NBR - Air Bag Light - MOT

[PuggledPrune]

I know this isn't a great idea but as a temporary measure untill I have enough to buy a new car....

Airbag light stays on after the engine has started....Will I get away with taking the bulb out to get through it's MOT??

[NTECUK]

when the tester prints of the check sheet it will detail how the SRS and ABS light should operate.
So if they don't read it you might get it past them .
Then as long as its not QC'ed your get a pass,
Later you can appeal the test and get them in trouble

[Wideboy]

I've done it before on on an old car with the engine management light when I removed the egr

[Littlepeahead]

No you won't - new legislation. I got away with the light being on the last couple of years but not this year. Cost me £600 to get the sensor fixed. I asked what if I'd taken the bulb out and they said the computer would have shown a bulb removed and still told them the sensor was faulty so in the event of an accident the air bag would not have deployed.

[Wideboy]

I would imagine they'd look to see if it lights up when the ignition is switched on as most cars do a bulb test on ignition then the lights go out. Fail it if the lights don't come on the ask permission to plug in the diagnostics and charge you for it. I've never seen them plug a car into a computer for an mot (I'm no mot tester though so thats only based on my personal experience)

[atassiedevil]

Bottom line it's a safety feature they DO test, and which should be fixed.
It's usually either something like the passenger seat mat failed, a bad connector, pretensioner not working.
Get the codes read and get it fixed. Could potentially save your life in an accident. Which car is it btw?

[PuggledPrune]

Thanks for the replies folks. Its a bucket of a V reg Peugeot 306. It's only meant to do me a few months till my financial situation improves...

[NTECUK]

I've never seen them plug a car into a computer for an mot (I'm no mot tester though so thats only based on my personal experience)
Not yet we don't
We will plug a tester into the Euro spec 13 pin tow socket if you have one at the time of the test

[sputnik]

No idea about the MOT fail but I'd check all the connections are good around the under seat area if there is a cluster of wires down there. Disconnect and reconnect them all.

I used to have a recurring problem with a Nissan where moving the driver seat backwards and forwards would, over time, loosen a connector triggering a massive red flashing display screen error message. It was always cured by a quick fiddle with the connectors under the seat, followed by an extraordinarily elaborate series of key turns to clear the error message from the system. Googling the problem a) found the cure and b) found plenty of people who had been stung for a fortune for work on tensioners that had nothing wrong with them and various other redundant remedial work! I think you may find 'a few' google hits for the problem on your car! Not sure whether you might also need to clear the error from the system once fixed - maybe a battery disconnect and wait 10 minutes job?

[Littlepeahead]

I do trust the guys at my garage not to rip me off if there is a quick cheap solution they will use it and I'd got away with it for a few years but basically my fault meant the airbag would not go off in a collision so that meant an MOT fail. To get a pass I had to get the sensor fixed which was expensive. They explained that the reason it failed this year but passed last year was our lovely European laws have changed.

The tester also said he could have failed it because the secret confectionery compartment this year contained Sour Patch Kids which he doesn't like but no Chupa Chups which he does. But I'm not sure I believe him.

[sputnik]

I do trust the guys at my garage not to rip me off if there is a quick cheap solution they will use it and I'd got away with it for a few years but basically my fault meant the airbag would not go off in a collision so that meant an MOT fail. To get a pass I had to get the sensor fixed which was expensive. They explained that the reason it failed this year but passed last year was our lovely European laws have changed.

The tester also said he could have failed it because the secret confectionery compartment this year contained Sour Patch Kids which he doesn't like but no Chupa Chups which he does. But I'm not sure I believe him.


Ha, he is right about the MOT change, but so, so wrong about the Sour Patch Kids!

[thefallenangel]

Excuse me mr mot tester, but does the contents of the ashtray comply with the mot testing regulations?

A friend of mines favourite saying

[PuggledPrune]

No idea about the MOT fail but I'd check all the connections are good around the under seat area if there is a cluster of wires down there. Disconnect and reconnect them all.

I used to have a recurring problem with a Nissan where moving the driver seat backwards and forwards would, over time, loosen a connector triggering a massive red flashing display screen error message. It was always cured by a quick fiddle with the connectors under the seat, followed by an extraordinarily elaborate series of key turns to clear the error message from the system. Googling the problem a) found the cure and b) found plenty of people who had been stung for a fortune for work on tensioners that had nothing wrong with them and various other redundant remedial work! I think you may find 'a few' google hits for the problem on your car! Not sure whether you might also need to clear the error from the system once fixed - maybe a battery disconnect and wait 10 minutes job?

Cheers, quite fond of a quick fiddle.....

Found a wee guide on google as it seems to be dead common with this car. Will have a play this afternoon. Think they say to disconnect the battery before you do anything anyway. Don't want the airbags going off in my face!

[PuggledPrune]

Thanks again folks. Thankfully it was just a dodgy connection under the seats. Apparently they were recalled in 2000 but obviously this one wasn't done.

[Sir Trev]

The LPG system on my Mundaneo causes the engine management light to pop up all the time. I bought a cheapo code reader from EBay and just reset it before each MoT now. All the local taxis are LPG-converted Prius things and the garage that maintains them is now my LPG service agent - they told me all their cars suffer the same problem and not to worry about it. They laughed when I told them about my code reader an said "just bring it to us next year".

[NTECUK]

Cheap Code readers for the engine management system are unable to communicate with the srs

[yorkie_chris]

No you won't - new legislation.

Why will that stop it getting through if he takes the bulb out?

[NTECUK]

Because the srs does a self test on the bulb as well as the rest of the system.

[yorkie_chris]

So you need to paint the bulb black instead of removing? :-P

[NTECUK]

If it has air bags and they are easy to spot or pre tensioners then you check out the system.
One of the checks is the warning. Or a flag on say a GM seat belt stalk.
If it doesn't go through the self check of putting the light on then off it indicates a fult.
Be no use to have a system that didn't check out its warning.
Not saying that the driver's going to notice it's not come on as 90%of people don't know what the lights and dials mean

[21QUEST]

Will a tester be fooled by this? ;)

http://306oc.co.uk/forum/thread-12557.html

[NTECUK]

All the tester is looking for is a srs lamp check to indicate that the system is working.
He won't disassemble the car to see what's hidden away.

[atassiedevil]

That will work, they just look for the presence of the lamp going on and off. The amount of work you're putting into doing that though, you could get your codes read and fix the original fault.

[21QUEST]

Thanks NTECUK

That will work, they just look for the presence of the lamp going on and off. The amount of work you're putting into doing that though, you could get your codes read and fix the original fault.

atassiedevil genuinely laughed out loud.
Too much work for me and just reading it, hurt my brain a bit. Rather buy PP2000 and then sell it on when done that go through all that.

I just found it whilst doing a search. It's for my Sis's car. Done all the usual checking or wires etc and indeed, it's getting booked in to have the fault code read.

Reading the fault codes, should atleast point you to the correct wires/connector to wiggle :D (?)