Marquez qualifying

[cb1000rsteve]

Just watched the moto gp qualifying and Marquez was unbelievable on his honda. Fastest laps whilst tucking the front stoppie'ing over hills, and basically enjoying himself with near death experiences. Rossi is a good smooth rider but this kid is something else!! Fast out of control (to watch) but lightening quick

history in the making.....

[carelesschucca]

Boy is a bit special. Its great to watch.

[Redmist]

He was phenomenal from day one AND just keeps getting better and better!!
Most of the reason I had to get BTSports!

[The Idle Biker]

Is it conceivable that he could win every race. If he stays uninjured and the bike stays as reliable as it is, I think it's possible.

[Specialone]

He's reignited my interest in motogp, Lorenzo winning every race was getting boring, this lad is exciting.

[Redmist]

He's reignited my interest in motogp, Lorenzo winning every race was getting boring, this lad is exciting.

Exactly, even if he does win every race, they'll all be worth watching to see him do it, stoppies, sideways, using his knee as the front wheel!

Did anyone else start cringing at Julian and Keith having little arguments about crap yesterday?

[haggis]

He is constantly beyond the limit, it's amazing but you're constantly thinking it's only a matter of time before it bites back hard. The Honda is definitely the machine to have just now, which helps him stay in front of the pack.

But he's always been uber-gifted. I think it was Sepang 2012 where he won from the back of the grid? On a moto3, where power outputs are near equal across the field and it was his pure skill that got him the win. He pushed everywhere every lap. Been glued to his performances ever since.

[EssexDave]

Haggis are you referring to the Moto 2 Valencia race where it was damp and he was demoted for a dodgy overtake in practice to the back of the grid, and managed to get into second before closing down what was about a six second gap to take the victory?

[haggis]

That's the one. Yes, moto2 not 3. Thanks for the correction Dave.

[carelesschucca]

He did it in 125's too. He crashed on the out lap after the race had been stopped. His team did the amazing job of fixing the bike and getting him out agai started from the back and won in a 9 lap race...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2R-Aq_4ejH0

still think he'd have been in MotoGP a year earlier if he hadn't had the crash at Sepang when the marshal didn't put flags out for the one wet section. But it was probably for the best as he was wildly erratic and was still too young for the big bikes.

[Matt-EUC]

Don't remember where I heard it but someone has said, the only person who can beat Marquez, is Marquez. By that I mean him pushing too hard and throwing it down the track.

[Amadeus]

It doesn't seem to be a new breed of rider, he's rather special.

[Matt-EUC]

I like him because he's not an arrogant ****. He's quite humble even when he has an astonishing win. He's confident and mental with his riding and it works.

[Amadeus]

Yes, he just laughs a lot - the new Rossi in terms of ability and outlook. Glad I can watch him on bt sports now.

[cb1000rsteve]

He ain't the new Rossi. He's better. Just Marquez ...

The thing I like about his style is the fact u know he doesn't have any plans for Monday!!!

[Ninthbike]

I'm having trouble with BT sport. Error VC018. Anyone know a fix?

[Redmist]

I'm having trouble with BT sport. Error VC018. Anyone know a fix?

Its a bt issue, everyones is getting it:
https://btbusiness.custhelp.com/app/service_status_consumer/ss_cat/2468,2640

So in the meantime:
http://cricfree.tv/bt-sport-2.php

[dkid]

I've got no problems with my BT sports. I'm watching live now. What's the issue?

[Redmist]

Mine working again too, this forum kicked off big style about half five: (Think a server went down OR they just can't cope with the traffic!)
https://community.bt.com/t5/Watching-BT-Sport-via-the-App-or/VC018-Why-Is-It-Suddenly-Appearing/td-p/1232283/page/5

[Stenno]

Was good to hear Parrish again! I can't stand Ryder.


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[carelesschucca]

You'll grow to like Ryder. The guys a bike brain. Took me a wee while to get used to him when I first started watch Eurosport.

Still struggling with Huewen or how ever you spell his name. don't actually know how many hours of bikes I've watched this weekend. So gutted for Kev in WSS. Cluzel doing what Cluzel does best making a tit of it.

back to Marquez though, do you think he filled his knickers on that last turn or what?

[Redmist]

Been watching BTSport online, no issues at all until now, still working - just, I guess everyone logging on to watch the main event, down go the servers. Cheers BT.

[Amadeus]

Marc on pole?

[Redmist]

without a spoiler alert - certainly looking that way!

[Nutsinatin]

I think the only way to stop him is for someone to inform him of the laws of physics, currently he seems to be unaware that they are supposed to apply to him!

