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Ninthbike
08-02-14, 12:11 AM
I am a huge believer in the expression "what goes around, comes around" and a couple of weeks ago I had another experience that reinforced this. I was in my car and was seriously cut up by a mpv leaving the A40 at Hanger Lane, so much so that I had to brake hard enough for the ABS to work in order to prevent him colliding with my front wing. I threw lots and lots of F's at him and managed to get alongside in the traffic to add further comment. He acted as if he were wearing blinkers and completely ignored me. Further along the North Circular Road, he drove like a complete pr*ck, cutting up several other drivers and undertaking in an apparent attempt to get away from me. Further up the road he was in the outside lane stuck behind cars turning right at traffic lights, As I passed on his nearside (the lane I was in was moving faster) he pulled out from behind the car next to me, undertook it and pulled back out to the outside lane alongside me. He overtook me and as he was passing a Mercedes in front of me, it's driver decided to change lanes without looking or signalling, ramming his door mirror into the side of the MPV. As everything slowed down and both headed for the side of the road, I drifted past waving and laughing my ass off. Pure Karma!http://www.a5oc.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif Anyone else a believer?
BoltonSte
08-02-14, 12:35 AM
In this respect, not sure about kama, but more a lack of skill...car or bike. If you don't plan you get bitten.
but yeah, serves them right.
In the sense I don't f people over than don't deserve it.
Like, I would and have given iphones ect back to people when I have seen them drop them, or leave them on things at work, 8 years ago id have had it switched off in my pocket faster than you can say the word siri.
Still, It could be all a load of rubbish, maybe life would be the same either way, but I feel good doing the right thing, money is just an unfortunate necessity.
In this respect, not sure about kama, but more a lack of skill...car or bike. If you don't plan you get bitten.
but yeah, serves them right.
What he said. That's idiocy.
BanannaMan
08-02-14, 06:02 AM
As everything slowed down and both headed for the side of the road, I drifted past waving and laughing my ass off.
:smt018
If you truely believe in karma, was this a good idea?
Carefull it may come back to bite you!
;)
Glad he got what he deserved, there is a certain pleasure that comes from seeing some ***** getting his due.
Karma only seems to work for bad.
If you do something bad to someone else, bad things happen to you.
However if you do good things for others, you seem no less likely for good things to come your way.
Or is that because I'm surrounded by americans?
Ninthbike
08-02-14, 07:55 AM
:smt018
If you truely believe in karma, was this a good idea?
Carefull it may come back to bite you!
;)
Glad he got what he deserved, there is a certain pleasure that comes from seeing some ***** getting his due.
Karma only seems to work for bad.
If you do something bad to someone else, bad things happen to you.
However if you do good things for others, you seem no less likely for good things to come your way.
Or is that because I'm surrounded by americans?
LOL!!!!!
Biker Biggles
08-02-14, 08:07 AM
Karma?
I prefere Madras but agree that anything stronger can come back and bite your &rse the next day.
Citizen
08-02-14, 08:43 AM
I do genuinly believe in Karma, I don`t monitor the good for good etc but I do just treat others the way I want to be treated etc.
Doesn`t always work, there are knobs everywhere and it sounds like you almost bumped into one!!
Good work on the wave and ride off, bet they were fuming :cool:
Buddhsim itself is the only religion I could ever lean towards, except the rincarnation bit.
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Fallout
08-02-14, 09:07 AM
No I don't believe in Karma. It's as laughable as pixies and pink unicorns. What you're observing is simply the sideaffects of our behaviourial patterns. Bad things happen to bad people because they bring bad situations upon themselves by provoking people and entering bad environments etc. Also it's statistical certainty these things will happen. People like to link conincidences and assign special meaning to them, but they completely ignore the 99% of events when a noticeable related event does not happen. Basically reality is not writing cheques but your illogical brain is still trying to cash them. :p
Matt-EUC
08-02-14, 09:56 AM
Lovely analogy as always fallout.
I don't so much believe in "what goes around comes around." I do how however still have my mothers words ringing in my ears saying "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"
Red ones
08-02-14, 10:33 AM
Confirmation theory. You're more likely to notice things you believe in and to ignore things that disprove it.
Karma is when bad things happen to bad people. When good things happen to bad people it's luck , not a disproof.
No I don't believe in Karma. It's as laughable as pixies and pink unicorns.
Can I just say the pixies who were mucking out the unicorns spied this comment on my phone and have flown of in disgust.
ClunkintheUK
08-02-14, 10:52 AM
I know what fallout is saying is true, bad people bring out bad reactions in other people etc. But somehow I do still believe in karma. I know it is selective memory/people's natural reactions but when I get angry at the beginning of my commute and start riding like at ar5e, I tend to get home a lot slower, then if I turn the other cheek and go with the flow.
To quote my favourite comic "Think better of people, they may just surprise you"
Matt-EUC
08-02-14, 10:53 AM
Hem hem. In the words of Rowan Atkinson, "see the little goblin, see his little feet, and his little nosey-wose, isn't the goblin sweet."
