SV650S exorcism

[T0mmyGun92]

Now, I'm not usually a paranoid or superstitious, but I genuinely believe that my bike is possessed and is trying to kill me periodically!

I bought my bike back in April 2011, almost 3 months later I got T-boned by someone on a mini roundabout that didn't look before they pulled out. Was injured and unable to ride for 2 years. Finally managed to get back on it again back in June, and then again, almost 3 months after I got back on it give or take a week from the time spent riding the first time, I was knocked off again. This time I was taken out by a woman pulling in on top of me without looking if it was clearly so I was wedged in between her car and the kerb, hit her mirror and sent flying down the dual carriageway.

The fact that this is my 4th bike - I never had any accidents on my first 3, and passed my bike test with no minors whatsoever on either part of the test, I think I can safely say I am a fair rider - I do genuinely believe that my beloved bike is under the control of satan. Anybody here know the ritual for performing an exorcism on a motorbike?? It would be greatly appreciated :) (i might have to ask my local church if I can have some holy water to fill up my radiator)

[Bibio]

you have to pizz on it to show it who's boss :-)

[Jayneflakes]

I can bless your bike for you, I am a real vicar and everythink! :smt047

I blessed the fish tank at work a while back and all of the fish lived after that.

I would suggest that you check out this film (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097550/) for tips on this how to deal with this problem. :smt077

Alternatively, have a chat with your local advanced riding instructor or Police training person. :riding:

[keith_d]

I can bless your bike for you, I am a real vicar and everythink! :smt047

I blessed the fish tank at work a while back and all of the fish lived after that.

I would suggest that you check out this film (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097550/) for tips on this how to deal with this problem. :smt077

Alternatively, have a chat with your local advanced riding instructor or Police training person. :riding:

All that, and stop trusting the f***ers in the metal boxes. When I was learning to ride the instructor explained this in simple terms, "There are two kinds of motorists in the world. Those that are trying to kill you, and those that haven't seen you yet."

[T0mmyGun92]

You could not be more right! (apart from pizzing on it :P)
I never trusted the caged animals on the road anyway! they can see about as much as a shrew with blinkers on!!

[Bibio]

"There is only one kind of motorist in the world and they are all trying to kill you"
there sorted.

every single other road user is a threat, yes even other motorcyclists. this also includes your riding buddies.

look up and look around, the further you look the more your brain has a chance of prediction. narrow vision will get you killed.

[orose]

I'll offer a slightly different correction...

"There are two kinds of motorists in the world. Those that are actively trying to kill you, and those that haven't seen you yet."

More seriously, I'll quote the good book at this point:

If you think that you did not help to cause a collision, you will also think that you have nothing to learn from it.

It sounds like you've had two right of way violation incidents, which are the most common form of collision. The trick to avoiding them is to see if there is a way to make yourself seen (or heard) in situations where there is this risk.

[chezvegas85]

:p Louder pipe, i have less issues with people pulling out now the baffle is out, a lot less than when the pipe was standard. still happens, but massive change in frequency.

Pc Plod did comment that it was missing the other day when i got pulled over for speeding though - poor obvs + excitement from a group of fellows pulling up behind me - but sadly his radar gun didn't 'lock' me, so was just a telling off.

[Juju]

:p Louder pipe, i have less issues with people pulling out now the baffle is out, a lot less than when the pipe was standard. still happens, but massive change in frequency.

Pc Plod did comment that it was missing the other day when i got pulled over for speeding though - poor obvs + excitement from a group of fellows pulling up behind me - but sadly his radar gun didn't 'lock' me, so was just a telling off.

And people like you are the bane of my life. I live in flats on a fairly busy road. Apart from the odd lorry/bus, the only serious noise intrusion I get is bikers, generally the idiots with loud pipes, or spotty teenagers with sad pipes on their 33mph scooters. On even a short journey, you might impact on the lives of thousands of people, just because, and frankly, "safety" is the last reason for self justification of a loud pipe, it gives you the personal horn. if you cant ride in a way thats safe for you, then dont just ruin everyone elses life by being a selfish ****, perhaps stop riding.