[Amadeus]

Anyone know the maximum number of races won by a single person in a season?

[CharleyFarley]

18............Marc Marquez 2014


"Gas it w###a".........

[Matt-EUC]

Mick Doohan with 12 wins.

[The Basket]

I would class Marquez as a rider who could be the best ever.
The Stoners and the Pedrosas and Lorenzos were never the full package.
Even Rossi was a poor qualifier.
Marqeuez has it all and he is lucky as well.
However....luck runs out....and I think Pedrosa could be the champ as long as he stays upright.

[Amadeus]

What was Stonor's weakness?

Surprised about your view of Pedrosa - can't see him beating Lorenzo.

Despite it being rather processional I hope Marquez does beat the record for most wins in a season - i do admire (and have sympathy for) a rider who is so much better than the others around him. What's he supposed to do?

[The Basket]

Stoners weakness....Laguna Seca 2008.
He was owned by Rossi that day. And I dont think he ever recovered.

[CharleyFarley]

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Even Rossi was a poor qualifier.


Marqeuez has it all and he is lucky as well.

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Rossi: Ya dont get points/championships in qualifying!!
Marquez: The more he practices (ie more time on the bike) the "luckier" he'll get!!
Its early days but the way Marc is going so far on a Moto GP bike it would take a brave person (gob****e) to say he's not gonna be one of the best/best ever 'racer'.........tho it'll always be an argumentative point!!!!


"Gas it w###a".........

[The Basket]

I think Marquez is brilliant. He went to Laguna Seca and won his first time.
Laguna is supposed to be impossible for a noob.
Marquez is lucky because he bounces whereas Pedrosa goes crunch.
I agree qualifying is not winning races but Rossi always gave himself plenty to do by having to race through traffic. Marquez on pole has it much easier.

[Red Herring]

Despite it being rather processional I hope Marquez does beat the record for most wins in a season - i do admire (and have sympathy for) a rider who is so much better than the others around him. What's he supposed to do?

Exactly what he is doing!

Personally I find it mildly irritating that some little squirt can come along and dominate in what is supposed to be the pinnacle of a particular sport, and even worse that he is Spanish..... however from an entertainment point of view I can't remember anybody being so much fun to watch. Part of me hopes he just keeps on doing what he is doing, the other bit hopes it bites him back and teaches him some respect....

[Amadeus]

Stoners weakness....Laguna Seca 2008.
He was owned by Rossi that day. And I dont think he ever recovered.

Ah yeah, think you're right. That was a remarkable race.

[Amadeus]

Exactly what he is doing!

Personally I find it mildly irritating that some little squirt can come along and dominate in what is supposed to be the pinnacle of a particular sport, and even worse that he is Spanish..... however from an entertainment point of view I can't remember anybody being so much fun to watch. Part of me hopes he just keeps on doing what he is doing, the other bit hopes it bites him back and teaches him some respect....

Quite why he didn't learn to slow down after crashing at 170mph is beyond me. I suspect he will only be beaten by himself when he loses his self confidence.
Remember Tyson in the 80's? Another unbeatable.

Would have been great to see him battle with simoncelli.

[The Basket]

Little squirt?
Marquez is the best because he is the best.
Rossi threw away 2 years of his life at Ducati.
And Stoner gave up. I always rated Dovisioso but he never got the bike he deserved and he is on a loser at Ducati.
Simoncelli would see Marquez race off into the distance.
Simoncelli was a great racer but his results in MotoGP were at best average.

Maybe if Rossi was 10 years younger or Stoner was a better racer or even Simoncelli had lived then maybe Marquez would be runner up.

[Red Herring]

Little squirt?


I use the term slightly affectionately. He is young, relatively inexperienced in terms of Moto GP (I don't doubt the quality of his apprenticeship and just how long he spent at it) and it just seems wrong that he can turn up and dominate like he is. There is no questioning his ability and talent, or the quality of his machinery, and I certainly won't argue that he is the best out there at the moment. Doesn't make it right though....!!!!

[Matt-EUC]

No surprise about the finish. But it was very exciting to watch.

[The Basket]

Marquez is fast because he doesnt know where the stop button is.
Crazy SOB.
He has the strengths of his rivals with none of thier weaknesses.
He could totally dominate the sport.

His win or bin mentality is totally alien to Pedrosa or Lorenzo. Can you Imagine someone like Marquez behind you trying to overtake you knowing full well that he gonna try it even if it goes wrong?

