View Full Version : How not to ride and filter...
Specialone
02-08-13, 08:41 AM
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ebc_1375334565
Red Herring
02-08-13, 08:57 AM
Video says it all really, clearly a communication issue between his eyes, brain and right hand....
Specialone
02-08-13, 09:02 AM
And not looking more than 6ft in front of him, he did actually spot was happening but didn't react until much later, he should've been standing on his brakes then or heading for hard shoulder to give himself more braking room, or having better obs and speed for the road and conditions of course.
He passed 2 cars that had their brake lights on. And only realised on approaching the 3rd that there might be a reason for this. Less swearing, more braking, manoeuvring, or planning and he had tons of room. Lucky lad, could have been worse!
Jambo
Geodude
02-08-13, 09:26 AM
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/naturelibrary/images/ic/credit/640x395/g/gr/great_tit/great_tit_1.jpg
Glad hes okay though, could have got a bit squishy.
SvNewbie
02-08-13, 09:42 AM
As well as his observation skills being incredibly poor, though it is hard to tell from a video, the way the back end of the bike is moving about looks like he locked that with little or no front brake.
It is hard to tell from any video just how close or not something is but it looked as though he may have been able to squeeze through if he hadn't locked the rear causing him to fishtail or head for the hard shoulder.
As mentioned before also looked as though he didn't use much front brake.
Matt-EUC
02-08-13, 10:56 AM
If he'd slammed on the anchors the front end would have dived, and it didn't. I think this is another "I watched a video where someone locked up the front, front brake is scary, I'm never using the front brake again!"
There we have a classic without due care and attention. Don't play with lorries they hurt!!!
Hopefully he will have learnt a lot from this and that would be the end of it.
Im struggling to see how he managed to crash there. Is the guy blind or something? Cars with brakes lights on, 2 massive lorries clearly visible from a long way back and he still manages to mess this up. Sell your bike pal and call it a day.
Paul the 6th
02-08-13, 11:28 AM
siht... Siht.... SIHT.
Very lucky not to end up under the wheels either side of him, and then rolling around on wheels of his own for the rest of his life.
Thunderace
02-08-13, 11:30 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Silly ****er!
savage86
02-08-13, 12:28 PM
And this is why the rest of use get a bad rep.
nikon70
02-08-13, 12:34 PM
OMG what a stupid move!
first - if you're gonna mess with tight spots pull ya mirrors in...
second - learn how to ride
third - sissy bars ... really!
looks like no injury - apart his ego...
he won't mess with trucks again for a long time!
I am all for lane splitting / filtering but slowly and always looking well ahead for lane changers!
Jackie_Black
02-08-13, 05:33 PM
The filtering was a bit aggressive to start with. Traffic was moving quickly enough. I reckon it was an elbows in moment. YC would have made it through nee bother.
Lmao he had so much time to stop its unreal. What a nob
hahahahhahahahaaaaaaa dumbass.
Red ones
02-08-13, 06:00 PM
" there was no way I was going to stop"
Really?
Try your brakes at the same time as the cars did!
Fallout
02-08-13, 06:28 PM
Agree with the comments on rear wheel braking. Noob!!
Matt-EUC
02-08-13, 06:29 PM
Agree with the comments on rear wheel braking. Noob!!
Yeah, that.
That's not filtering & that's a very bad example of riding
Thunderace
02-08-13, 07:43 PM
Agree with the comments on rear wheel braking. Noob!!
There is a break on the back wheel???? When the **** would you need such a thing????
Bluefish
02-08-13, 07:50 PM
haha what a nobber, did you see the way those artic's came from nowhere? lol
Balky001
02-08-13, 08:19 PM
I think when riding its always better to look for than 20 foot in front of you . :D
Phoenix22
02-08-13, 08:30 PM
Why would anybody film themselves doing this, let alone post it on the web?
Nobody can ride that badly & still be alive surely?
Specialone
02-08-13, 09:09 PM
Heavy progressive braking with BOTH brakes would've stopped that bike, nothing wrong with using rear as long as your effective with it.
Fallout
02-08-13, 09:28 PM
There is a break on the back wheel???? When the **** would you need such a thing????
They are useful for rear wheel skids when showing off to girls, and that's about it.
They are useful for rear wheel skids when showing off to girls, and that's about it.
If you use it wrong ;) They are useful at low speeds to help with manoeuvrability.
Also, on a lot of new bikes the front and rear brakes are linked. Pressing the front brake also brings on a bit of rear brake to help settle the bike.
Fallout
02-08-13, 09:58 PM
Don't mistake this for a serious conversation my good man!