I have a quiet pipe, and I'm still alive after 13 years and 2 low speed non faults where proper anticipation of the dangers limited the damage.

I don't mean to sound overly agressive, but I know tomorrow is Sunday, and that from 8:30 onwards whilst I try for a lie in, all those born again bankers with their "screamin eagle stage 2's" will be doing the legal limit whist rocking the foundations of the flat on their way to Box Hill. About 2 hours later the weekend warriors with their low mileage blades will follow. And then they all go home between 4 and 6.....

You know, with all the self pitying, (as evidenced by the legal industry marketing to them), and the posturing, I really begin to hate "Bikers", rather than people who just happen to use a bike.

[Bibio]

ear plugs are cheep.

i like the sound of bikes giving it beans. i hear it all the time where i live. what bothers me more is the pizzhead brave brigade at 3am hammering ten bells out each other.

[chezvegas85]

sorry juju, but as bib said its easily rectifiable. i have a bypass near me with cars and bikes thrashing it at silly hours. much sillier than 8.30am. if i have a problem with it i shut the window (i thoroughly recommend double glazing). last justification? if that was true then my car would also need a loud backbox, otherwise it would not be drive-able. if its the crack of dawn or late at night i dont exactly pin it, not deafening at normal revs. in fact i live at the bottom of a hill, when i reach the top of my road i flick the engine kill switch and cruise down on neutral if its late at night.

My recommendation to you would be to not associate with any anti social lout who might actually enjoy motorcycles as a past time, rather than just owning them purely for commuting purposes. Good luck with that

[Juju]

sorry juju, but as bib said its easily rectifiable. i have a bypass near me with cars and bikes thrashing it at silly hours. much sillier than 8.30am. if i have a problem with it i shut the window (i thoroughly recommend double glazing). last justification? if that was true then my car would also need a loud backbox, otherwise it would not be drive-able. if its the crack of dawn or late at night i dont exactly pin it, not deafening at normal revs. in fact i live at the bottom of a hill, when i reach the top of my road i flick the engine kill switch and cruise down on neutral if its late at night.

My recommendation to you would be to not associate with any anti social lout who might actually enjoy motorcycles as a past time, rather than just owning them purely for commuting purposes. Good luck with that

Well two things there. So, its rectifiable for anyone living on a busy road, that they should wear earplugs, all night, and every night, for the odd motorist (and your still one of them") who decides the law isn't for them in terms of vehicle noise limits? Sorry, if you think thats acceptable, your just selfish. So imagine theres something I enjoy, thats relatively antisocial like, say shooting. It's ok to do it outside your home, just because you could wear earplugs? Get a grip! Theres a limit to double glazing abilities, and in my short 300m bit of roadwoay on the A25 theres hundreds of people in flats and houses alone, who are "noise victims".

Secondly, I'm glad you think I should choose my friends based on a totally limited and somewhat factional view of their interests. To be honest I'm just a little deeper than that. Indeed, I only have 1 friend who has any interest in bikes. The fact I use it for commuting isn't to be sneered at either, it is after all a form of transport, before becoming part of a virility enhancing regime, and that I can probably **** off fewer people in 12k a year with a quiet pipe and anticipating other road users to avoid accidents, than you do in 3k isn't reason for celebration.

So, was your summary I insist my landlord fits better d/g, and I sleep in earlplugs, because you can't ride in a way that makes motorists notice you before they hit you, and that I should only have friends who are "Bikers" rather than for the myriad of unlimited other ways they bring joy to my life?

Weird thinking...

[DarrenSV650S]

And people like you are the bane of my life. I live in flats on a fairly busy road. Apart from the odd lorry/bus, the only serious noise intrusion I get is bikers, generally the idiots with loud pipes, or spotty teenagers with sad pipes on their 33mph scooters. On even a short journey, you might impact on the lives of thousands of people, just because, and frankly, "safety" is the last reason for self justification of a loud pipe, it gives you the personal horn. if you cant ride in a way thats safe for you, then dont just ruin everyone elses life by being a selfish ****, perhaps stop riding.