[CharleyFarley]

His win or bin mentality is totally alien to Pedrosa or Lorenzo. Can you Imagine someone like Marquez behind you trying to overtake you knowing full well that he gonna try it even if it goes wrong?

I dont think the 'win it or bin it' bit comes into Marquez' race!!!! Moto GP races so far........only twice has he not podiumed, 1 of those a black flag!!!!! 15 crashes last season (??)........all in practice/qual when he 'finds the limits' by going beyond the limit when there's no chance of 'throwing away' 25/20/18 points.......race 'safe' fa win/podium!!!
Also.........in Argentina he was never "behind Lorenzo trying to overtake"......... he followed him for 2/3rds of the race, easily slip passed when he chose to......n pulled out 3/4sec in half a lap........
No 'win it or bin it' involved HOWEVER.........Lorenzo's 'win it or bin it ' record!!!!!!!! 1st 2 seasons in Moto GP????
I think us bike race fans should feel 'privileged' to have been there to see an undoubted 'great' in Rossi AND possibly an even greater 'talent' in Marc Marquez................



"Gas it w###a".........

[The Basket]

Marquez doesnt have to bin to win. He is winning very nicely.
But historically Marquez is a dogfighter. Remember the pass at Laguna on Rossi.
On the outside of Rossi going into the corkscrew. Thats crazy.
Rossi and Pedrosa got held up and messed up in Argentina so Marquez only had Lorenzo to beat. And he beat him good.

[carelesschucca]

I'd love to know how much effort Marquez put in over the full race. It looked to me if he was cruising when he was catching up with Lorenzo. He didn't make the move to go past till his board told him that Dani was starting to catch up.

I can't wait to see some closer racing this season. Thank the lord for moto3.

[NTECUK]

No surprise about the finish. But it was very exciting to watch.
Second that

[Amadeus]

I can't wait to see some closer racing this season. Thank the lord for moto3.

I'd agree that the majority of the race wasn't exciting but I was still hooked as he seemed to be head and shoulders above everyone else. As you said, it looked like he was cruising, at one point he was sitting up rather than head down, quite some way before a corner.

[The Basket]

I agree. The way Marquez dealt with Lorenzo was embarrassing.
Rossi used to do that in his best days.
I follow you
I overtake you.
I gap you.
And I am not even trying.
And Lorenzo is good..

[The Basket]

4:races
4 poles
4 wins.
100% perfect
Best in the world.

[carelesschucca]

At the moment yes.

Must have been demoralising for the others on Saturday afternoon. They'd just spent the practice sessions being quicker and thinking they had a chance then the happy puppy comes out in qualifying and whips them on both of his bikes... it must have been a WTF moment for them.

Does leave the question of whether he was sandbagging in practice and if he was I don't wanna play poker with him either.

[andrewsmith]

Seeing I'm hardly watching the GP this year (can think of about 100 litres of reasons :mrgreen:). Marquez is on the best bike on the grid (HRC plough in about double what Yamaha and Ducati do) and the bike works for him.

To put my point into context, Stoner won on what proved to be a totally unrideable Ducati and went for the 100% on the 800 honda

[Amadeus]

I think he's already beaten Pedrosa and Lorenzo psychologically. Not sure about Rossi but I think he's probably stronger in that regard.

Will be interesting to see what happens with contracts.

[carelesschucca]

Seeing I'm hardly watching the GP this year (can think of about 100 litres of reasons :mrgreen:). Marquez is on the best bike on the grid (HRC plough in about double what Yamaha and Ducati do) and the bike works for him.

He's spanking Pedrosa too so it's not just the bike. But Marquez rides the Honda in a totally different way to Dani. Then again he rides differently to everyone else on the grid...

I'm glad hes beating Lorenzo I just can't warm to the guy, Dani however, she's growing on me, specially when Rossi is taking photos of him :D. I'll try and find the picture and post it.

[Amadeus]

I don't really like Lorenzo either but I warmed to him after Simoncelli's death when he criticised his dad over comments he'd made.
Wasn't very gracious after clash with Marquez last year tho.

[carelesschucca]

http://instagram.com/p/nk4XOySlSx/

Photo found... Look folks Dani does smile.

[The Basket]

I would smile with 2 birds in my arms.

Marquez rides like Stoner did. Controlled crash.

Jerez was a masterclass for Marquez and Pedrosa and Rossi go well there. so to stuff em like Marquez did is something special.

I wouldn't write off anyone yet. Plenty of races And a few wet races to come.

Rossi is back to his best and Pedrosa has 4 podiums. So in my view Marquez is brilliant but one fall and game wide open.