Which new tyres?

[GHollis]

Hi guy.

This has most likely been chatted about to the ends of the world a back but I'm a new rider and have no comparable experience when it comes to the round black things that keep me upright, my rear Tyre needs replacing as soon as the bank says yes.

So I was wondering should I stick with the standard Dunlop D220 or think about another tyre all together. I like to ride the bike quite hard but well within its limits.

All your help will be very much Appreciated

[granty92]

i dont feel like standard dunlops really last very long if you give the bike a bit of stick, have you looked at michelin pilot road 3's? a better tyre in everyway i feel :) last lot longer and have more confidence in the rain with them too as the dunlops used to slide round quite a bit

[GHollis]

I have just done a quick search to see what people think of the dunlops and all I can find is negative reviews.

So if I changed to say the Michelin on the rear would you recommend that I also replace the front at the same time even though the current front tyre is fine.

[JAWs]

Plus 1 for the PR 3's, had mine fitted back in April and love 'em. I commute 160 miles a week, every week and they inspire so much confidence in all conditions.

[granty92]

yeah i'd advise changing both at the same time due to different grips and tread pattern, not sure why but its always recommended to replace both

[GHollis]

Do you know what a set should cost me around inc fitting

[granty92]

tyres should be around £210 so maybe like £240 fitted ish? depends who fits them really

[GHollis]

Cool many thanks for your help, it gives me a very good idea on where I need to be.

[NTECUK]

If your after a cheap option Maxxis are fine.

[mase_tw]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-120-60ZR-17-160-60ZR-17-Michelin-Pilot-Road-Motorcycle-Pair-Tyres-/300904049450?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item460f476b2a

These look ok for budgets, FWR Tyres fit them for £5 per wheel if the wheels are loose £25 if the wheels are on the bike. Never actually been but heard good reviews of them

[GHollis]

The only problem I have is that my cash is all tied up till September. My current rear tyre is a little worn in the centre and the tread Guide is running flush with the tyre, (will try a show on pic) how long would you say i have left or would you say it's best not to ride it

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[Nutsinatin]

Looks like you're down to the wear indicators (those knobles in the tread) so I would replace when I could, the last few mm goes much faster than the rest! But they're not going to give out on you overnight, so replace when you can. I've done 2200 miles on my Road Pilots 3's since March and unless you're really pushing it they're fine, and you'll be amazed how far you can get over in the wet with them. I only use road pilots but others disagree, up to you.

[GHollis]

Would you say that I would get another couple of hundred miles out of them if I ride sensibly and not push then hard, I know you can give me a definitive answer. Your personal experience is all I ask.

[joe_f59]

Just bought pilot power 2ct's. Wobbly as hell!!! Until I scrubbed them in... Stunning tyre

[Bluefish]

You should get a couple more hundred as long as you take it easy.

[Red ones]

I bet there is some spare tread on the edges. Just do corners.

[GHollis]

Many thanks for all your help, think I may invest in a full set of road pilot 3

[mep]

Those Dunlops don't last. Our Sons only lasted a year (4000 miles) on his Fazer.

I use Avon Storm 2 Ultras and as they are sports touring tyres they will last for much longer. 3 years 6000 miles and they still have plenty of life left in them.

[GHollis]

When I got the bike in April it had around 4800miles on the clock I would say without looking I've added around 1000 to that with the assumption they are the original tyres from new as the bike is just under two years old. for me I don't know if that's good or bad tyre wear.

What are you guys currently getting from your before they need replacing??

[GagginForraPint]

The Pilot Road 3's get a good review on MCN.
I don't think the original Dunlops are any good, always a feeling of about to crash in the wet.

[Tomor]

I have just got a set of the new Bridgestone T30's. Very grippy, just ask Mark_h when I went out to scrub them in :D

[veenee]

My D220s lasted for 8500 miles, changed to Roadsmarts 2 - wow, they are great.
Totally different feeling.

[MJC-DEV]

Avon Storm Ultra 2 . Very good and made in the UK!

[Matt-EUC]

Pirelli Angel ST/GT. I have the ST's which are claimed to be good for 10'000 miles. I'll let you know when I get there. The GT's are supposed to be better in every way.

[TheRuffellator]

+1 for the Pilot road 3's

[GHollis]

It seems like no one really likes the Dunlop's. is that mostly down to how long they last or just the matter of grip and feel they give or don't give??

[Nutsinatin]

It seems like no one really likes the Dunlop's. is that mostly down to how long they last or just the matter of grip and feel they give or don't give??

Grip, especially in the wet!

[dkid]

Don't assume all dunlops are poor though. I had the roadsmart 2's on my SV and they were very very good.

[Littlepeahead]

Avon Storms are what Rictus uses and he seems happy with them and he does a lot of miles. We got a set put on Chris8886's SV last weekend £262 fitted.

[Matt-EUC]

I still swear by my Pirelli's. £200 fitted. Good for 10,000miles.

[Mark_h]

Another vote for PR3's here too. Also used by a bunch of high-mileage spirited riders I know. Not cheapest but damn good, especially in the wet. Beware though if anything like the PR2's I had before when the front goes off it goes off in a big way as it wears into a strange shape.

[savage86]

I've got bridgestones bt023's on mine at the moment no complaints good in the dry and wet, have got 5000 out of the rear starting to square off now thats a 80mile round commute on not so windy roads and the odd thrash round the coast roads when i get the chance. Might be able to get a good deal as their being replace with the s20 i think. If you don't do wet then most tyres will be a match for what you need.

[Red ones]

Metz Z6 here. 11000 miles out of the rear, 22000 miles out of the front.

Sh*t in the winter when it's wet.