Did she look fit. .?.
Or have I missed the point of the thread.
dirtydog
02-08-13, 11:42 PM
Oops!
Oh dear! What a fool. Surely the humiliation of weaving through those cars like that and then falling off in front of them is punishment enough!!
Oh the shame of it all. I just can't imagine how stupid he felt when the people who were seconds ago more than likely calling him a D!ckhead were out of the car seeing if he was ok as he picked himself up off of the floor!
cheesypeeps
03-08-13, 01:07 PM
It's a pity the dude didn't use his brakes as much as he said the naughty S word!!
It's the bike I feel sorry for! :)
Red ones
03-08-13, 05:12 PM
Respect to the car drivers for asking if he was ok, not adding "knob" to the end
his brain was too busy concentrating on using words. how the feck could he not see two huge feckin artics up ahead, where did he think he was going to go when they were side by side. moron, complete and utter moron who should not have a bike licence. in fact he is that special he should use public transport and make the roads a safer place.
i'm still dumbfounded as to how he could not see two huge lorry's in front of him.
ooohhh wait he might have not been wearing his glasses as they are two heavy due to being to thick as he is obviously blind as a bat.
Ha Ha! I've just shown it to my 2 year old son.
He just laughed at the end and said. "He can't do it!" Sums it up really.
Seggons
04-08-13, 08:53 AM
I'm going to stick my head above the parapet and defend the guy to some degree. When on the motorway/dual carriageway casually driving with people around you doing 50 - 80 mph you don't expect to suddenly come across traffic doing 2mph. When you do the speed in which you close the gap is massive and trying to scrub off 70-odd mph on a bike is a tough deal.
I get the impression from some of the comments here that people have the braking ability of Rossi when in reality who knows how we'll brake in a panic situation. Me in that situation, I would've most likely nail the front brake too hard and been on my back side sliding into the lorry's. I personally would give him a pat on the back for having the foresight to brake hard but not too hard that he could still alter his path. Also for realizing he didn't have enough room to stop and no hard shoulder so trying to take it down the middle to make more room. It didn't work but think of the outcome if he got on the brakes, target fixated and planted himself in the back of the lorry.
On this guys official channel he does say he was on the brakes before the first "S" word. As for the car managing to stop we all know as bikers that's not a fair comparison. They have 4 wheels on the ground, 4 brakes and possibly ABS so all they have to do is stand on them as hard as they can.
I know this is going to be picked apart and proved wrong but I can see it from the riders point of view. He's the same type of average rider that we all are. :smt102
Specialone
04-08-13, 09:49 AM
Scott, I see where you're coming from and as we all know, that video seems like he had loads of time but in reality that would've happened in a heart beat, still doesn't excuse the fact that he wasn't looking far enough ahead, he was going too fast for the traffic, he didn't see an escape path quick enough etc etc.
I'm no super confident rider and have done things that if viewed by an on board camera would have negative comments from everyone, but I'm sure most riders have too.
He made a really bad judgement and survived, let's hope it's his last one.
Seggons
04-08-13, 12:26 PM
For him not looking far enough ahead I sit on the fence on that one. He might very well not have been. But if I see 2 lorry's side by side in the very distance I assume that they are overtaking and doing somewhere in the 50's mph. I do a lot of driving and I've wrongly assumed a car in the distance is going faster than it is then having to quickly react to change lanes or apply the brakes stronger than I was expecting. I'm sure I'm not the only one. It's not until you get closer does your mind register they are actually doing 5mph.
I agree on the point he was going too fast for the traffic. I personally think he did see an escape path quick enough and as above I'd pat him on the back for taking it while being heavy on the brakes. I cannot see any other path he could of taken that would've been safer. Maybe if he had an ABS bike the back wouldn't of slid out and caught the lorry and he would of manged to filter through without meaning it.
But don't get me wrong I'm not saying what he did was wrong because he ultimately was in the wrong. I just think he did quite well considering the situation he put himself in and am not willing to throw insults at him. Plus I've been that guy wearing a camera, had a stupid off into bushes and put it on the internet. :lol:
Not knocking your opinion at all seggons, but I really can't applaud him for anything other than posting his embarrassing video on the net! There's no way I would ever weave in and out of traffic like that ever!
Again I'm not the most confident rider, nor do I have the braking ability of Rossi ;)
Fallout
04-08-13, 01:09 PM
I keep watching it and I fail to see how he can be at all vindicated. Everything about the ride from weaving, to the space he gives the cars he's weaving around, forward observation, braking skill etc. is atrocious. He shouldn't be on the road. It's awful to watch.
