2002 Honda nt650v Deauville, ?

[craig dow]

Hi
Looking for some info , iv been offerd a 2002 Honda nt650v Deauville, cheep in very good condition , looking to get it to commute 70 miles a day for work , what do you think about this bike and would it do the job , what's it like on petrol and in all weather thanks for any info

[Mikey360]

Considered getting one before the current SV, does 60+mpg and will go forever. Common mods are extended screen and knuckle guards (mainly to stop the wind chill)

Do watch for the exhaust headers as they can rot fairly quickly and aren't cheap to replace.
Does weigh a bit though but its very easy to ride around down due ti the low seating.
Some owners complain about the suspension being too soft under braking but I remember reading about lowing the front end through the top yolk to change the geometry and improve handling. I'm sure I saw some progressive springs on fleebay as well if you want the suspension to be a bit more planted.

Also I think the post 2001 models had linked brakes? But don't quote me on that one.

One thing that put me off getting one though, is the fact it's a wonderful bike, but its exceedingly dull.

Here's a couple of links to browse through -

http://www.elsham.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/deauville/
http://www.deauvilleuk.org/forum/

[maviczap]

Probably a near perfect bike for that kind of work

[ToySoldier]

i dont have a deauville but i have a ntv 650 it has the same engine.

the engine has plenty of power to be fun if needed can cruise on the motorway easliy at speeds to see your licence gone i have gotten 230 miles out of a £20 tank.

i have not hurd of the header problem myself on the ntv's and i thought the deviles wear the same the headers are stainless as standard the problems are the collector box that rusts to high heaven but a arfter market pipe works fine to sort that.

my ntv is slightly different as it has a zx6r rear end on it lovely engine and bike but myself i am looking to upgrade to a sv very soon


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[craig dow]

Thanks for the replys , what the weight like as need to push it to get it around to my back garden to the shed I will be keeping it in ? I'm 5 ft 6 will the height of the bike be OK , only big problem is I might have to part with the triumph tt600 as don't think I can afford to keep two bikes , and think the Honda will be a better comuting bike as its all cost roads I use every day , and I am 48 so might be time to come of the sports bike , lol thanks again for your help

[Mikey360]

i have not hurd of the header problem myself on the ntv's and i thought the deviles wear the same the headers are stainless as standard the problems are the collector box that rusts to high heaven but a arfter market pipe works fine to sort that.

Bugger sorry I just realised I was thinking about the VFR750's! You're right it is the box that rusts! #-o


Thanks for the replys , what the weight like as need to push it to get it around to my back garden to the shed I will be keeping it in ? I'm 5 ft 6 will the height of the bike be OK , only big problem is I might have to part with the triumph tt600 as don't think I can afford to keep two bikes , and think the Honda will be a better comuting bike as its all cost roads I use every day , and I am 48 so might be time to come of the sports bike , lol thanks again for your help

The TT600's are 170kg dry and a seat hight of 810mm while the Deauville is 233kg dry and 814mm. I think most of the weight will be in the built in panniers and larger fairings, which in turn will give it a lower center of gravity making it easier to turn at low speeds, pushing it in your back garden might require a bit more effort than the TT600.

[embee]

I have a 2002 Deau, had it from new, now 40k miles nearly all foreign touring.

A bit lardy, weight is a bit high especially with a full tank. Easy enough to wheel about as long as it's more or less flat. Can be lowered but rear suspension isn't by link so not that easy (there is a very expensive modified top eye available). Most just have the seat lowered (Tony Archer is favourite).

Front forks respond to decent oil, most owners probably hardly ever change it. I use Silkolene PRO RSF 7.5W. Suspension is a bit floaty but suits the bike pretty well, comfort rather than sharp. Rear has a preload adjuster knob behind the right side black panel (700 has it exposed on the left side). Generally handles very securely, needs decent tyres like any bike, Avon Storms or PR2/3 are liked, I have Metz Z8 on mine.

Screens are a matter of personal taste, Honda high screen or MRA are favourites. Std screen is way too low for weather protection.