I have a quiet pipe, and I'm still alive after 13 years and 2 low speed non faults where proper anticipation of the dangers limited the damage.

I don't mean to sound overly agressive, but I know tomorrow is Sunday, and that from 8:30 onwards whilst I try for a lie in, all those born again bankers with their "screamin eagle stage 2's" will be doing the legal limit whist rocking the foundations of the flat on their way to Box Hill. About 2 hours later the weekend warriors with their low mileage blades will follow. And then they all go home between 4 and 6.....

You know, with all the self pitying, (as evidenced by the legal industry marketing to them), and the posturing, I really begin to hate "Bikers", rather than people who just happen to use a bike.

I would say you are the selfish ****

Move to a quiet area away from main roads. I bet you will still find something to bitch about. Here's a newsflash: nobody gives a f*** about what you think

[rb8989]

And people like you are the bane of my life. I live in flats on a fairly busy road. Apart from the odd lorry/bus, the only serious noise intrusion I get is bikers, generally the idiots with loud pipes, or spotty teenagers with sad pipes on their 33mph scooters. On even a short journey, you might impact on the lives of thousands of people, just because, and frankly, "safety" is the last reason for self justification of a loud pipe, it gives you the personal horn. if you cant ride in a way thats safe for you, then dont just ruin everyone elses life by being a selfish ****, perhaps stop riding.

I have a quiet pipe, and I'm still alive after 13 years and 2 low speed non faults where proper anticipation of the dangers limited the damage.

I don't mean to sound overly agressive, but I know tomorrow is Sunday, and that from 8:30 onwards whilst I try for a lie in, all those born again bankers with their "screamin eagle stage 2's" will be doing the legal limit whist rocking the foundations of the flat on their way to Box Hill. About 2 hours later the weekend warriors with their low mileage blades will follow. And then they all go home between 4 and 6.....

You know, with all the self pitying, (as evidenced by the legal industry marketing to them), and the posturing, I really begin to hate "Bikers", rather than people who just happen to use a bike.

Get a grip.

I hear loud cars, I hear loud bikes, I hear planes taking off from southend airport at all hours, I hear loud kids twice every weekday going to and from the school opposite, I hear foxes going at it, I hear the MOD testing bombs, I hear foghorns from the thames shipping lanes on foggy nights.

I don't care, I chose live in a populated seaside town, perhaps you should live in the woods, though the birds might keep you awake, the selfish ****s :D

[chezvegas85]

lets just say you win, i'm not going to play trolls further with you.

[chezvegas85]

Get a grip.

I hear loud cars, I hear loud bikes, I hear planes taking off from southend airport at all hours, I hear loud kids twice every weekday going to and from the school opposite, I hear foxes going at it, I hear the MOD testing bombs, I hear foghorns from the thames shipping lanes on foggy nights.

I don't care, I chose live in a populated seaside town, perhaps you should live in the woods, though the birds might keep you awake, the selfish ****s :D

You sir, made me LOL

[Bibio]

in a way Juju is right. we should all pay more attention to our surroundings when on the bike and not have to resort to other means. i always get my jollys watching south parks episode where they change the meaning of 'Fag'.

i wear ear plugs every single night as 1. my wife snores like a good one. 2. i actually fall asleep quicker for some reason. 3. i cant hear azzholes outside.

so Juju, if things like loud pipes and noises bug you i take it your not married or have children?

unless you stay in the countryside away from main roads then everyone is a 'noise victim' it's just that some of us are prepared to put up with it. i was brought up in the very centre of Edinburgh with single glazed windows. i moved to Fife and found the quiet weird.

be tolerant of others and others will be tolerant of you.

ear plugs are the answer my friend.