There's no way he's braking with decent force on the front. No fork dip or anything. Head stays up, tail wiggling at the end. You don't have to be Rossi to squeeze the front lever in a straight line on a motorway. But irrespective of that, there's no justification for not seeing two stationary trucks in front of you. The reason why he didn't see them was because he wasn't looking, because he was arsing around weaving and basically thinking he was the mutts.
I think it's God awful, and he needs to either do some advanced riding courses or give up riding all together.
Seggons
04-08-13, 02:34 PM
I don't see where people are getting this idea that he was weaving about? From the clip I see he's in Lane 2 from start to the crash. At worst he's moved from lane 1 to 2, but that's normal from where I come from? Fallout how do you know he's not braking with decent force? The camera is mounted on his helmet so your not going to see how hard he's braking. He might be braking so hard on the front that it's lifting the rear off of the ground which causes it to go sideways.
Unless there is a third person point of view or data printout to show he was weaving, only braking by 20% etc etc then I'm basing my opinion on the tiny bit of video.
Fallout
04-08-13, 02:50 PM
In the very first frame of the video he's undertaking a car, then moves into the fast lane to overtake, although he never really makes it fully into the fast lane. Then back to the inside lane to undertake, then back to the fast lane. All movements within a metre of the cars. No safe space given. That's weaving! I appreciate a lot of bikers do this, but it doesn't make it right. I can't remember the last time I undertook a car.
As for the braking, I play around with a lot of helmet cam footage. I couldn't tell you what speed he's travelling at or how much speed he scrubs off, but I can say from seeing myself braking a lot on camera that I slow down a hell of a lot quicker than he did, on a knackered old gixxer with warped brake discs and a shoddy 2 finger braking technique.
I even have a vid of me doing 80 around a corner leant right over on a quiet road, only to see a car reversing back around the corner towards me. I couldn't brake hard because of lean, so I just braked a bit and looked for my exit strategy, but I still clearly slow down quicker than this chap.
Obviously I can't say any of this for fact. Perhaps the perspective is just tricking me and he's going much faster than he seems to be, but every now and then I'll do 80mph emergency brake checks/practices, just so I can keep in mind how it feels and know I can do it, and I stop a lot quicker than he did. And I'm no Rossi! :)
Seggons
04-08-13, 03:29 PM
I must apologize for my comment on the weaving. I was watching that he uploaded to his channel here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xwEIBZlqmc which doesn't feature the first few seconds so yes he was very much a noob in that respect. :)
Specialone
04-08-13, 05:12 PM
Looking at this guys videos, I've made my mind up about him and his riding.
Coming from someone that almost had a head-on at 50ish the other day on a bike with mediocre brakes, i can safely say he could of easily stopped in about 1/2 of that distance (2/3 at worst)if he had just used the brakes in the way they were meant to be used. Watching it again, he has even more time than i remebered. And the fact he is swearing and not concentrating on braking?! When i almost hit the car, my thought were purely on stopping the bike...i dont see at all how saying something out loud could be a subconscious reaction, and therefore if its a consious reaction he had time to think about that...but not brake? Proper ****.
SvNewbie
05-08-13, 11:10 AM
Reading his comments on Facebook, what I think is worse than his obvious lack of riding skill is that he is accepting no blame for the accident. He doesn't even concede that he was riding too fast for the conditions. As far as he is concerned he is just a victim of circumstance and there was nothing he could have done.
Frightening that we have to share the roads with people like that.
Reading his comments on Facebook, what I think is worse than his obvious lack of riding skill is that he is accepting no blame for the accident. He doesn't even concede that he was riding too fast for the conditions. As far as he is concerned he is just a victim of circumstance and there was nothing he could have done.
Frightening that we have to share the roads with people like that.
Using his eyes and then brakes in that order would've done it. lol
What a muppet.
As far as he is concerned he is just a victim of circumstance and there was nothing he could have done.
Some people only assess their riding after a big off, some not even then. The best riders I know are quite willing to accept that they make mistakes assess them as they happen regardless of whether it develops into a serious situation or not and try not to do the same thing next time a similar situation develops.
There's plenty to learn from this video.
If we can't learn from our past we are doomed to repeat it ;)
Jambo
There was tonnes of room between those lorries. He just chickened it at the last minute.
Shoulda stayed on power and flown through :cool:
There was tonnes of room between those lorries. He just chickened it at the last minute.
Shoulda stayed on power and flown through :cool:
...into a sea of stationary vehicles in various lane positions.
