View Full Version : New member, 3 SV's, all somewhat different!
agent wayward
11-09-13, 10:23 AM
Hi all,
I have built this one:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/384675_546502932058743_1824303245_n.jpg
It's a '99 curvy faired bike, modded and fitted up with a modified Ural sidecar. (I make sidecars for a living). The bike has various mods, zx6r Maxton shock, maxton forks etc.
I also built this (finished next week) out of a spare SV pointy naked, it'll be my winter bike.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/v/1368915_10151587443106417_146638526_n.jpg?oh=2facf e3da9756bd7a8910f05c3cb7a07&oe=5232153C&__gda__=1379083777_015016f28d695ca74cf4f6cada429b9 b
Rear end chopped, Supertrapp exhaust, flat bars, all unneccessary parts removed.
I also have a spare faired curvy in the shed which hasn't been attacked just yet, I've borrowed a few parts of it mind you. :)
coopesh56
11-09-13, 10:28 AM
Welcome mate!
That sidecar outfit looks mint!!
granty92
11-09-13, 10:38 AM
well definately not seen a sv650 sidecar, looks awesome though :) welcome
Redmist
11-09-13, 12:25 PM
Very nice, liking the winter hack
Roberrrrt
11-09-13, 12:53 PM
Nice! Great SV's you've got there
nikon70
11-09-13, 01:25 PM
Welcome and WOW nice bikes!
is that your workshop too ?
SvNewbie
11-09-13, 03:11 PM
I demand more workshop porn! :)
That sidecar outfit is a classic!
agent wayward
11-09-13, 03:26 PM
Thanks all,
the workshop is my company's. I make sidecars for a living. I won't mention the name.
It's a great place to work on bikes, big workshop building, seperate welding / fabrication room, big assembly / clean room and the machine room in the pic. Lots of great kit, lathe, bandsaw, chop saw, drills, tube benders etc.
I'd never seen an SV650 sidecar so it just had to be done, as it turns out, it's a truly great outfit. Lots of fun.
Looking forward to getting the pointy hack on the road next week.
Thanks all,
the workshop is my company's. I make sidecars for a living. I won't mention the name.
go on. we all want to know :D
for the record i love combinations and trikes :love:
Nice to see something different, the SV bobber looks well!
andrewsmith
11-09-13, 06:41 PM
Nice!!
A) more pictures of the URAL sidecar
B) I could have some fun with quotes from you *evil thoughts*
and finally... HOW DOO!!! :D
Hello and welcome!
Both bikes get my approval, which incidentally is worth nowt lol. :cool:
garynortheast
11-09-13, 07:56 PM
Very nice too. I particularly like that outfit. A bit tidier than the combo I used to ride.
agent wayward
11-09-13, 08:41 PM
Another shot of the outfit.
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Owenski
12-09-13, 10:38 AM
Awesome!
Welcome to the forum. Anyone who terms a bike as a "spare" is going to go down well with me!
We all need spare bikes :)
So, Maxton suspension on a bike with a side car, and a tiny rear light and no mudguard on the winter bike?
You sir, are entertainingly mental.
You'll fit right in, welcome :)
Jambo
Edit: I looked at the sidecar outfit for about a second thinking "there's no front left indicator on that bike... Oh, wait"!
atassiedevil
12-09-13, 04:09 PM
Thats cool and lovely to see.
Had a couple of outfits in my time, always lots of fun.
Nice to see an SV with a chair for once.
Mark-SV-UK
15-09-13, 05:15 PM
I can only see one pic but title says 3 sv's all different. looks good though the pic I can see that is :-)
agent wayward
16-09-13, 09:31 AM
I can only see one pic but title says 3 sv's all different. looks good though the pic I can see that is :-)
Can you not see the two large pics on the first post then?
:confused:
Can you not see the two large pics on the first post then?
:confused:
nope :(
agent wayward
16-09-13, 11:06 AM
nope :(
Damn!
ChrisCurvyS
16-09-13, 12:06 PM
I looked into getting a sidecar for the dog to go in (she'd love it, she's a proper bike nut) but they seemed prohibitively expensive, even second hand. It's probably due to their rarity these days - I also couldn't see any that were easily detachable.
If you ever come to sell that thing, be sure to mention it on here. :-)
agent wayward
16-09-13, 12:14 PM
I looked into getting a sidecar for the dog to go in (she'd love it, she's a proper bike nut) but they seemed prohibitively expensive, even second hand. It's probably due to their rarity these days - I also couldn't see any that were easily detachable.
If you ever come to sell that thing, be sure to mention it on here. :-)
I prefer "reassuringly expensive". :)
I make sidecars for a living, the sidecar industry, such as it is, consists of very small companies, such as mine, not many of them, and they make tiny quantities. This means they are all hand made, making them expensive.
