View Full Version : Obliterated tyre, causes?
Matt-EUC
29-09-13, 04:09 PM
Is this age related or should I lay off the right wrist action?
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lay off the straight roads. Quite concerning how close those threads are to the rubber surface looking at the wear markers.
Was the tyre being run with the correct PSI in it?
Matt-EUC
29-09-13, 04:14 PM
That's what I thought. When I left this morning I had about 0.5mm over the wear indicators and thought "oh these'll be fine for another 500 miles..."
70 miles later they were like this, stranded in the middle of butt f*ck nowhere. (Marlborough in Wiltshire outside a pub)
andrewsmith
29-09-13, 04:23 PM
The last bit of the tyre is softer than the main body. The bit before the canvas is moulding rubber.
Pirelli's are bad for it
sent from the shredded wheat factory
Matt-EUC
29-09-13, 04:24 PM
Moral of this story, don't buy cheap continentals! I'm looking at you bike hire company!!!
Teejayexc
29-09-13, 05:56 PM
Don't want/need to know about yer wrist action, :toss:, but perhaps laying off the right foot action may help too :smt102
Fallout
29-09-13, 07:03 PM
PSI maybe too high. I would expect that wear to be over a larger surface area.
Matt-EUC
29-09-13, 07:43 PM
Not really my responsibility Simon. The hire company should've given me a bike with more than two weeks worth of tyre on it. I told them how many miles I do in a week. The tyre pressure should also have been checked before they gave me the bike.
Sid Squid
29-09-13, 07:43 PM
Nothing wrong with Continental tyres, that one is knackered however, but it really doesn't look like normal wear to me. I suspect either a manufacturing fault, or damage from prior running at the wrong pressure.
Matt-EUC
29-09-13, 07:45 PM
Don't want/need to know about yer wrist action, :toss:, but perhaps laying off the right foot action may help too :smt102
I only really use the back brake at low speed and to shave off little bits of speed during corners.
wideguy
29-09-13, 09:14 PM
The cords are showing, meaning there's no rubber left. It isn't a tire anymore it's a ruined carcass. The rubber around the cords is sheared from hard acceleration. Never figure on getting much mileage out of a tire after it's down to the wear bars, and if you get on the throttle while upright with a tire like that , you'll get what you got, or worse. Catastrophic failure is just around the corner.
Not really my responsibility Simon. The hire company should've given me a bike with more than two weeks worth of tyre on it. I told them how many miles I do in a week. The tyre pressure should also have been checked before they gave me the bike.
Do you not check your tyre pressures regularly? Just because it is a hire bike doesn't mean you don't need to check the tyre pressures. What if you had a puncture, would you blame them too?
Matt-EUC
29-09-13, 09:19 PM
When I got on the bike this morning, the tyre looked ok. I didn't think a 70 mile ride would cause such slaughterage of the tyre. I've run tyres lower than that before and haven't even come close to this. Do you think it might be cause by age? I have no idea how old the tyre is, it's a hire bike.
Matt-EUC
29-09-13, 09:22 PM
Do you not check your tyre pressures regularly? Just because it is a hire bike doesn't mean you don't need to check the tyre pressures. What if you had a puncture, would you blame them too?
I do check on a weekly basis. They were fine. I look at the tyre every time I get off the bike to see how awesome I am as well.
The point I was trying to make was that the bike should have been fit for purpose when they gave it to me. I shouldn't have to do maintenance on a hire bike.
:rolleyes:Maybe it was fit for purpose and you have been doing burnouts you aren't telling us about!
Matt-EUC
29-09-13, 09:32 PM
:smt083
It looks like somethings been catching on it? If its a hire then chances are the odd plum or two are doing donuts, burnouts and other jappery just before returning it
Matt-EUC
29-09-13, 10:37 PM
It looks like somethings been catching on it? If its a hire then chances are the odd plum or two are doing donuts, burnouts and other jappery just before returning it
That's exactly what I had planned to do.
Matt-EUC
29-09-13, 10:39 PM
Just as a side note. Does anyone see any chicken strips??