You first ;)
Jambo
Matt-EUC
05-08-13, 11:46 AM
I'd have aimed for the hard shoulder. Even if I hit the back of the truck on the left I wouldn't be risking getting run over by 30 tonne trucks.
...into a sea of stationary vehicles in various lane positions.
You first ;)
Jambo
I reckon I can see a clear path all the way to the bridge :D
Biker Biggles
05-08-13, 12:33 PM
Nob.I cant see anything in that clip that justifies this bloke being allowed anywhere near a bike ever again and all that is made ten time worse by his inability to understand that this crash was all down to him being a total nob.
Im sure there have been cases where the polis have taken self posted video evidence and procecuted people for speeding? How about them doing this bloke for due care as a public notice to him and others not to drive like utter nobs?Won't happen of course as there is no political advantage in due care cases compared to speeding
no matter how hard you make the motorcycle test muppet's like this still get threw.
Matt-EUC
05-08-13, 05:56 PM
no matter how hard you make the motorcycle test muppet's like this still get threw.
This.
MickeyHall
05-08-13, 06:21 PM
What a nob, me coming off at slow speed because of wheel locking due to a white van mug slamming his brakes on makes me feel happier now that I didn't try and turn myself into a fag paper like this *****.
Red Herring
06-08-13, 11:48 AM
There's plenty to learn from this video.
If we can't learn from our past we are doomed to repeat it ;)
Jambo
I always advocate learning from others mistakes, far cheaper and less painful.
I know the police always get slagged off for being know it alls but after numerous years dealing with the mistakes of others you do tend to pick up a thing or two.....
_Stretchie_
06-08-13, 12:36 PM
He shouldn't be on the road. It's awful to watch.
He won't be for long
very much a noob
Too many 'o's in that last word my friend
Fallout
06-08-13, 04:27 PM
I thought I'd check out another video just to see if he redeems himself. I watched one minute of this video, and although nothing stands out as awful in his riding, his attitude obviously shows he is an utter nob face of the highest possible order.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH9dE02tpnM
Matt-EUC
06-08-13, 04:55 PM
I couldn't agree more. Swearing for the sake of swearing just isn't cool and makes you sound like a knob.
Fallout
06-08-13, 05:45 PM
More the fact that he had to call everyone else on the road cnut, give everyone abuse, and then continue to vlog about his amazing sexual prowess of 2 hours in the back of a car of a woman he enjoyed taking advantage of. Classy lad!
Matt-EUC
06-08-13, 05:49 PM
Hey, I was with him on everything but the swearing :D
Fallout
06-08-13, 05:52 PM
Well being the angelic soul I am, after the first mofo greeting I wept piteously.
Bluefish
06-08-13, 06:53 PM
yeah I just checked out a couple more of his vids, Wish I hadn't now :smt067
Specialone
06-08-13, 07:26 PM
I thought I'd check out another video just to see if he redeems himself. I watched one minute of this video, and although nothing stands out as awful in his riding, his attitude obviously shows he is an utter nob face of the highest possible order.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH9dE02tpnM
Yep I watched a few the other day, thats why I said earlier "you paint a picture of him" after watching them, which is not complimentary.
Im almost glad he fell off after just putting myself through the misery of watching one of his other videos, the guy is an utter di**!
Fallout
06-08-13, 10:15 PM
Yep I watched a few the other day, thats why I said earlier "you paint a picture of him" after watching them, which is not complimentary.
Yeah, your post prompted me to have a look. At least he seems to get plenty of dislikes for his videos, though I doubt he's aware he is a total tool.
Matt-EUC
06-08-13, 10:16 PM
While we have a thread on the subject, can we find some more pillocks who can't filter/ride?
Specialone
06-08-13, 10:18 PM
While we have a thread on the subject, can we find some more pillocks who can't filter/ride?
Dude, this forums servers arent big enough lol, there are too many :p
Matt-EUC
06-08-13, 10:19 PM
Just a couple? Just for me?
Specialone
06-08-13, 10:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aoaocQz6Po
Not checked for bad language.
Matt-EUC
06-08-13, 10:37 PM
Wtf was he trying to do?
Specialone
06-08-13, 10:52 PM
No idea lol
In that other vid a fair bit of it is true, but he just makes it come across like absolute ****, his manner is just hilarious
Fallout
06-08-13, 11:29 PM
Hahahaha! That burn out attempt! I WILL NOT GIVE UP!
Red Herring
07-08-13, 08:45 AM
I have a new found respect for CBR600s, they clearly have bullet proof clutches! The end has also restored my faith in the rule of natural justice.
get your fill with this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz5GY6t4_zU
some cruiser `tards
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Envy2SwDDpE
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