Specialone
08-02-14, 02:38 PM
I believe in the theory of karma but not it's spiritual meaning, I like to treat people how I want to be treated, I help others, I try not to make enemies etc etc, hopefully I'll get some good vibes coming my way one day.
DJFridge
08-02-14, 10:05 PM
Fallout's explanation is rather good - obviously watches the same docs and reads the same stuff as I do! I'm completely non religious and try to live by the "Do as you would be done by" method. Actually I believe that if religious people remembered that that was at the base of every religion before bigotry and misogyny took hold, the world would be a more peaceful place, but that is probably for another thread at another time.
My other favourite version of the same theory is that if you **** on people on your way up, they'll do the same for you on your way back down.
Good things happen to bad people.
Bad things happen to good people, a lot.
So what's all this karma stuff then?
Ninthbike
08-02-14, 11:13 PM
Good fun this! I love seeing diversity of opinion. I think I'll try to start another debate.
Matt-EUC
08-02-14, 11:15 PM
Good things happen to bad people.
Bad things happen to good people, a lot.
So what's all this karma stuff then?
That can be condensed down a lot.
"Things happen to people"
There we go. Simpler and far more accurate.
Specialone
09-02-14, 07:44 AM
Good things happen to bad people.
Bad things happen to good people, a lot.
So what's all this karma stuff then?
The 'bad' stuff that happens to 'good' people, is it as bad as some really bad stuff that happens to some people? If not, you could argue karma played a part in that.
When I'm going through a down period or moment, I have to remind myself how lucky I am and even my bad moments are still better than some people's good moments.
Just a thought...
Hmmm, it would appear that some opinions of Karma are based on bad and good..... it is neither. Karma merely keeps the balance.
The 'bad' stuff that happens to 'good' people, is it as bad as some really bad stuff that happens to some people? If not, you could argue karma played a part in that.
When I'm going through a down period or moment, I have to remind myself how lucky I am and even my bad moments are still better than some people's good moments.
I was referring to the worst type of bad. Where's the karma in a child who is kidnapped/murdered or develops a terminal illness? Or one of millions of innocent families torn by war?
In our sheltered lives, some people who believe in karma see it as things as pathetic as 'I was courteous whilst driving so I had a good day at work'. Well that's laughable in a world where really bad things happen.
Hmmm, it would appear that some opinions of Karma are based on bad and good..... it is neither. Karma merely keeps the balance.
The balance of what exactly? Good and bad things happening? I don't think they're very balanced in this world of ours.
Matt-EUC
09-02-14, 05:48 PM
The balance of what exactly? Good and bad things happening? I don't think they're very balanced in this world of ours.
Good and bad are simply a matter of perspective.
Every time I would say "it's not fair" my parents would say "life's not fair" and it's pretty accurate.
Life can suck, tough sh!t.
The 'bad' stuff that happens to 'good' people, is it as bad as some really bad stuff that happens to some people? If not, you could argue karma played a part in that.
When I'm going through a down period or moment, I have to remind myself how lucky I am and even my bad moments are still better than some people's good moments.
Just a thought...
Word.
Every time I would say "it's not fair" my parents would say "life's not fair" and it's pretty accurate.
Life can suck, tough sh!t.
Exactly. Why I don't believe in karma.
CharleyFarley
09-02-14, 05:55 PM
When I'm going through a down period or moment, I have to remind myself how lucky I am and even my bad moments are still better than some people's good moments.
Exactly.............
"Gas it w###a".........
I don't know nearly enough about Karma to comment on it.
However, if you go through life trying to screw over as many people as possible, you can't be surprised when help is tricky to find when you need it.
I try to help people out where it's feasible to do so, I'm no saint and have my own stuff to get on with, but generally if you help people out, then they tend to turn up when you really are in a hole.
In terms of the OP things are rather simpler. If you drive with no margin for error, assuming everyone else will avoid you while you power through every possible gap, no matter how tenuous, you are taking a lot of chances. We can't get away with this for ever.
Jambo
Specialone
10-02-14, 06:37 PM
After a crappy day, I'm not sure about this karma stuff...
Ninthbike
24-02-14, 11:33 PM
I was referring to the worst type of bad. Where's the karma in a child who is kidnapped/murdered or develops a terminal illness? Or one of millions of innocent families torn by war?
In our sheltered lives, some people who believe in karma see it as things as pathetic as 'I was courteous whilst driving so I had a good day at work'. Well that's laughable in a world where really bad things happen.
The balance of what exactly? Good and bad things happening? I don't think they're very balanced in this world of ours.
Blimey, you're a cheerful soul!
Blimey, you're a cheerful soul!
In my defence, I think I posted that on a Sunday.
Ninthbike
28-02-14, 10:38 PM
In my defence, I think I posted that on a Sunday.
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