Me either.
Seriously? You were going to trash the tyres before returning? And you wonder why they are in the state they are? Not sure if your joking or not, if not......plum
Matt-EUC
30-09-13, 06:35 AM
No mate, I was joking.
I do check on a weekly basis. They were fine. I look at the tyre every time I get off the bike to see how awesome I am as well.
The point I was trying to make was that the bike should have been fit for purpose when they gave it to me. I shouldn't have to do maintenance on a hire bike.
the road worthiness of a vehicle is down to the driver, if you own the vehicle or not. It is up to the driver to ensure the vehicle is safe/fit to be on the road. IIRC for an illegal tyre its 3 points and fine.
Matt-EUC
30-09-13, 07:18 AM
These are things I know Job. I checked it on Saturday and phoned the hire company informing them how low the tyre was. I did not, however, expect it to get trashed so fast.
I did not ride the bike at all once I'd seen the tyre.
Furry muff. As a side note do you hire to try before you buy? Is it expensive?
Matt-EUC
30-09-13, 04:23 PM
It's a courtesy bike.
Ah ok, yours stuffed?
A van tried to mate with it
Not really my responsibility Simon. The hire company should've given me a bike with more than two weeks worth of tyre on it. I told them how many miles I do in a week. The tyre pressure should also have been checked before they gave me the bike.
I do check on a weekly basis. They were fine. I look at the tyre every time I get off the bike to see how awesome I am as well.
The point I was trying to make was that the bike should have been fit for purpose when they gave it to me. I shouldn't have to do maintenance on a hire bike.
These are things I know Job. I checked it on Saturday and phoned the hire company informing them how low the tyre was. I did not, however, expect it to get trashed so fast.
I did not ride the bike at all once I'd seen the tyre.
You may know them, however you say yourself 'you do not expect to do maintenance' on a hire bike as it should have been fit for purpose when delivered. Bulbs can blow at any point, tyre pressures are always changing & faults to develop. They would expect you to top it up with oil if required. What t's & c's came with the bike?
Dicky Ticker
30-09-13, 06:26 PM
Sorry Matt but it is still your license that would suffer the pain. You are responsible for the condition of your tyres on any vehicle you are driving or riding, even as an employed driver be it a company vehicle or hire.
True about the soft rubber at the end and it unfortunately catches many out. Wear markers are often on the extreme limit just before the soft rubber, but it varies brand to brand.
I don't know what the outcome of your experience was but I would have stayed where I was when I saw the tyre in that condition and told the hire company to get out to me or their bike would be left where it was as it was illegal
Spank86
30-09-13, 06:34 PM
Not really my responsibility Simon. The hire company should've given me a bike with more than two weeks worth of tyre on it. I told them how many miles I do in a week. The tyre pressure should also have been checked before they gave me the bike.
In theory you should check before riding.
It may be the hire companies bike but it's your neck on the line if there is a problem and I'm sure your parents won't find the large payout much of a compensation,
Take this hypocritical advice from a man who is officially a maintenance free zone and generally checks tyre pressures by "riding feel".
a maintenance free zone
I like this description!
Fallout
30-09-13, 09:02 PM
It may be the hire companies bike but it's your neck on the line if there is a problem and I'm sure your parents won't find the large payout much of a compensation
On the contrary, I think they'd be most pleased! :mrgreen:
You should check the basics before every ride.
Think how your Mrs and your parents would feel if that tyre failed and you ended up under a truck.b
Reduce the risks keep what ever you ride and your gear at the top of the game.
Onus (not anus) is surely on both parties. I'd be miffed too if I was sent a bike with little to no life in the tyres.
Surely sending a bike out on the wear bars is beyond the serviceable life of a hire bike, not to mention the compensation culture we live in.
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Matt-EUC
30-09-13, 10:32 PM
I did check the tyre before I left, it was fine(ish). When I got to where I was going, I looked at the tyre again, realised it was shagged and rang the hire company. Who promptly sent me a recovery truck.
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