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muzikill
01-11-13, 10:39 PM
Anybody use the swingarm removal adapters and the front end lift?

http://www.abbastands.co.uk/product_details.asp?id=42

http://www.abbastands.co.uk/product_details.asp?id=21

Just looking for a user opinion. Thinking about getting them for a winter project. I dont want to jack up the front end using the sump anymore. I know how thin the sv crankcases are!

Bibio
01-11-13, 10:42 PM
i have the swingarm removal adaptors permanent on the bike and much batter than using the spindle kit.

i would not trust that front lift for an extended period. ok for doing it that day. if i was going to leave it for a while i would tie a rope around swingarm and arm on lift just to make sure.

muzikill
01-11-13, 11:14 PM
Yeah I was kinda thinking the method of ratcheting the swingarm to lift the front end will put a strain on the swingarm bearings and the rear shock tbh.

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Bibio
01-11-13, 11:58 PM
nope no strain on swingarm bearings as your lifting via the swingarm spindle and most defiantly no strain on shock.

i'm actually thinking of the front lift attachment for myself as it looks a good bit of kit (seen it ages ago) and less bulky than a bleedin headstock stand (they are a PITA to stow away).

i love my abba stand and its been worth every single penny i spent on it.

cb1000rsteve
02-11-13, 07:14 AM
Block of wood and a car jack under the pipes works on IL4's not sure if you can do that with the sv only having one pipe from the front of engine

muzikill
02-11-13, 07:50 AM
The front lift attachment coupled with the jack lift method (just touching) would make me feel a bit better. Im scared that lifting the weight of the bike using the engine under side will eventually cause a cracked case.

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muzikill
02-11-13, 07:54 AM
Block of wood and a car jack under the pipes works on IL4's not sure if you can do that with the sv only having one pipe from the front of engine

This is the dodgy lift method im on about. Putting the whole bikes weight on parts that arent built to take it.

Dunn-y
02-11-13, 12:25 PM
I've got the front end lift and it works well and is stable enough. Not rock solid but it does unload the suspension which is a plus.

Had my ZX9 off the ground with it for a day and seemed sturdy enough, no signs of it going to fall but if I was going to be using for an extended period of time I would probably put a block of wood or something under the front wheel just in case.

sath182
02-11-13, 01:22 PM
Just got my lift this week. If you have an S with lower fairings, you have to take the thumbscrew out of the middle piece in order to clear the plastic. Make sure you pay attention to how the strap is set up, per the instructions. Otherwise, you'll be confused why it won't to work like the video shows. It takes more pressure on the passenger seat than I expected, and that will only increase with the swing arm kit. If you are removing the swing arm, the provided strap is plenty long enough to loop it through the passenger footrest. Once up, there's plenty of clearance to do anything you need. I got mine so I can inspect/lube the headstock and rear link arm bearings this winter. I'm sure I'll find further use for it later.

Bibio
02-11-13, 01:25 PM
interesting about the thumbscrew, cheers for letting us know.

muzikill
02-11-13, 01:27 PM
Just got my lift this week. If you have an S with lower fairings, you have to take the thumbscrew out of the middle piece in order to clear the plastic. Make sure you pay attention to how the strap is set up per the instructions, or you'll be confused why you can't get it to work like in the video. It takes more pressure on the passenger seat than I expected and that will only increase with the swing arm kit. If you are removing the swing arm, the provided strap is plenty long enough to loop it through the passenger footrest. Once up, there's plenty of clearance to do anything you need. I got mine so I can inspect/lube the headstock and rear link arm bearings this winter. I'm sure I'll find further use for it later.

Exact same jobs I want to do and inspect swingarm bearings. Plus im going to do the debrix emulator and spring upgrade on the forks.

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sath182
02-11-13, 01:30 PM
interesting about the thumbscrew, cheers for letting us know.

Well, that's if you forget to slide the middle piece onto the base crossbar before fitting the stand to the bike. If you slide it on before hand, there's no problem.

The stand is wide enough that the rear section of the lifting arm will actually be outside the swing arm if it's against the upright member of the stand. You do have to slide it in toward the bike for the strap to fit properly.

Bibio
02-11-13, 01:38 PM
cool. might make up a collar for the cross bar so bracket always in the right place.

sath182
02-11-13, 01:43 PM
That might not be a bad idea. But, as long as the arms aren't loaded, the bracket will slide on the cross bar with the stand engaged. Having the collar would prevent futzing with it before using the arms.

maviczap
02-11-13, 04:33 PM
i have the swingarm removal adaptors permanent on the bike and much batter than using the spindle kit.

yep totally agree on this, plus no danger of losing the adaptor which has happened to me, as either it stuck in the swingarm spindle and fell out on the ride, or the garage gremlins have it


i'm actually thinking of the front lift attachment for myself as it looks a good bit of kit (seen it ages ago) and less bulky than a bleedin headstock stand (they are a PITA to stow away).

i love my abba stand and its been worth every single penny i spent on it.

Headstock stand is useful, but is a PITA as Bib says to stow away. Mine is kept in the works garage

Sid Squid
02-11-13, 06:32 PM
For front lift you only need a bit of 2"x2" timber. Put bike on workshop stand - preferably NWS, better than the Abba - then put timber upright in recess on front head above downpipe. Perfectly stable and will not damage anything.

shiftin_gear98
04-11-13, 10:17 AM
I finally got round to getting myself an ABBA stand last month, got the front lift too, as plan to tinker with the forks when funds alllow.

I love it, I used to borrow my inlaws paddock stand, and well nearly dropped the bike every time you lowered it!! Flippin hated that thing.

This on the other hand is really stable, the front arm is really easy to use, I keep the bracket on the shaft with a high tech perminant maker line where the bracket needs to go to line up perfectly, so no messing about making sure it's right.

Love how it's not in the way. Well worth the money. Might have to look into getting the swing arm adaptor too.

aesmith
04-11-13, 10:43 AM
Block of wood and a car jack under the pipes works on IL4's not sure if you can do that with the sv only having one pipe from the front of engine
On mine that's too far back, it starts to take weight off the paddock stand. I support the front by hanging it with a couple of ratchet straps.