Easily detachable is often requested. However, whilst my sidecars detach with 4 fixings, you don't want it to be too easy, since "accidentally detachable" can be alarming. Also, once they've learned how to ride a sidecar properly, very few people are interested in riding solo again.
The SV in the pic is my demo, as such it's for sale. I've been offered £5k for it, but didn't accept as I'd literally only just finished it and wanted to ride it a bit first. :)
an interesting idea you could have that would set you apart from the rest is a side car for disabled.
take your sidecar design then add a hinge so you can lift the front up and out the way to leave easy access to the chair. my wife is paralysed down her left hand side so cant 'hop' into a sidecar or 'climb' onto a trike/bike.
agent wayward
16-09-13, 12:47 PM
an interesting idea you could have that would set you apart from the rest is a side car for disabled.
take your sidecar design then add a hinge so you can lift the front up and out the way to leave easy access to the chair. my wife is paralysed down her left hand side so cant 'hop' into a sidecar or 'climb' onto a trike/bike.
I have built many sidecars for disabled passengers and riders. I'm about to begin a custom disabled sidecar outfit, based on a Sunbeam S7 Deluxe, which will be piloted from the sidecar on the right hand side of the bike.
Here's one I made earlier for a powered wheelchair user: (apologies for non SV'ness)
http://www.motorcycle-sidecar.co.uk/gallery/Treble%20Express%201/images/atsa00002.jpg
seriously :-) is that even legal.
that would be funny as feck to ride and would make a lot of people take a second look :-)
agent wayward
16-09-13, 01:04 PM
Seriously. And yes, it's 100% legal. And reassuringly expensive.
:)
andrewsmith
16-09-13, 01:07 PM
"accidentally detachable" can be alarming. Also, once they've learned how to ride a sidecar properly, very few people are interested in riding solo again.
What like so ;)
http://youtu.be/dy9QeosTh7w
dy9QeosTh7w
agent wayward
16-09-13, 01:12 PM
What like so ;)
Similar.
In general, I like to use more than one loose fitting jiggle pin and I enforce a strict "no sheep" policy. :)
ChrisCurvyS
16-09-13, 02:17 PM
I prefer "reassuringly expensive". :)
I make sidecars for a living, the sidecar industry, such as it is, consists of very small companies, such as mine, not many of them, and they make tiny quantities. This means they are all hand made, making them expensive.
Easily detachable is often requested. However, whilst my sidecars detach with 4 fixings, you don't want it to be too easy, since "accidentally detachable" can be alarming. Also, once they've learned how to ride a sidecar properly, very few people are interested in riding solo again.
The SV in the pic is my demo, as such it's for sale. I've been offered £5k for it, but didn't accept as I'd literally only just finished it and wanted to ride it a bit first. :)
Ha - at least you could take comfort from the fact that the reassuring expense goes towards proper old-fashioned craftsmanship. Have you ever made a dog-specifc sidecar?!
Interesting comment re sidecar users never going back to two wheels - riding one is quite an art form isn't it? Remind me - they understeer in right-handers and tip the sidecar in left-handers and you have to steer a little to the right in a straight line to keep true?
agent wayward
16-09-13, 02:37 PM
Ha - at least you could take comfort from the fact that the reassuring expense goes towards proper old-fashioned craftsmanship. Have you ever made a dog-specifc sidecar?!
Interesting comment re sidecar users never going back to two wheels - riding one is quite an art form isn't it? Remind me - they understeer in right-handers and tip the sidecar in left-handers and you have to steer a little to the right in a straight line to keep true?
Around 25% of my customers primarily want a sidecar for their dog. They have all selected an adaption of an existing model so far.
Riding a sidecar is technically far more difficult and more challenging than riding a solo. Most people can ride a solo reasonably well after a day or so of training and practice. To be proficient at riding a sidecar takes most people a few months. Longer if they have been solo riders for a long time.
Most people talk a load of nonsense about sidecar riding, based upon their mate's experience from the pub, who rode one once and hit a tree. Presumably without any training and on a badly setup outfit.
Sidecars take left or right hand corners equally well and extremely quickly if required, without understeer or lifting the chair, if you know how to ride them. A sidecar is steered on the throttle and to a lesser extent, the brakes. A sidecar with a braked sidecar wheel can also use that to steer.
Basically, approach a left hander slower than you want to go around it, then wind the throttle open as you go around the corner. The more throttle, the faster you will turn and the less sidecar lift or lightness.
Right handers. Approach the bend fast, then decellerate or brake, depending upon how quickly you want to corner.
