option on that score.

Cheers Mark.

Bibio
29-03-13, 06:37 PM
realistically your talking £700 depending on what sort of deal you can find for a front end. if you can get a FULL front including the wheel for under £700 then your laughing.

don't be tempted by the ones listed in ebay from the states as you WILL get shafted for import duty/tax.

another problem is when you upgrade the front you then have to upgrade the shocky.

your young. your going to get utterly stuffed up the rear by insurance company's for insurance. in fact i very much doubt that any insurance company will insure you with the mods.

better getting emulators/springs/oil then a nice rear shock.

A_Yam
29-03-13, 06:42 PM
if you're tight on insurance, I'm not sure you'll find modifying it a cheap option on that score.

Cheers Mark.

Got the money for insurance £2,ooo. It's just that I'm waiting to get a quote at £2,ooo because i can't justify paying more. When I already have a bike which will do the same job (inner city commute withe the odd 40mph road.)

Bibio
29-03-13, 06:44 PM
at 17 your not going to get insurance for a modified bike.... anywhere.

A_Yam
29-03-13, 06:48 PM
realistically your talking £700 depending on what sort of deal you can find for a front end. if you can get a FULL front including the wheel for under £700 then your laughing.

don't be tempted by the ones listed in ebay from the states as you WILL get shafted for import duty/tax.

another problem is when you upgrade the front you then have to upgrade the shocky.

your young. your going to get utterly stuffed up the rear by insurance company's for insurance. in fact i very much doubt that any insurance company will insure you with the mods.

better getting emulators/springs/oil then a nice rear shock.

Yh true, thanks for the input. I will try and prevent my self on modding the suspension. Won't be hard since the jump up to 600cc will get my heart racing alone, maybe after a few months when i get bored/ haven't dropped the bike may I then start considering changing the forks.

A_Yam
29-03-13, 06:52 PM
at 17 your not going to get insurance for a modified bike.... anywhere.

Do most of you guys declare your modifications? I thought it was a rare thing.
I would only consider declaring all mods if i was fully comp. If i was covered with TPF&T, then i wouldn't.
If its stolen then its gone, then the bike is out of my/ insurers hands. If I bin it then its my fault and if someone goes into me then ill go directly to the 3rd party insurers not mine.

Bibio
29-03-13, 06:57 PM
yes we declare mods as you would have to be a complete moron not to. it's not just the price of the bike it's if you smash into someone or they smash into you then the game is up and your out of luck.

ok so the odd little mod like stickers and leavers etc.etc are ok but not larger ones like exhausts, shockys and front ends.

andrewsmith
29-03-13, 06:59 PM
Firstly

How doo

Do most of you guys declare your modifications? I thought it was a rare thing.
I would only consider declaring all mods if i was fully comp. If i was covered with TPF&T, then i wouldn't.
If its stolen then its gone, then the bike is out of my/ insurers hands. If I bin it then its my fault and if someone goes into me then ill go directly to the 3rd party insurers not mine.

Legally required to declare modifications. If your intensions is to do the top one your never going to get insurance, others have struggled.
At 17 your best to put better fork springs in the front (and/ or emulators) and swap the shock. About £300 job and insurers don't go mad

Tomor
29-03-13, 07:13 PM
I paid £700 for my first years insurance on the sv. I don't live in London and the mods were only cosmetic. I would dred to think how much a modded sv like bibs would cost me to insure at 19!! I would say stick with the simple mods, and wait until you have some years under your belt with the sv before doing anything drastic.

otaylor38
29-03-13, 07:17 PM
Do you need to change the suspension? How much do you weigh? Going from a 125 to an sv, are you going to need the handling benefits right away? Id put up with the odd clunk when you hit a pothole if i was you. Id be seriously asking myself if your a fast enough rider to benefit in the corners?

Iv had the sv a year and i dont feel i need it yet, n i have my moments where i dont hang around

musne
30-03-13, 06:39 AM
Gosh. 2 grand for insurance.

That could pay for a lovely holiday in Barbados for 2 weeks.

Wildkid
30-03-13, 11:16 AM
He hasn't even ridden the bike yet and he's talking about suspension. One thing is it will be a hell of a lot better than the r125...

aesmith
30-03-13, 05:10 PM
Rather than immediately ditching the standard suspension and fitting bits off other bikes, why not get an R6 or GSXR in the first place?

otaylor38
30-03-13, 07:09 PM
Something tells me this guy wont be restricting to 33bhp. I just get that feeling...

Dave20046
30-03-13, 07:27 PM
Came here to ask if people genuinely still say sup but then saw the bike...



that's lovely!


RE. mods. finding insurance (at an affordable figure) is always a pain when you're young, with mods it's 10x worse. You won't necessarily be paying more because it's modified as such you just need to find the companies that don't 'rate against non-power mods'*

I'm sure there's a mod friendly insurance list somewhere. H&R I think I was with last year.

*the problem here is when you mention you;ve restricted the power (after the suspension mods) I've had insurance refused as it's a modification to power output regardless of the fact you're actually lowering the power.
There's no black and white with insurance companies and the people answering the phone know their products/rules and regs even less than the consumer.

aesmith
30-03-13, 07:32 PM
Can't see why restricting using the 33HP ECU should be an insurance problem. Does it even count as a "modification" if it's an optional part made by Suzuki for that model?

a_monkey_hint
30-03-13, 08:26 PM
Did I read that correctly? £2000 insurance!? I think I'd rather walk...

DJ123
30-03-13, 09:04 PM
Can't see why restricting using the 33HP ECU should be an insurance problem. Does it even count as a "modification" if it's an optional part made by Suzuki for that model?

Yes, because it changes the bike from factory standard. You could say the same for a Suzuki hugger, belly pan, luggage etc etc. If you change something it is classed as a modification & should be declared to your insurer. Most mods don't up the premium by much. With the extra mods on mine (none of which are performance enhancing) it costs an extra £50-that covers end can, luggage (up to £500), tail tidy, change of screen, uprated suspension.