Only a couple of regular "faults". Fuel pump has points in it which burn (common with a lot of other Honda twins). Wemoto do replacement points and a very simple diode mod pretty much fixes it, or fit a Facet pump, fairly cheap either way. Reg/rec is more reliable than some but can fail. I fitted a MOSFET type.

Rear wheel splines need to be greased with high moly paste (Honda Moly60 is best stuff). Lower rear suspension bolt usually seizes in if not greased when fitting, lower needle bearing can fail with corrosion from road grime, not too expensive to replace bearing but can be a pain if rusted in. Steering head bearings are often adjusted too loose and fail, fine if preloaded and greased properly, check carefully.

Paint tends to fall off engine and sometimes wheels, fine if not left with salt on.

Engine will go on forever if serviced. 650 has 4 plugs (2 per pot), fit iridium and more or less forget. Valve clearances are by screw adjuster, a bit tedious to do (rad off) but although recommended every 8k miles in reality 20k miles is more than regular enough, I've done mine once. People leave it 30-40k quite often if not ragged.

Ideal bike for commuting. Economy expect 55-60mpg if ridden moderately.

2002 was the facelift model, linked Nissin brakes (don't suffer same issues as earlier Brembos), slightly lighter engine internals, slightly bigger panniers, slightly better headlight, slightly better generally IMO.

Downpipes were double skinned chrome mild steel, tend to eventually rust at the collector. Most fit a Motad stainless around £260 complete I think, Predator do one also.

For a nice one I'd expect up to about £2k reasonable.

[ToySoldier]

What was wrong with the erlyer brembos? I have a deauvill brembo to go onto my ntv as the ntv is single disk.

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[craig dow]

thanks very much for all your replys , great wee wright up embee , thanks again

[johnnyrod]

My father in law has a V reg one, I'd say it's good for short people, dead easy to ride, you don't notice the weight so much really although getting it onto the centre stand is a bit hard. Pannier lids are a poor fit as standard. Forks are crap but sufficient. Brakes are suprisingly good! Yes it's ideal for what you want.

[philbut]

I had one for a bit with 100k miles on it. Looked like it had been at the bottom of the Atlantic for 10 years. Ran fine once started, but eventually died when a piston lost ring. High milers can suffer with starting issues, but Irridium plugs sorted that out (probably after that long the coils / plug leads were a bit iffy). MPG was no better than my ZZR600 - about 55-60 as embee says. I commuted 110 miles a day on my ZZR600 and to be honest it was the better bike as still fun when the sun was out. Having said the the Dullsville was great in winter with a touring screen as it kept the wind blast off your chest and really made a difference to body temerature. Shaft drive is nice but TBH with a scottoiler chains are pretty much fit and forget too.

[philbut]

Found a photo of the old girl somewhere on the M40 in the snow. And look at those fuel prices!
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[embee]

What was wrong with the erlyer brembos? I have a deauvill brembo to go onto my ntv as the ntv is single disk.

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Some people preferred the Brembos, they were significantly "sharper" than the Nissin though ultimately no better braking effect. The Nissin linked brakes are fine. Some folk get through pads at an alarming rate for some reason, mine are still the originals (40k miles though getting thin now).

The relatively common issue was what was reported as "warped discs" with the Brembos. Many had them replaced under warranty. The peculiar thing however was that the Nissin system used the same discs and wheels and didn't suffer the same. I'm fairly sure it was actually a pad issue, but have no proof. Both systems work fine, and don't suffer the same rate of caliper seizing issues as the SV for example. Shoule be fine on your NTV.

Starting issues are usually a servicing thing rather than common to the model. There have been a few split carb diaphragms, but not a common thing. Chokes don't seize. Battery is usual culprit, use a high CCA version, Yuasa YTZ14-S or Motobatt work well. Failed fuel pumps can be bypassed but you don't then get the reserve in the tank (lower than carbs) so need refuelling sooner. Ignition system is generally very reliable and it doesn't cut out in the wet either! ;)

Pre and post 2002 pannier lids are NOT interchangeable, the hinges moved from external to internal and the left one is bigger. There were "big" lids available for both types to make the panniers substantially bigger for touring, now getting rare to find second-hand.

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