[Vibbentrop]

I ditched the awful factory Dunlops and fitted a pair of Pirelli Diablo Rosso IIs. They are outstanding. They grip like they're glued and give me the confidence to push to the max. Hopefully, being dual-compound, the rear won't square off too quickly.

[GHollis]

I would be looking for a tyre that can handle being push when the sun is shining but also when it's very cold give me the confidence to lean it in. Which basically means a good all weather sport touring tyre.

[muzikill]

Metz Z6 here. 11000 miles out of the rear, 22000 miles out of the front.

Sh*t in the winter when it's wet.

I thought z6's were fine in the wet.

[Red ones]

With Z6 on I find that if it rains and the temperature is below 5C you and pop the back end out easily and even spin up the rear on the motorway. That said I still buy them and then take it easy.

[Ajwou]

Question: How much would you pay for Michelin Pilot Road fitted?

[Nutsinatin]

£228 with loose wheels

[Ajwou]

£228 with loose wheels

Thanks, I wasn't even expecting such a accurate number:-).
I paid £265 today and I wasn't sure if that's normal price (but they had to take the weels off), so I suppose that's not far from the normal value.

[disco]

Has anyone else fitted and used the new T30 tyre

[Tomor]

Been running a set on my street since the AR. very impressed but haven't ridden in very wet conditions yet so that could all change.

[disco]

The bt023 were really popular so still thinking I might try a pair ANY ADVANCES?


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[Matt-EUC]

Yeah, they're ok. Try the PR3's next time though. You won't regret it.

[disco]

I'll look them up cheers


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[Toooldtodie]

I have just got a set of the new Bridgestone T30's. Very grippy, just ask Mark_h when I went out to scrub them in :D

So good I got my knee down without even thinking or trying to do so. These tyres are awesome. Don't know about mileage, but I don't care even if I have to replace them every year (5000 mile annual commute) they are planted in wet or dry, rather that than as a bonnet mascot for a truck.

[disco]

Do i need new tyres? http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/03/4e9yruma.jpg


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[Nutsinatin]

You're down to the wear indicator, that's normally a sign! Road legal is 1mm on 3/4 of the breadth of the tyre, but I'm not that brave, a general recommendation would be at 2mm, so looks like it's new tyre time! And just while I have your attention, I love the PR3's as I trust them, but each to their own!

[disco]

So I've spent the morning reading about the PR 3s which then led me onto the PP 3 which look a better tyre again, I would rather have a set of tyres that I could trust and had confidence in and loose a few miles than the other way round . Comments are all ways appreciated.

[Matt-EUC]

You might want to take into consideration the season we're in. Wet performance is what you're likely to want.

[wideguy]

So I've spent the morning reading about the PR 3s which then led me onto the PP 3 which look a better tyre again, I would rather have a set of tyres that I could trust and had confidence in and loose a few miles than the other way round . Comments are all ways appreciated.
I sometimes ride with a guy who has PR3's on his new Ninja 1000. I don't ride with him often, because his pace on the roads is about what I'd ride for a first session on a track day- way to fast to be safe on the street! He consistently runs completely to the edge of both his front and rear tire, and he uses the power of his engine, which is considerable. He's not had any traction issues with the PR3's. None. He always gets under 3000 miles on a set of tires. The last time I saw him, he had 3500 on the PR3's, and they didn't look even half worn out. He's the reason I bought PR3's for my RC-51, and my SV650.
One of the guys I ride with regularly bought PR3's for his R-6. His first time out on them he was faster, smoother and more consistent than I've ever seen him. He rides the front tire hard into turns, and ran his front PR3 to the edge the first time he used it. I'm looking forward to getting mine on!

[Citizen]

I put PR3`s on mine and they are quality, money well spent as far as I can tell.

[disco]

There are more positive comments on the pr3s than the t30 on this forum and the net I guess that's due to the newness of the t30s but I've emailed my local supplier for prices I'll post them once I've got them.


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[jambo]

For the road I honestly think any of the current sports-touring tyres will do you very well.

James

[disco]

For anyone interested I bought a set of Bridgestone S20's. £240 fitted at Dave Clark motorbikes in oxford.


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[disco]

I have just replaced my originals with a pair of s20 batt lax OMG I should've done it the day I bought the bike.


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[disco]

First impressions only mind. But riding over white lines, cats eyes, I feel so much more confident I have only travelled 120 miles on them so they seem to have scrubbed in quite quickly though I haven't really pushed them yet. And I hasten to add I am not an expert.


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[GowerSV]

One thing to bear in mind with any new tyres - they always seem soooo much better than old worn out tyres with little tread. Comparisons are not always like with like. On my last SV I went from the Dunlops to Bridgestone sport touring and after they were scrubbed in, there was not that much difference. The thing is with the wet on the road - speed is the problem with any tyre. When I rode the GSXR-600 with 126 bhp I learned to ride within my limits in the rain or suffer the consequences. It's so easy to lose it on any tyre. I would echo what was said above - for the road, sport touring. Sticky rubber is great on a dry track. The Dunlops are not the best but there should be not enough real gains to be made changing before they are due IMO. If you get down to the wear marks in the middle - most tyres will slide. With any tyres, change sooner rather than later. As a general rule - quality goes with cost - you won't go far wrong with Pr3s but still don't expect too much in the rain!

[Red ones]

I agree.

I have D220 at the moment as they're original. They're like any other tyre in the cold and wet. Get the air temp below 5 C or so and get a spot of damp on the road and you will struggle. Last winter I somehow managed to spin the rear up on the motorway with Metz on the rear.

I think bike tyres are designed for fair weather riders and the result is the rest of us pay that price. The SV has enough speed and even enough power to run out of road and grip in the winter very easily. Wet riding is different, cold and wet riding is different again.