Pointy complete electrical failure.

[Daniel Louis]

Evening All,

I came out from work tonight and tried to start the bike. Nothing. It's a 2012 pointy.

Tried all the obvious, kill switch, battery terminals etc and all seemed fine - but no lights on the dash and no 'pre-check' noises when I put the key in.

Had to call the recovery guy out in the end and he was stumped too. We checked all of the fuses and then connected a jump pack to the bike and then directly to the van with leads and again, nothing.

Anyone got any ideas? He said it could be the ECU but even then he would expect some dash lights and we couldn't get anything from it. Tried bump starting it too.

Oh well. I have an SV in the garage which right now is useless, so any tips would be great.

Thanks.
Dan

[Sid Squid]

Have you checked the main fuse? It's on the solenoid, not in the box with the others.
If you already did, then check ignition switch connector, continuity across solenoid input/output and from there to ignition switch connector on loom.

[JLeo]

I had the same problem and it was a broken wire between the ignition and the main loom. Gave it a poke and I was away

[chris c]

I had this and it was a duff battery with a shot cell! but my battery was 6 years old, it had 12v with a volt meter but died once you put it under any load

[Owenski]

2012 Pointy?
Does it still have warrenty cover?

[Daniel Louis]

Hi All,

Thanks for the tips - i'm going to spend a bit of time with it tonight but yeah, the main fuse was ok and he checked all the others - but i'm going to check them myself tonight.

Hopefully it'll be under warranty whatever the issue is - it's booked into West London Suzuki on Friday. Until then, i'm back on the joys of public transport!

An hour stood in central London in leather waiting for him meant I must have lost half my body weight in sweat!

[Red Herring]

I had this on mine, three stages from the end of a rally. Turned out the main positive lead to the battery had fractured where it had been crimped to the terminal. I couldn't even get to it at the time without tools, which of course I don't carry, so I got timed out! You can bet it's well soldered now!

[Shawthing]

check ignition switch connector.

I had the same problem and it was a broken wire between the ignition and the main loom. Gave it a poke and I was away


Yep . Sounds like the 'Green Connector' strikes again!

Search 'green connector' for info.

[Purity14]

I know this will sound stupid.
I rode for 8 hours in solid rain.
When i got home and turned off my bike, and attempted to start it 20 mins later it was dead.
No lights no dash no sounds just dead.
I checked 30amp fuse and it was okay.
I checked other fuses..
I removed fuel pump fuse which had blown.. Replaced it and the bike fired up straight away no problem.

Very strange, but worth checking.

[Sid Squid]

Hmmm... That is odd. However I don't think it's the problem Daniel has, as the failure of that fuse stops the engine running, but would not account for a complete electrical failure such as Daniel has experienced.

[Purity14]

Mine is an 08 pointy, for reference.
But for me when the fuel pump fuse was blown, not even my dash comes on.
The background light of the dash comes on, but no digits on the screen, for example.

But any suggestion is better than none, so check that fuse :)

[Daniel Louis]

Thanks all - really appreciate all your help. I'll have a look at all fuses tonight out of interest as he only checked the ignition fuse and the main fuse.

Annoyingly, £22 quid in petrol was spent on Monday too - getting me to work all week - and so far i've spent £40 on train fares to London!

[Daniel Louis]

Turns out it was something which blew/melted in the ignition barrel. They're replacing it under warranty with a new barrel and lock set being fitted. I'll find out more when I collect it tomorrow.

[Shawthing]

Find out if it was inside the ignition barrel body or the ignition barrel Connector. Ask to see the part taken off and inspect the green connector's contacts.
I say this from experience that if it is the Connector which went Open circuit/melted then the Bike's Loom Connector could have been affected also. If the bike's loom connector contacts are damaged then this fault could easily occur again.
Changing a lock set is one thing but replacing a loom is another!