[chezvegas85]

^^i bought a house near to a dual carriageway, my dads old house was near a busy A road. Always accepted it as you move into that area, it doesn't move into you. Unless there is major infrastructure change or you live there for 50 years i guess

[T0mmyGun92]

It sounds like you've had two right of way violation incidents, which are the most common form of collision. The trick to avoiding them is to see if there is a way to make yourself seen (or heard) in situations where there is this risk.

Orose, you are right. Both of my incidents have been right of way violation. First one, being t-boned on a mini roundabout as I was following a queue of traffic across which had the right of way. Driver merely didn't see me, riding 2's up (not sure how). Second was at a dodgy junction, if any of you wish to look it up and weigh in, its the junction where the A1094 meets the A12 in Suffolk. Single carriageway, with a junction joining from the right, through the central reservation, to create an outside lane and making it into a dual carriageway. Female car driver pulled out of junction into outside lane about 20m ahead of me (as I was doing just under 50mph, 50 being the limit and I had let go of the throttle as a safety precaution from seeing the junction), and when she was up to about 10mph approx. 15ft infront of me decided to pull in without checking if I was there and I anchored up as hard as possible but in 15 ft you are not going to slow down enough for that and i was forced in between her car and the kerb then thrown off when i clipped her wing mirror. Short of having been driving like a lout and driving across the hashed section to get into the outside lane before it had started, still being in the hope that she'd pull in, or having been doing significantly lower than the speed limit, or simply not being there at all, there was not much I could have done to avoid this accident. I drive the torquoise sv, obviously lights on as it is a permanent feature, so bike itself noticeable. I was also wearing a white helmet, and a brand new hein gericke high vis sheltex jacket (couldn't make myself more noticeable without wearing lights on myself). She told me she had seen me, she just had a poor judgement of speed and distance and pulled off without properly checking that it was clear to do so. Typically like the "take longer to look for bikes" advert on the tele.

I do also have a loud can on my bike, as I do, as many others do, believe it to be a safety feature. I drive a car and motorbike, apart from the little 125's like the cbf125, I normally notice a bike is near from having heard it, which alerts me to look around for where it is. And before you start trying to say that means I am not observant enough when I am driving, let me stop you now. No minors when taking either part of the bike test, and only 3 minors on the car. The car examiner actually commented that I am "too observant" when driving. This having come from being a biker first and I naturally check my mirrors very often and even do my life saver checks whilst I am in the car, even as a passenger! it has become a force of habit now!! So Juru, before you come in here trying to tell everyone that they are wrong and it is a last resort then take your head out of your hind quarters and stop being so stuck up. Anything that can be done to improve the safety of a rider is a positive, even if it means you can't have as much of a lie in as you'd like. Yes there should be a limit, we can't all ride around bouncing it off the rev limiter all the time. We have to be considerate to those around us. If we have to ride late at night or early in the morning, just put the baffle back in, simple 20 second fix. I live in an area where any long road is used as a drag strip by any pre pubescent moron who has borrowed their friend's monkey bike, or ped with no can, or more commonly, stolen the bike they are on. I however will keep my revs as low as possible to keep the volume as low as possible when I am driving around the close residential area, and if it is very late, do as others have said on this thread and hit the kill switch and let it coast in to satirize the provado of people like you who look down their nose at everyone who doesn't follow the same beliefs as you. You are using the term "biker" as a far too broad term; you are combining together everyone that uses a bike, either as a way of life, a hobby, a mode of transport and those out there who just want to mess around and think they are cool for doing it. There is a difference between the jubilant riders who use a bike for commuting and as a way of life, and those who are just out to be annoying. Don't just join a thread like this and try to start ragging on everyone who uses a bike. You may think bikers are the bane of your life, but you have joined a motorbike forum and are being a PITA to everyone here who has joined it because they enjoy motorbikes.

P.S. just to be a grammar nazi, please learn the difference between your and you're.

[disco2]

Get a grip.