Alternatively, power through a right hander and drift the outfit around the corner, balancing the throttle against the steering. Roadabouts are fun. :)
In a straight line, a sidecar should track completely straight, on an average road. Roads with adverse camber will cause them to pull to one side.
It's nothing like a solo. Or a quad. Or any other vehicle. But it is fun. :)
atassiedevil
16-09-13, 02:40 PM
TOTALLY agree.
I had an outfit for a couple of years. They can be very very rapid in the right hands.
Sidecars take left or right hand corners equally well and extremely quickly if required, without understeer or lifting the chair, if you know how to ride them. A sidecar is steered on the throttle and to a lesser extent, the brakes. A sidecar with a braked sidecar wheel can also use that to steer.
Basically, approach a left hander slower than you want to go around it, then wind the throttle open as you go around the corner. The more throttle, the faster you will turn and the less sidecar lift or lightness.
Right handers. Approach the bend fast, then decellerate or brake, depending upon how quickly you want to corner.
Alternatively, power through a right hander and drift the outfit around the corner, balancing the throttle against the steering. Roadabouts are fun. :)
In a straight line, a sidecar should track completely straight, on an average road. Roads with adverse camber will cause them to pull to one side.
It's nothing like a solo. Or a quad. Or any other vehicle. But it is fun. :)
andrewsmith
16-09-13, 04:11 PM
Around 25% of my customers primarily want a sidecar for their dog. They have all selected an adaption of an existing model so far.
Riding a sidecar is technically far more difficult and more challenging than riding a solo. Most people can ride a solo reasonably well after a day or so of training and practice. To be proficient at riding a sidecar takes most people a few months. Longer if they have been solo riders for a long time.
Most people talk a load of nonsense about sidecar riding, based upon their mate's experience from the pub, who rode one once and hit a tree. Presumably without any training and on a badly setup outfit.
Sidecars take left or right hand corners equally well and extremely quickly if required, without understeer or lifting the chair, if you know how to ride them. A sidecar is steered on the throttle and to a lesser extent, the brakes. A sidecar with a braked sidecar wheel can also use that to steer.
Basically, approach a left hander slower than you want to go around it, then wind the throttle open as you go around the corner. The more throttle, the faster you will turn and the less sidecar lift or lightness.
Right handers. Approach the bend fast, then decellerate or brake, depending upon how quickly you want to corner.
Alternatively, power through a right hander and drift the outfit around the corner, balancing the throttle against the steering. Roadabouts are fun. :)
In a straight line, a sidecar should track completely straight, on an average road. Roads with adverse camber will cause them to pull to one side.
It's nothing like a solo. Or a quad. Or any other vehicle. But it is fun. :)
Been on the chair in a F2 racing sidecar and totally agree with that principle. Granted thats with a 140 brake and 220+ wide racing slicks on it
I can't see the 2nd pic (if it a Facebook link?) but the rising sun bike and sidey look awesome :D
Tommo1988
16-09-13, 10:24 PM
I've actually fully perved at this machine whilst attending a course at RAF Base near you, love it, surprised me when I opened this thread.
ChrisCurvyS
17-09-13, 10:23 AM
That sounds fascinating and something I'd certainly like to try. Feel like I've learnt most of what there is to learn about two-wheelers now so I'd like a new challenge.
I'd have to keep reminding myself not to filter though - unless you make a retractable sidcar?!
I take it existing bikers take longer to learn because they're used to steering the opposite way round?
I have built many sidecars for disabled passengers and riders. I'm about to begin a custom disabled sidecar outfit, based on a Sunbeam S7 Deluxe, which will be piloted from the sidecar on the right hand side of the bike.
Here's one I made earlier for a powered wheelchair user: (apologies for non SV'ness)
http://www.motorcycle-sidecar.co.uk/gallery/Treble%20Express%201/images/atsa00002.jpg
No need for an apology, most of us on here have a Triumph now anyway :mrgreen:
agent wayward
18-09-13, 07:32 AM
I've actually fully perved at this machine whilst attending a course at RAF Base near you, love it, surprised me when I opened this thread.
You'll have walked past my house on the way to the pub then!
agent wayward
18-09-13, 07:34 AM
That sounds fascinating and something I'd certainly like to try. Feel like I've learnt most of what there is to learn about two-wheelers now so I'd like a new challenge.
I'd have to keep reminding myself not to filter though - unless you make a retractable sidcar?!
I take it existing bikers take longer to learn because they're used to steering the opposite way round?
You wouldn't regret it.
Filtering is still possible to a degree, an outfit is incredibly manoeverable and traffic parts like the red sea when it sees you coming.
Existing bikers have a huge set of beliefs, none of which are true on an outfit. These need to be broken down. It can take a while.
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