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Just done the Look Lean Roll course with TVAM. Great day, great people and great weather for once. Just thought I would post to say to all the new TVAM folk that if you haven't done it, DO IT!
Fallout
14-04-13, 03:03 PM
Does the roll refer to the throttle?
No, commando. It's a lowside technique.
Yeah mate, it's just a cornering school really. They put some cones out on a nice private bit of tarmac and you wiz round and get some good tuition and feedback on your technique. Really helpful and loads of fun. I fancy some motogymkhana now.
Spank86
14-04-13, 03:51 PM
Does the roll refer to the throttle?
No, the bacon butty.
Counter steering, arm flexing, hero-blob scraping fun.
Fallout
14-04-13, 07:11 PM
Did anyone drop their motorrad?
ClunkintheUK
15-04-13, 08:28 AM
The Observer who does that course is my observer. Went for ride last weekend and she is really really smooth. even on the tight country lanes when a car was coming the other way wasn't phased even slightly. Need to book onto one of these.
Dates are in slip stream Clive, get it booked.
I fancy doing this? where do i sign up? ( i dont know what slipstream is)
Join TVAM, apply, job done.
Or come to my local tesco early on a Sunday and do the knee down challenge around the trolly shelter :)
mines booked for may 12th. looking forward to it!
Geodude
18-05-13, 11:53 AM
Is this only a regional training scheme with TVAM. I ask as i cant find any info on it for anywhere else?
Sir Trev
18-05-13, 12:12 PM
Mentioned it to a pal last weekend who is with the Milton Keynes AM group. He looked puzzled but said he is doing the odd Gymkhana event which looks mental!
Look lean and roll is a course just offered by TVAM geodude, so probs a bit far for you to come ;)
I think what Geodude is wondering (and myself as well) is whether there are similar courses elsewhere in the country based on the same techniques. Other post-test schemes (including IAM Skills for Life) are offered nationally, and there are quite a few people who are looking for ways to improve their riding without the stigma associated with advanced training.
For my part, I would be interested in a course like this despite being a full IAM member and observer, because I don't believe there is a point where you can say you know everything. My experience says that everyone learns in a different way, so access to as many methods of imparting cornering techniques and instilling the 4 principles (from Roadcraft, not these) helps everyone.
Im not sure, if your local bike group doesnt provide such a thing then possibly not. Im fortunate that tvam is the biggest bike group and is also on my dooorstep so they do alot of good courses
Fallout
19-05-13, 09:01 AM
Isn't look lean and roll what morbidly obese people do when they want to get out of bed?
Isn't look lean and roll what morbidly obese people do when they want to get out of bed?
If it helps me ride better, I'll give it a go...
Fallout
19-05-13, 10:09 AM
On an unrelated subject, how do you find the 990smt mate? Been looking at them for quite a while, but not ridden one yet.
All the bike I could ever want - very like your Tiger I suspect, although I was burned by my experience with the 1050 engine in my Speed Triple. I've been far too gentle with it so far so I've only put 15k on it, but that'll change this year. Probably the main endorsement I can see is that I can't think of a bike I want to replace it with...
Fallout
19-05-13, 12:31 PM
Sounds good to me. I think the SMT is the only bike I'd consider changing the Tiger for, but the 4000 mile service interval would be the main drawback for me. At my current rate that'd be a service every 2 months, and I've heard an oil change can be a bit of a faff with KTMs.
By the book, the intervals are 6000km (4600ml). The oil change thing I don't know a lot about, but it seems easier to me (going off the owners manual) - all the bolts are small (M5/M6) except for the drain plug, and it's a case of remove cover A, pull the filter out and replace it. Special tool is a pair of circlip pliers rather than a filter wrench, which is probably the only thing not included in the OEM toolkit.
Fallout
19-05-13, 01:47 PM
Ahh, that would be the faff bit then. On the Tiger the sump bolt and filter are all accessible without any messing about, so it takes 5 mins. I'll look into it. I intend to change the oil ever 3k on the Tiger anyway, just to give it longevity with all these miles, so I could use the same interval on the KTM. Food for thought!
The faff is probably where there are 3 elements - a screen on the right, the main filter on the left and a sieve in the sump (separate from the main engine block). Either that or the bloody horrid blister pack that they come in, looking at the manual
Geodude
19-05-13, 03:41 PM
Look lean and roll is a course just offered by TVAM geodude, so probs a bit far for you to come ;)
Cheers stu, it is a bit far tbh ;)
I think what Geodude is wondering (and myself as well) is whether there are similar courses elsewhere in the country based on the same techniques. Other post-test schemes (including IAM Skills for Life) are offered nationally, and there are quite a few people who are looking for ways to improve their riding without the stigma associated with advanced training.
For my part, I would be interested in a course like this despite being a full IAM member and observer, because I don't believe there is a point where you can say you know everything. My experience says that everyone learns in a different way, so access to as many methods of imparting cornering techniques and instilling the 4 principles (from Roadcraft, not these) helps everyone.
Yeah just fancied the course without the iam faff too, i'll ask about a bit more as you never know.
Isn't look lean and roll what morbidly obese people do when they want to get out of bed?
You Sir are a god damned comedy genius and i demand a tv series or two ;)
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