I hear loud cars, I hear loud bikes, I hear planes taking off from southend airport at all hours, I hear loud kids twice every weekday going to and from the school opposite, I hear foxes going at it, I hear the MOD testing bombs, I hear foghorns from the thames shipping lanes on foggy nights.

I don't care, I chose live in a populated seaside town, perhaps you should live in the woods, though the birds might keep you awake, the selfish ****s :D

HOW DARE YOU
Forget the police helicopters hovering about, the Ambulances, police cars, and the loud car stereos going boom boom tich oh and shazzer giving dave a piece of here tiny mind after a skin full.

I to love living in this sea side town of ours :cheers::cheers:

[Bibio]

i'm still saying pizz on it :-)

[rb8989]

HOW DARE YOU
Forget the police helicopters hovering about, the Ambulances, police cars, and the loud car stereos going boom boom tich oh and shazzer giving dave a piece of here tiny mind after a skin full.

I to love living in this sea side town of ours :cheers::cheers:

Haha yeah shazzer and dave having a nice punch up at 4 am, gotta love it!

[ChrisCurvyS]

Can see both sides here. I live in an old cottage on a busy NSL road and while i accept traffic noise as a fact of life and love watching bikes go past on a Sunday afternoon, i dget woken up at 3am sometimes by someone revving the nuts off a screaming 4 cyl with a straight through exhaust. But then i may well have ****ed people off on the sv without meaning to - would hate to be stuck with a standard exhaust.

[SvNewbie]

I live on one of the main roads through West London. Within a mile or two of the Ace Cafe. I quite enjoy hearing the odd biker wringing it out at 1am. Certainly better than the buses, lorries, helicopters, heathrow air traffic, police, ambulance, fire engines and crazy neighbors screaming at each other.

[rapidgaz]

What about the possessed bike. Any1
Lol

[Owenski]

Juju,
I think you make a valid point. "some" bikers can be tackless *****s revving the redline everywhere they go, too busy thinking "how awesome my pipe sounds" to have any regard for those they disturb. I cannot defend that mentality, but as has been stated; you moved the to area, the area didn't move to you and if it bothers you that much move away.
However, my bone is not with your displeasure what angered me about your post is that for you to abstain from owning a pipe on the belief your riding is sufficient enough to protect you from incident is fair enough you're entitled to make your life as hard as you can for your self, but to attack those who feel the benifit of a louder than stock system is pig ignorant.

Yes I have had obscenely loud exhausts in the past, those at AR11 will testify to the pipe on the DRZ however I currently sport a stock system on the gsr750, that thing is whisper quiet. While riding the gsr having rode the drz the difference in city traffic is so face slappingly obvious I am currently DESPERATE to sort a pipe out for the gsr.
On the drz 3 or 4 car lengths in-front drivers could be seen looking in their mirrors and often moving over to allow me through. It practically felt like I rode with a siren on the way people reacted. This is of course a heightened exaggeration based on me now riding the gsr where I am far too frequently seeing cars remain static in their positioning right up until the point I'm along side only then do they turn towards the kerb.
Your distaste for a loud can is your own choice, you're perfectly entitled to it as well. Personally however I have seen both sides of the table and the safety gained from a louder can is for me indisputable. Similarly I favor the use of a hi-viz when city riding, I've ridden with and without a vest and on days I've forgotten to put it on or when I've been a total dunce and worn a rain jacket OVER my hi-viz I can see without question the difference in awareness of other road users.

IMO it is simple; Biking comes with risks, if you can reduce those risks in anyway possible by making decisions which make you safer then you're a frigging idiot for not grabbing those with both hands shoving them down your boxer shorts and ferociously ****ing them until they produce you another litter of tiny safety babies.

[granty92]

i love the noise of my bike :) it gets the attention when its needed and im also able to ride at low revs and it is reasonably quiet :) i dont believe every person with a loud exhaust is a **** except the very few who happily roll round in first gear screaming the nuts of the bike. juju i believe you need lots and lots of chill pills