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stranger12
23-12-13, 04:05 PM
Hi All,
when a tyre is punctured , is it safe to leave the screw in and ride to home or 20-30 miles while the screw is in ?

I am asking because it takes 3-4 days or maybe quicker depending on the puncture for the tyre to go flat so if I leave it there it should be safe to ride as long as going 30-50 miles . would that cause the tyre to burst?

or generally would repairing the tyre from inside ( professionally ) cause the tyre to burst while riding ? what about track days with 2-3 punctures in the tyre which have been fixed from the inside .

Thanks

atassiedevil
23-12-13, 04:25 PM
I'd never have more than one repair to a performance tyre.

If you don't have a repair kit, then ride it home, get the screw out, get it repaired.

The longer it is in there, the more damage it will do, and it WILL work lose eventually. You don't want a rapid deflation at speed under any circumstances.

Worth having a repair kit with you too, they're cheap enough on ebay now. £12 ish for one with a number of inflator cannisters.

If a tyre is professionally repaired, it'll be as good as it can be. Plug type repairs are quite strong.

Get it fixed ASAP is the best, safest and in my opinion, the only choice.

jambo
23-12-13, 04:30 PM
There are a few questions here:

1) The longer you ride with a pit of debris in the tyre the more opportunity for it to move about and damage the carcass, making a professional repair less likely to be possible.
2) A tyre is very unlikely to burst, but a screw or nail or similar can come out as the smallest part is generally inside the tyre. It went it, it could come out (though this isn't always very likely). You may be thinking of tyres with inner tubes such as small motorbike and bicycle tyres. Most bikes including the SV use radial tubeless tyres which are closer in construction to a car tyre. Bursting is very unlikely.
3) If you remove the debris and patch the tyre with a plug you will stop doing any more damage than has already been done. As per point 1 this gives you the best chance of saving the expense of a new tyre.
4) A professional tyre repair involves someone who knows about tyres inspecting it, cleaning the hole and area up and patching it from the inside if safe to do so. Sometimes you will be told this isn't possible, generally there's a good reason for this (search on here about tyre repair, some places just refuse to repair bike tyres due to a slightly over-zealous application of BS guidelines). A professional repair should not be able to come out, a worst-case scenario would be a slow leak, and this has not ever happened to me on the tyres I've had fixed.
5) I've done plenty of track days on a professionally repaired tyre. Note this is very different from a repair you can do at the road side. Again, talk to the tyre centre, an honest one will tell you what the confidence level you should have after a repair is made.

Jambo

suzukigt380paul
23-12-13, 04:47 PM
you are best to be safe rather then let down on the side of the road,but when it comes down to tyres with screws/nails or other debris in them, then it is very likely that almost all tyres have such items in them by the time you replace them with out nowing they are there untill you look inside the discarded tyre,the bigger items that get into tyre are easy to see,the smaller ones are not that easy to find,as to repairing high performance tyres,most places wont do them as it is not safe or recomended,but if the tyre is on a sv or similar the it may be repairable

stranger12
06-01-14, 12:15 PM
thank you jambo and suzukigt380paul. jambo a very long and detailed discussion which is much appreciated.

I did ride home with the screw in and it was very large nail and not a screw , almost as large if not bigger than the pic below.

after that I pulled it out and repaired it using the puncture repair kit so could use it for 1/2 days until I got my new tyre "Dunlop roadsmart II".
The reason for change was, I had the tyre repaired 3 time ( all from inside professionally done) and two of the repairs were very close to each other so the patch inside did overlap the other one .
this last puncture (4th) was again very close to the other 2 making it 3 puncture in one area which in my view is very unsafe so just left it all together.


It is a lesson learned to have all I need with me to quickly repair it and carry on until I can get it probessionally done .

Do you think normal puncture repair (from outside) would be ok for city driving of up to 50-70 miles?





http://static3.depositphotos.com/1004550/187/i/950/depositphotos_1875102-Nail.jpg

jambo
06-01-14, 03:45 PM
I think most emergency kits say they are suggested for ~50 miles @50mph or so.

I do know of a number of incidents where people have gone significantly faster for a whole lot longer, I've certainly put in a repair a fair way from home.

Jambo

ZER0
06-01-14, 09:32 PM
Hi guys,

Interesting thread. I just picked up my SV yesterday, and this is something I just haven't thought about!

Which 'roadside repair' kits do you guys use/recommend?
Can they fit under the rear seat cowl along with a disc lock?

Also, in another thread, I saw someone mention using the tool kit box, under the seat, as storage. Do people tend to leave the tool kits at home, or do most people keep them on the bike?

DJ123
06-01-14, 10:31 PM
I don't carry a puncture repair kit. I generally have slime in the tyres & roadside recovery.
Tool wise, only carry the basics, you don't need anything substantial. The right size Allen key for removing body panels, an adjustable spanner, cable ties, electrical tape, cutters/pliers.

NTECUK
07-01-14, 08:34 AM
If you are using a puncture prevention like slime you need to inspect the tyre closely.
If you missed a nail that's rubbing inside the tyre it has a posability to cut the side wall

NTECUK
07-01-14, 08:38 AM
Hi guys,

Interesting thread. I just picked up my SV yesterday, and this is something I just haven't thought about!

Which 'roadside repair' kits do you guys use/recommend?
Can they fit under the rear seat cowl along with a disc lock?


Also, in another thread, I saw someone mention using the tool kit box, under the seat, as storage. Do people tend to leave the tool kits at home, or do most people keep them on the bike?
There's the kits that use a plug which is inserted from the outside of the tyre
With this your usual have a few small gass canisters to re inflate the tyre
Then you can get home and have it checked out properly